southsider2k5

That was a gift wrapped TD Auburn just gave away. They are going to regret that.

This is just brutal "basketball" so far.

I think Auburn will control time of posession, and win the game.

I hate snow, with every ounce of my being.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 06:48 PM) In 1999 Santana threw 160 innings the only time in the minors he threw at least 100. Buehrle threw 98 and 118. Sale had 133 last year. In reality, there are a couple of guys who have done it. There are many, many more guys who have tried and either had injury problems or fell apart completely. If there weren't there wouldn't be a name for it, and there would be guys swinging back and forth all of the time. There might be a couple who get away with it, but like I said earlier, guys are conditioned completely differently for the bullpen and starting. There is a really good reason why it doesn't happen all of the time.

f*** snow.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 03:45 PM) You know...Vlad is a fit for the Twinkies too. I'd rather see the Twins have Vlad than Thome.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 06:08 PM) Buehrle was 21, Lowe was 29, Smoltz was 38 and had surgery. Ryan Dempster threw 206 innings after 4 years in the bullpen. He was 31. Chances are Sale, like any other pitcher, is going to get hurt anyway. Francisco Liriano started in the bullpen then became a starter the same season, and got injured. Johan Santana went from 43 to 108 to 158 to 228 in his early 20s and didn't have a problem. The good pitchers, it means nothing. Its the average guys who have career years and are suddenly pitching in the 7th and 8th innings when they used to get knocked out in the 5th or 6th and the next season they come back down to earth ala Esteban Loaisa. And if that study is accurate, Sale is already screwed. In college he went 36 IP to 86 IP to 102 IP + 33 professional IP. Santana did have innings in the minors, as did Buehrle IIRC.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 05:23 PM) If Ordonez had never blown out his leg, then he would have had a shot...but the era that he played in would likely be a taint on him as well. I am going to bet that Ozzies words after he left Chicago will take him down a notch too.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 05:14 PM) They're obviously all out if their careers ended today. Konerko or Ordonez could make it interesting with a strong late-career surge (which are an increasing rarity with PED testing), say 3+ more productive seasons. I think Maggio has the best chance, but he has to get to 3000 hits in all likelihood.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 04:51 PM) Is Konerko a HOF'er? He needs at least a few more strong seasons, but he's currently: 365 HRs, 1861 hits, 1156 RBIs, .280 avg Or how about... Ordonez -- 289 HRs, 2072 hits, 1204 RBIs, .312 avg Carlos Lee -- 331 HRs, 1967 hits, 1192 RBIs, .287 avg no to all three at this point.

QUOTE (3E8 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 04:34 PM) CJ Wilson, Adam Wainwright, Fausto Carmona, Derek Lowe... Wainwright, Carmona, and Lowe had all logged at least 160 IP in multiple seasons before their trips to the pen. Wilson is the one exception I have seen, but it remains to see how his 2011 goes. If he falls apart, the IP will be a very likely reason why.

Let me put this into a totally different context. For the people who believe that Palin or Fox, or whatever right wing group they believe is responsible for this, how will you react when this happens... A terror attack occurs in the United State again, and the inevitable "I'll bet they were Muslim" post happens, are you going to be OK with that? After all, we have a history of terror attacks on American soil, a culture of hatred generated towards the US, and plenty of threats to carry out attacks by militant Muslim groups.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 04:22 PM) When, what many consider to be, the GOP Presidential front runner has a sniper target on her website for a list of Democratic politicians and tells people to "restock" and "reload" The Left Wing are naturally going to associate that rhetoric with this tragedy....no matter if it directly caused it or not. Especially after 2 years of extremely vitriolic rhetoric from Tea Party candidates and their followers.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 04:07 PM) I didn't know we could do that. I have the POWER!

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 04:01 PM) Yeah, I'd change my vote to that one if I could too. Done ditto

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 03:54 PM) Depends on what the end result was. If I'd said something stupid and another person used it against me, I'd probably go out and say "yeah, they're right, I shouldn't have said that, I'm sorry". I'm referring more to exploiting your friends death with no connection to said person.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 03:50 PM) Ok...if I made an off-color joke about a car accident in December, and I had a friend who wound up in a coma due to getting in a car accident in Minnesota the week before Christmas, wouldn't I feel really F***ing bad about having made that joke? I can think of a few inappropriately timed jokes that I made 10 years ago that still bother me. (Side note, portions of this post based on reality). And it would probably piss you off if someone tried usurping it for their own personal gain too, right?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 03:43 PM) I use the example I gave earlier. If I have a friend who was in a car accident, and I'm talking to someone who makes an off-color joke about someone dying in a car accident, wouldn't I be fully justified in taking offense, especially if they knew about it? You have your time line backwards to make this relevant.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 03:37 PM) You put it up literally a second before I voted. I'd change my vote to that. Done

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 03:34 PM) Where is the "Sale to start for Peavy, then start in Charlotte when Peavy is healthy" option? I put it up there

What say you Soxtalk?

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 03:15 PM) Rangers reportedly going hard after Jim Thome. That's a great fit for him. The RF upper deck is a pop up down there during the summer.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 02:52 PM) I've always bought used and from private owners if possible. I've never spent more than $8K on a car. So I guess put me into the "drive an older car for longer and retire sooner" category. My wife and I have never traded in a car. They have all either fallen apart, or been totaled in accidents.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Jan 10, 2011 -> 02:41 PM) 2012 doesn't matter either. 2011 is the only thing that matters. I'd rather say at the end of the year "well, it'll take Sale half a season in the minors to stretch out in 2012 but at least we tried" than "man if we just had 1 more lights out bullpen guy in 2011 we could have won it all" There has to be some sort of a balance there. You can't just act like the other years don't matter. Its not like if we win the Series in 2011, everyone would accept a 50 win season the next season. The thing is, even if Sale starts the season as a starter, he can always go back to the pen. Going from the pen to the rotation in midseason is a much more impossible task, and it could really screw up other things that are fine, by putting demands on other players past their roles. Thing of the dominos that fell apart last year just when Jenks was out.