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Went back in time to see the idea that Avi has been hot before. Right now he is hitting .357 with a 1.010 OPS. I actually went back and looked at his splits by month. The guy has had one other month in his career outside of 2017 where he hit over .350. That was in August of 2013 where he hit .354, but he only OPS'd .879. Until 2017 he had zero months over .900 OPS if he played 15 or more games. This is by far his single longest and sustained period of success in his entire career, and it is almost at two months worth now.

Until we actually see the kid take MiLB ABs we will have no idea what his ETA looks like.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ May 20, 2017 -> 08:38 PM) Evidently Rick is asking for Robles in return. https://www.fanragsports.com/mlb/nationals/...-nationals/amp/ And the good news is he is not alone.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 21, 2017 -> 10:31 AM) Well, it tuns out that the Sox offered a package that paid Robert just as much or more (at least we are hearing today), it's just that the overall package will be less because the Sox will pay less tax than the Cardinals would have. So ss2k, can you admit that we are starting to do things we customarily haven't done in the past? It is pretty obvious with this signing.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 21, 2017 -> 09:57 AM) Yes, and now I have a few guys I sort of know who play in the one place, and have told me that this place treats people from my home very well. Why does that not seem like a completely logical reason to choose one place over another? Again it goes back to the Sox having an excellent case to make on the field. And for a guy who probably had nothing in his life, does the difference between $25 and $30 million really register?

s***, J4L is on the Robert bandwagon? We are all Knickerf***ed

I would say it improves it.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 20, 2017 -> 05:08 PM) http://gatewayredbirds.com/forum/viewtopic...20&start=80 Read pages 6-9 to get a chuckle out of Cardinals' fans being angry the White Sox beat them with a lower bid. That city has an inferiority complex despite Cardinal Nation and years of NL Championship baseball. From scout.com/The Cardinal Nation The Cardinals have a billion dollar TV contract coming in. Saying the team could better use the money elsewhere is just asinine. You add a 19-year old with superstar talent and lose nothing but some money in a league with no salary cap or restrictions. If you can buy talent, go buy talent. You want to know how the Yankees compiled 27 championships, they bought talent. From Ruth to DiMaggio to Mickey Mantle to Mariano Rivera and Bernie Williams. Teams who win scout, develop and sign talent. That is why the league has continued to play with the draft and international rules to attempt to balance competition. Two points: Teams will be tiered based on market size. The top tier has $5.75 million bonus pool. Teams can trade for up to 75% more of their allotted bonus pool. Given the failure rates of even Cuban prospects, it probably would have made more sense to outbid the Padres and Braves for some of their prospects in the most recent signing period. The Cardinals spent approximately $22 million (with taxes) on their entire international class. Robert alone was more than everyone they acquired. Meanwhile, the Braves spent approximately $40 million and the Padres spent approximately $80 million. The Cardinals would have been better off going after some of those top talents earlier in the process before they finalized agreements with those teams (Kevin Maitan's deal with the Braves was reported a full year before the current signing period started, the Cardinals tried unsuccessfully to outbid Atlanta once they decided to go over, which was evidently after Maitan's deal had already been reached). It reads amazingly like Soxtalk.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:52 PM) Just got my Hawk clock in the mail. Fantastic day. I am not going to tell you what I read that at in my first glance.

QUOTE (oldsox @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:45 PM) Would not be surprised if Moncada helped recruit Robert. I would bet that both Abreu and Moncada reached out to the kid.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:35 PM) Had to look him up because I didn't know anything either. https://www.google.com/amp/www.baseballamer.../%3Famphtml%3D1 Hmm...

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:28 PM) Anyone else think the Sox could go after Jose Israel Garcia as well since they have nothing to lose now? A deal would have to come together pretty quickly, but crazier things have happened. Though that still means all of the teams who missed on Robert could be potential bidders as well.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:32 PM) We will still probably sign some long shot international prospects, but Robert is worth going into the penalty box for At $300k tops per slot, we could sign almost 16 kids at that full price, and I don't see that happening. If anything the Sox will be dealing away 2018 INTL cap space.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:23 PM) Imagine if they did this, then failed to sign Robert. Suddenly Katz would become the next premier arm Oh ye of little faith. Katz just suddenly became a top 10 arm no matter what happens with Robert.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ May 20, 2017 -> 04:15 PM) Meh, $750k it's 750k Wish it were for next period Next period is now officially worthless to the White Sox.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:56 PM) Took less than two hours for JR to be cheap again LOL, its Alex Katz. Seriously who gives a s***.

QUOTE (hi8is @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:51 PM) This is essentially a way for them to lower their tax obligation in the Robert deal by 756k... yes? poop.

QUOTE (Tony @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:50 PM) Exactly. I get what SS is saying, but have to give the FO a lot of credit here. They focused in on an angle no one else could sell, and hit a HR. I have said all along the Sox have a great case to make to Robert. I will be curious what the monetary difference in bids was though.

Will be interested to see if we get anything out of the Burjous deal as well.

QUOTE (Tony @ May 20, 2017 -> 03:30 PM) @CSNHayes 10s Believe #WhiteSox were outbid. Also heard they wowed Luis Robert w/ video presentation from Renteria/Moncada/Abreu. bit.ly/2pWFhDj Wow How lucky can you get? This is a huge step forward in a group that needs all of the positional talent it can get. The Cuban pipeline and being a player friendly organization really did work out for them. Kudos to Hahn and the front office, now it is time to pray it works.

Apparently we have gotten to the parsing individual words in tweets stage of the pursuit....

QUOTE (StrykerSox @ May 20, 2017 -> 10:08 AM) Jon Greenberg, from the McGuffey thread, does claim his source says our offer will be "phenomenal", FWIW. HUGE

Who will Luis Robert sign with and how much will it be for? Let's hear your predictions!

Jason Benetti‏Verified account @jasonbenetti 10m10 minutes ago The @whitesox currently have a run differential of 0.

Just incredible pitching from the two top guys on the trade list. Today was a good day.