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QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 03:35 PM) Coop literally just said like 2 weeks ago that Holmberg is not a starter. I'd be surprised to see him make more than a spot start here or there the rest of the way. Unfortunately Covey will be back at some point. I kind of doubt we see Danish as a starter. My guess is that there is also a fair chance that some of the return in these trades are guys that can fill in spots today as well. I'd also follow up my original post with a guess that no one wants Mike Pelfrey, and if we need to keep a veteran for a spot the rest of the season, we will be just keeping the one we already have instead of adding another.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 03:19 PM) Ehh. It makes a little sense. If the Sox move (or DFA) three out of Q, Holland, Pelfrey, Shields and Gonzalez, they need someone to fill the rotation along with Rodon and Lopez. Giolito should NOT pitch in the big leagues this year. Signing Bartolo to a pro-rated minimum deal and letting him absorb 10 starts will enhance the tanking, and what is the negative? Shields isn't going anywhere. No one will want him unless something crazy happens. Come August 1st, I think our rotation looks like... Rodon, Shields, Lopez, Holmberg, Covey/Danish

QUOTE (Username @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 03:02 PM) I think Bartolo is the most feasible reason (if there is really a move coming), because he's officially a FA today. Would make sense if they anticipate trading Holland and Q this month. Prevents them from having to expose the young guys. Rotation would then likely be Rodon/Shields/Pelfrey/MiGo/Bartolo. [insert puke emojii] Honestly though who knows. They could just roll with Holmberg and I don't think Lopez is that far off. There is absolutely zero reason for the White Sox to bring in Bartolo Colon. He is a free agent after this year, and any team who wants him already could have him as soon as he clears. The Sox aren't going this direction at this time of the season.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 02:54 PM) Lots of things. Consolidation of municipalities and townships. Illinois has the most in the country, lots of redundancy and overhead that are not creating better services but are creating bigger costs. Superintendants getting the same salaries whether they are servicing 14 schools or 40. Police reform - CPD never bothered to reconcile with the community after the Burge torture ring and misconduct. Hard to see how trust improves when an institutional issue like that was never addressed. it will continue to haunt with every new incident. It needs a budget Progressive income tax and tax reform that changes funding model and needs to be coupled with a cut in consumption taxes and property taxes. Chicago needs to make affordable housing a priority Pension funding needs to be reworked and pensions themselves need to be renegotiated. Older, declining population and pensions become difficult as the costs grow as they approach retirement unless you have growing younger tax base (which we do not). A hard look at the TIF program which in too many areas becomes a giveaway for alderman and powerful interests and does not serve it's purpose of reinvigorating districts. This is a huge one right there. Pensions are a gigantic pyramid scheme. As long as more people are putting in than taking out, they work great. With Illinois having an aging and declining population, it could well collapse.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 02:38 PM) what if they just thought this was an ideal time to DFA him and still keep him in org Also possible, but with a lot of teams looking for relief help, I don't know that I believe that..

