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QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 11:20 AM) Umm.. you should bring the glove. We're definitely in HR range. And umm.. baseballs...? You want my autograph, again? Yeah, on a blank check

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 11:15 AM) Jim usually does that when we sit out there... and I bet Wilkes will probably do it also. Just watch out if SS2K goes over there.. he's a little wild with his release.. Don't worry tonight I have a camera and a couple of baseballs.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 10:56 AM) Because I firmly believe the forum needs at least one visible conservative minded voice. Me, Kap, Mreye, ControlledChaos, EvilMonkey, NUKECLEVELAND, southsideirish, sox4lifeinpa... We have plenty of outspoken conservative christians on this board.

I apologize for the blanket statement. I guess I should have qualified it. The sentiment stands. There should be more than 15,000 people at these games.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 09:33 AM) It is pretty ridiculous that to prove you are a sox fans you put whip out your credentials of the games that you have attended this year. I do not think true fans realistically need to go to any games. But I believe they should, if they can afford it. The correlation being, they have no problem getting mad at the team when they don't open the wallet to get big name players, yet have no problem keeping their wallets closed when they don't like the match up. That's what makes me mad about this. The same people who didn't want to pay to see KC, will complain when our payroll isn't $150 million next year.

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 09:29 AM) Yea.. it does f***ing matter, to me, and I don't appreciate being lumped in a group you called fairweathers. Seriously, did I really need to spell it out in that big of detail? You really think I believe you are a fairweather fan?

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 09:18 AM) I'd appreciate if you revised your comments here. I'm sure you meant to say something like "many casual Sox fans are fairweather"... However it is worded doesn't matter. 15,000 people at a game with the best record in baseball in September is embarassing. I don't care if the Stickney little league B-team is on the field, there should be people in the seats. All this does is prove groups like the Tribune Company and Jay Mariotti right.

Moveon.org jumps in to exploit the hurricane victims to get people to vote against Roberts for Head Justice of the Supreme Court.

Vizcaino without a doubt.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 09:08 AM) How did that answer his question? I wasn't there, nobody was there. Sox fans are fairweather fans, he is actually helping me prove my point. I have my list of excuses just like any of the other 25,000 blue seats that were there last night.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 08:58 AM) Were you there last night? Exactly.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Sep 8, 2005 -> 07:59 AM) ^ This guy has made two homosexual remarks in this thread alone. Suspend or ban him? Its all taken care of

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 06:54 PM) Ok, so here's the question...do you want to go with the 6 man rotation, give BMac the starts, and potentially cost Mark/Jon 1 start a piece and a win that could make the difference in the Cy Young race, or do you go with the 5 man rotation and try to give those 2 the best shot you can? Personally...I plan for the playoffs at all costs, and go with the 6 man as long as Brandon can take it. Personal rewards mean nothing to me. Getting the rotation rested and set for the playoffs, and seeing if Brandon should be in the 2006 rotation mean way more than a Cy Young, as they should to this team. The thing that has gotten this team as far as it has, is the total lack of ego on the playing field. Hitters are willing to give up ABs to move runners over, pitchers are willing to do whatever Ozzie asks them etc. This team isn't talented enough to win as individuals, and if the pitchers are worried about CY awards, they aren't going to win in the playoffs anyway.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:27 AM) I have been playing cornhole since i was a kid. QUOTE(winodj @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 09:56 PM) We had a similar game in my fraternity.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 11:42 PM) I wish Dusty....sorry, I meant Ozzie....and the rest of the team would shut up and play the game on the field. Maybe since the fans were so busy telling Ozzie how to use his pen, Ozzie figured he would tell them to do their jobs and get the games? Once again Sox fans are the biggest fair weather fans ever. They will use any excuse at anytime. I hate to say it but everyone of those quotes is right. Its one thing to draw 15,000 in April, its quite another to draw that in September with the best record in baseball.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 06:38 PM) You gotta post a lot more now to make up for missed time. Is that possible? A man's gotta do, what a man has gotta do.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 06:34 PM) Hey wait, posting at 6:30 - does this mean you have *gasp* internet at the new house? RUN!!!!!!!! Sure do. We are back at 100% operating capacity. Internet, phone, and cable. I was starting to go through withdrawl

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 05:09 PM) Not absolutely necessary...but could it really hurt? Just to have 1 more pitch in his back pocket that he throws like 2 or 3 times per game just to throw people completely off? A slider or a cutter? I think that'd just be the icing on the cake. I bet money they try to add a cutter in the offseason. Its the Sox MO.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 03:31 PM) Brooks is too awesome. He is a god. We invited him out to the patio party for all that are going. Hopefully he will have the free time to stop by.

