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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 10:43 PM) You know what frosts my ass? NONE of the networks are broadcasting live from NYC for the ball drop, they're all tape delayed until 1230 central. f***ers. ha-ha. I got to see it live.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 07:49 PM) It was like having Frank Thomas broadcasting White Sox games. Too much homerism, although I can't blame him for cheering his teammates on. He's still playing for the team. I can handle homers. Stacey King is a massive homer, yet is still grown into a solid announcer. Joakim literally brought nothing to the broadcast unless he was answering a question.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 07:40 PM) Tens of millions. I think I just read 100 million, right?

You got 14k posts to make up!

Funky

http://www.nationalreview.com/campaign-spo...flipped-parties

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 06:29 PM) Noah needs to be in the booth until he gets back from injury. He was hilarious. Oh god no. He was fun when he wasn't commentating, but once he started trying to do the game it was terrible.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 05:46 PM) The Chiefs won their division... That is more of a shot at Florida than anything...

Don't ask, don't tell.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 06:03 PM) The word "Moose" appears at least twice in that list. I'm a big fan of Moosehead, but give me a real 50-50 anyday.

Both ways, he is done for.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 04:16 PM) Ok, Derek Lee 1 year/$8 or Paul Konerko 3/$36? I gotta be honest, I think the number is about double what he should have gotten, but the one year deal would be attractive to me given the Sox payroll situation and players in our system. I can see Viciedo being a first baseman if he can hit.

Zena might be helping too

Good work on the list guys! A lot of new stuff to try here.

QUOTE (dasox24 @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 02:38 PM) Charlie Weis to Florida as Offensive Coordinator??? Are you serious? Why the hell would he leave the NFL to take the same position as the college level? Great, the SEC is all f***ed. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?i...HICAGOHeadlines Hell Florida is more of a pro team than KC...

X-men

very right

Really strange.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 01:20 PM) His actions certainly seem to belie that idea. It tells me that his top worry isn't managing the Sox, and that he would rather do things his way and be out, than to not and still have a job.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 01:14 PM) Well, that is the point as you see it. The point as I see it is that it would have never been publicly admitted to if not to show Ozzie that he wasn't invincible. It never had anything to do with Ozzie having any "value" or not. Perhaps this is the source of our disagreement here; you keep fabricating points I supposedly made previously. What manager is "invincible"? If anyone knows that they can get dumped, it is Ozzie.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 12:56 PM) The Marlins have won two WS titles in their brief history. I'd say they've gained their legitimacy already. Seattle wasn't seeking to trade Lou anyways. Lou was the one who wanted to leave. The situations aren't analogous other than the fact that a manager was exchanged for a player as compensation. What you're saying is that the Angels/Rays/Yankees would trade their manager for Mike Stanton. That's not even close to being the same thing. Actually before all of the pointless tangents, the point was that the Marlins asking us for Guillen doesn't diminish his value. Us asking for a top 10 prospect to make that happen doesn't change that either. But back to the non sequitor, I would imagine if the Yankees got offered a Stanton for Girardi type of deal, Joe would be gone. Hell they let Torre walkaway for nothing. If anyone sees managers as interchangeable it is the yankees. The Rays have already traded a manager for a player, even knowing he wanted to be there. I have no idea what the Angels would do.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 12:50 PM) And the Devil Rays traded Wynn for him because they could not afford Wynn and they were trying to gain some legitimacy in any way possible. What we are discussing is the complete opposite scenario. The Marlins aren't trying to gain some legitimacy by trading for Guillen in south Florida's market? Remember they came to us with the idea. We just told them who it would take to make it happen.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 10:33 AM) It's one of the best battles in sports. The series 2 years ago was nothing short of absolutely epic. Plus, the winter classic is awesome since they have kept it at one game per year. It's not like it's the Favre love fest where the love isn't deserved. I'm with you. I love watching them play, and even more so, against each other.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 31, 2010 -> 12:41 PM) Well, I suppose I should just come right out and admit that we really have no precedent for this and so neither of us really knows for sure. But I disagree. I cannot imagine what would happen if one of those teams was to trade the contract of their manager for a prospect and then that prospect didn't pan out. Or if that prospect broke his leg and was never the same player again. I think these organizations are far too greatful for what their managers have done for them, even so much as they will allow that manager to handle a prospect as they see fit, or trade away a prospect that was seen as the organization's best prospect, because of a clash with said manager, in order to keep the manager in place. Managers have been traded in the past. Lou Pinella comes to mind immediately.

Pish posh