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 02:34 PM) Are they clearing space to make a waiver claim? If that were the case, they could have just done it when they were awarded the claim.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 02:29 PM) I also didn't say he had no value. I just think his return is harder to get excited about without having a scout database of information on lower level guys. I agree. He has value. He is a low salary and highly effective middle reliever. But with his impending free agency and his lack of a history of being a good reliever, I don't think it will be super high.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 02:24 PM) Finished Silicon Valley last night. Disappointing ending for TJ Miller (Erlich). The best part of that sequence was Jin Yang taking him to the airport.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 3, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) Decided to start The Leftovers over the weekend. 2 eps in and digging it so far. Really loved the first season. Second season was decent. Not sure what to make of the third.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 02:06 PM) It just begs the question why you'd DFA Ynoa when you could have just optioned Infante. Seems like the Sox are trying to clear a 40 man spot. Lopez, Giolito, Gonzalez, Moncada and Saladino are already on it. Basically the only guy in AAA with a shot at being called up right now that is not on the 40 man is Delmonico. Which is why the idea that it has to be something abnormal coming into play here came to me. On the surface it doesn't make sense, so what is going on behind the scenes that now the team is more interested in Infante than Ynoa?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 11:53 AM) And this, my friends, is why you hire lawyers. She'll get a payday. "I didn't want [Taizo] hurt, especially," Yamauchi said, explaining why she did not argue with the flight attendant. "I, of course, feared my personal safety, with everything I've seen with United Airlines. I didn't want to see anybody get hurt." Yamauchi claims holding 25-pound Taizo in her lap during the flight caused her to temporarily lose feeling in her legs and left arm. In all honesty this is how you SHOULD handle things like this.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) OK SoxTalkers, help me out. The newest Planet of the Apes movie is coming out, and I am seeing lots of positive reviews. I've never seen any of them (other than the very old school original), because I can't get my head around the idea of liking what seems just so silly. Are these actually good movies? Do I need to see earlier ones for the more recent ones to sink in? I hated the original series from the 70's but have really enjoyed the reboot. I may have never actually said something like I enjoyed the reboot more than the original series, either. I mean it isn't the best thing ever, but it is definitely entertaining.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 01:02 PM) Why trade guys who have no trade value? Bodies? Sox need a couple closer candidates this year and next or they'll win even fewer than Hawk's coveted 60 games. Nate Jones is NO CLOSER. I don't think the draftniks want the sox to lose 115 games but maybe they do. Pay attention dude. Of course they will lose more games next year. That has been the plan all along.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 11:50 AM) Swarzak has been great. No doubt. To me, in a year there has been a huge explosion of homers, the big thing for Swarzak is that he doesn't give up homers. .23 HR/9 and his HR/FB% is 2.5%. He took the BABIP regression pretty well, but he's due to regress on homers too. Trade him while he's hot. That HR/9 is due for some major regression.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 12:05 PM) This is a good post. The velo readings are huge for Adams and his profile. He's not a TOR guy but definitely a guy to be excited about. The one thing I'd nitpick is him getting a look in Charlotte at the end of this year. He already has 24 starts in BHam between this year and last. Let him get his 2-3 starts in Charlotte in August to end the year assuming we see more of the same moving forward. Another thing with a slight thread derailment - it's gotta suck for the Sox to have starters in Charlotte. It plays really tough to pitch there. Other than guys with less than a handful of starts, the Knights haven't had a starter with less than 4 ERA this year or last. Once the train of trades start happening in Chicago, I would imagine that a secondary effect would be spots opening in Charlotte for Adams and Guerrero.

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QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 01:19 PM) Interesting move when you have both Infante and Minaya on the 25 man. Both have options, and Infante would have been the easy choice. This also opens a spot on the 40 man. Either the Sox are just flat done with Ynoa and Coop gave up, or there is a roster move impending adding someone to the 40 man. Minaya is younger and still has a (small) chance of being a part of the next bullpen that matters, but Infante is over 30 and has no chance of being a part of the future. Weird to get rid of Ynoa who is at least somewhat intriguing due to his stature and arm when a guy like Infante could get optioned again without even losing him. Are the Sox signing Bartolo? It could also be that Ynoa asked out of the organization too.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 11:26 AM) Same. I assume they could do better but I don't think it'll be the Nationals' top guys. Like I said above, if I were working for the Nats, I would target more control if I had to deal away top guys for help. Wasn't it Olney recently who said he thinks a deal between the 2 probably won't happen? Where else could Robertson potentially go? Yankees? Rangers if they start heating up over the next 3 weeks? Dodgers just to add another big piece (similar to the Cubs last year)? yes, he really made it sound like talks were dead because of the ownership veto of the previous deal.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 11:24 AM) I'd be pretty disappointed with Ward and Luzardo at this point. As bad as Ward has been, I'd be pissed.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 11:19 AM) I certainly hope that the Sox are asking for Soto. Yeah, after this winter, hopefully they are asking for Soto and offering no salary relief.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 10:47 AM) We aren't safely past Super Two yet -- he'll be up sometime after the trade deadline, but not sooner. We should be now. One of the early studies posted on Super 2 found that the latest date in the last 10 years was something like June 3, almost all were the last week of May. Moncada with his 31 days of service last year would push out to around July 4th at the absolute end of that scale (Super 2 deadline, plus last years service time). He can pretty much be called up now, unless there is a new curve setting outlier of a deadline this year.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 5, 2017 -> 10:16 PM) McGovern, Goldwater, Mondale, Dukakis.... No.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 10:23 AM) I would not mind keeping Moncada in the minors until next June or so to gain additional control. It's not as if he could not use some more time in the minors before being moved to the majors full time. His defense still needs work and another few months in the minors can't hurt him. We have to remember he only recently turned 22 years old and we have no reason to rush him up and burn service time on a rebuilding club. He will be up as soon as Frazier is dealt. If he isn't, something is really wrong.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Jul 6, 2017 -> 10:28 AM) I'm old enough to remember when people thought Tatis Jr was only being hyped by Keith Law because he hates the White Sox. I'm old enough to remember when people thought Tatis Jr was only being signed because of his name.

Very nice to see Hansen spiking into the top 50.