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Really it should be one of the 60 middle relievers they brought in this off season they grind out, but you know.

Forget it, he's rolling.

Like you are supplying on this project? The only "targeting" going on is you attacking everyone who might be excited about a South Loop location.

There are a ton of assumptions baked in here.

Literally all of baseball is doing this.

I know what he meant....

If the assumption is that the people who are creating this data are too stupid to understand it, that's a place I can't go.

Pretty much anything between the river to the north, 18th to the south, the lake to the east and the Ryan/Kennedy to the west was within my range depending on what my day looked like. A mile out, and a mile back is like a half hour walk at a decent pace. It wasn't the only place I went, but I definitely went.

Right, because you jumping into this thread to question my Chicago resume wasn't you trying to engage in oneupspman ship. You dropping your pissy little laugh reacts when someone disagrees with you isn't oneupsmanship, and definitely not a joke. Anytime you want to get back to facts, feel free.

Aw, glad to see you care.

Being baseball Luddites is exactly what got the White Sox into this mess.

Keeping what you make yourself is unfair?

Exactly. He made a lame attempt to dunk on me, got his s%*# thrown into the fifth row, and ran back to the land of passive aggressive laugh reactions where he likes to hide after he gets his lunch eaten.

Absolutely. Lunch breaks I walked on most any day that wasn't snowy. Also that's the area where south loop parking was cheapest. But I am glad to see you failed your own test on knowing the 78.

I worked in the financial district for 15 years, and walked that area all of the time. You?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/43904999/mlb-2025-stock-watch-ranking-spring-training-offseason-expectation-reality

Amazon cut back HUGE on their building projects all at once. They had plans to build tons of warehouses all over the country. In my hometown alone they had paid to move a parcel of land from county to city, change zoning, acquire land, and such. Then they decided to end almost all of that all at once. This was in the same time frame and a part of the same cuts. In fact Amazon went from getting to headquarters funded in both DC and NYC, to deciding only to do one in DC. When it comes to higher ed, funding has come WAY down since COVID, and might be disappearing entirely, or at the very least, getting cut way back if the current President gets his way. In my lifetime there has been probably a half of a dozen different "world's tallest building" projects which were supposed to happen in Chicago, including one out by LSD which had a gigantic hole put into the ground, and then the funding just died and it stayed exactly that, a gigantic hole in the ground. Block 37 sat empty for decades, despite a million different proposals and projects getting off to various amounts of progress. There were dozens of proposals over the years for new Bears and/or White Sox stadiums, both in the last few years, but mainly over the previous decades in their crumbling old stadiums. I know you self-servingly want to accuse all of the people here as being involved in some vast conspiracy, in which Jerry as some moronic dupe in real estate will never cease to amuse me, but business conditions change major projects all of the time. The same dollars that brought Boeing from Seattle to Chicago, are about to build them a whole new headquarters in Denver. If you pay even a minimal amount attention to this kind of stuff over the course of time, this isn't a huge surprise.

These two sentences next to each other are wild. "Fact", but numbers pulled firmly out of no where.

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That's almost better. You almost have to be below the hitting speed, vs just being on the low end of it.

Since speaking bluntly isn't really working, I just deleted the crap out of this thread. If people want ACTUAL quality discussions, a great place to start would be the topic at hand, and not dragging crap from one thread to the next.

I am also just going to say that will to win could well have been crushed by the moves made by the Sox AFTER the extensions, if that was indeed the case. No way to account for a franchise breaking the will of it's own players.

In most of the cases here that would have been rough to do. Hard to gauge guys who you don't have a lot of background on coming in from Cuba. It's not like they can go back and talk to Yoan's high school baseball coach or something. You pretty much had their years in the minors, and that is it.

If Yoan Moncada or Luis Robert stayed healthy, hit their potential, and got to the free agent market they would have been $500 million or more on the open market. Eloy as a perrienial 40 homer guy with no defense would have been a couple of steps under, but still a huge number. It was never a bad gamble to take a shot on this, it was just a complete failure of development to be able to keep them healthy.

Ah, right. That makes sense.