southsider2k5

If Getz has no responsibility for what happens on the field, how exactly is he making things better?

That's almost getting the point without getting it right there.

And that he refuses to play. As for Zavala, that was a statement of how bad the Moldy signing was if that Seby's replacement level ass would have been a major upgrade for $4 million less.

So this all happens under Getz's watch, but somehow the guys who aren't here are responsible for it. You don't hear it yet?

I don't think expecting this group to be a 40 win team was at all realistic. Literally no one expected it or predicted it. Acting like this was a forgone conclusion is revisionist history

Let me put it this way. I fully believe if Rick and Kenny had stayed in charge, or if we had found a real GM to run this operation from day one, this would not be a 40 win team today.

Paragraph after paragraph of this is all someone else's fault, and even if it wasn't, it isn't really his fault anyway because it was still someone else's fault is easy to view as an apologist.

And this is exactly why you are getting accused of being a Getz apologist. Absolutely nothing is his fault, and even if it is, there is another reason it doesn't matter because he couldn't have done anything, anyway. And yes, if he can't do anything about it, he doesn't deserve the job. Get rid of him.

No one is grading him on what they were. They are grading him on what he has done since he got here. He took a 60 win team and turned it into a 40 win team. No one expected playoffs, but his imprint on this roster is valid.

You are missing the point. Those are just the tip of the iceberg as his internal screw ups. These type of mistakes are how you take a 60 win team and turn it into literally the worst team in baseball history. Yes, I judge him on that.

I am going to keep saying this, but the Sox have $50 million committed to 2025 including Benny and literally only Benny's money in 26 and 27. It isn't like the Sox have a $200 million payroll where they need this space.

Chris Getz recommended Ron883 as a poster on Soxtalk. True story, I was there.

It also meant the San Diego Padres saw him as worth being part of a Soto trade for, and not some of their other more toolsy guys.

I am going to say this much. For a guy like Drew Thorpe to be ranked, there has to be a lot extra there. These guys doing evaluations know what it takes to be successful, and if a guy without a lot of those plus tools is getting this much attention, the rest of his stuff must be that much better.

I just want to know where the artificial barriers we have created in Latin America are coming from, and fix that problem. If it is Paddy, cool. If it is Jerry, it won't make a difference.

I fully expect the repeated injuries to also start to take their toll like we see on so many oft injured players.

Not to mention if a Sox pitcher is significantly out performing their FIP, it probably means that stat is flawed in this case we know the Sox D is historically bad and isn't helping anyone.

Zavala is a plus defender. On fangraphs he is also basically a replacement player, which is vast improvement over Moldy. If you will also notice the entire theme of my post was all of these guys were already here and Getz blew it on their evaluations. He also blew it with guys like Fletcher and DLoach that he traded for and has buried.

They also wanted Devers as the 3rd piece.

I am amazed at how many Sox fans seem to be better at professional scouting than the guys the Sox are actually paying to do it.

That's just it, I don't know. I would guess so as most Cubans start proball early.

He might be out of the window with his age. But also we still have a million for this year.

Let's start with a simple no. Chris Getz signed the worst defensive catcher in baseball to improve the catching position. Literally anyone was better. How about Seby Zavala who he waived for starters? In RF, can we start with a guy who can actually play RF unlike Gavin Sheets? Hell if we don't care how he is going to hit anyway, why not a guy who can catch and throw in Oscar Colas? A better 2b? Oh how about Romy Gonzalez that he let walk for nothing. Out of the pen? Declan Cronin, who walked for nothing? Jesse Chavez who was released? Brent Honeywell, let walk for nothing? Jose Urena another one? Tim Hill been great in NYY?

Get better players would be a great fucking place to start. Who on gods green earth thought Nicky Lopez or Martin Maldonado were answers to this teams problem? Oh right Chris Getz. Aren't GMs responsible for positional coaches? How about that? Maybe someone that can teach fundementals to major league players? It's absurd that I have to list off the literal job of a GM as what a GM could be doing to make his team better, like this is some big secret.

The last Mike Trout contract is going to be there.