QUOTE(SnB @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 04:09 PM) i'm on my way to become the most useless poster to make it to 10,000. QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 04:18 PM) I might have beat you by like 5,000 posts Don't flatter yourlselves

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 03:29 PM) No. It's just someone immature who believes wiping out a fact is better than debating one. :rolly OK, its obviously air clearing time. You seem to like to fancy yourself as some sort of a martyr who is fighting the forces of evil who discriminate against your beliefs, and I am here to tell you that you could not be any more wrong. Juggs, you singlehandly generate more PMs, emails, threads, and other problems than all but two posters in the history of Soxtalk all by yourself. Those come from a huge range of people many of them who share one belief or another with yourself. The fact that you are still allowed to post on Soxtalk today is a testement to exactly how open-minded this site is. If you would have caused half of the problems and arugments on any other site, you would have been gone a long, long time ago. Technically you and the other poster you were arguing with should have been suspended instantly, but because we have tried to bend over backwards to show everyone else that your allegations of discrimination are incredibly false, you weren't suspended, even though the new policy stipulates that you are supposed to be suspended without hesitation or consideration. The sad thing is the majority of the time when you are saying that you are being attacked and using that as a rationalization for your poor me entitlement attitude, you are simply being hit back by someone else who has tired of your condesending attitude and need for personal attacks. No one has any pity for someone who is crying "he said something mean to me", when you in fact instigated the situation in the first place. In reality, there maybe one person on this board today who ends up in more fights when it is considered how often people post. Everytime you post, you end up in a fight with someone, I could set my watch to it. The telltale sign is that it is rarely with the same person, which is the key indicator as to where the problems lay. The sheer volume of warnings, PMs, and suspensions that you have logged is by far the most of anyone who is still allowed to post on Soxtalk, and yet you feel you are discriminated against? That is laughable. If you want to point to your posts being edited today as being a part of some grand conspiracy to rid Soxtalk of pious Christians, you can quit flattering yourself. There have literally been dozens of posts edited by this staff, with a whole whopping two of them being yours. All of them contained objectionable material under the new guidelines that were clearly outlined and discussed. Many people even posted messages or sent PMs after their posts were edited, apologizing for their behavior, and realizing that their posts weren't necesary. Now,guess who the only person to cry wolf was? But of course, it means everyone is out to get just you. A few posts may have been missed, but all that means is that a mod or admin didn't catch it. We have been really consistant and even-handed about whose posts get edited. I personally have even edited the posts of people I consider friends off of this board. It doesn't matter to anyone who posts stuff, the point is to stop the pointless namecalling that has taken over Soxtalk. None of us have claimed to be all encompassing perfect, so things will be missed. I can speak for myself is knowing that I wasn't on the site until 13 hours after the first post was made, and I totally missed it. If I would have saw it, I would have taken it down without a second thought. The fact that the arguement was with you probably saved the other guy from getting suspended as well, because once again, I am trying to show that no one is after you, so the other poster couldn't have been suspended without you, in the name of evenhandedness. And finally realize that 99% of what you get on Soxtalk you bring upon yourself. When you consistantly attack people and their opinions and use terms of derision to describe peoples points of view, you will have people who look to tear your posts apart. Even more-so the selective application of statistics, facts, and quasi-sciences when convient for your own point of view only exaserbates the people who want to prove you wrong. Add to that never admitting you are wrong, and it only means that people are going to look for your specific posts to discredit. There are a few other posters on here who fall under that category, and for some reason none of them generate half of the problems that we get because of you. They seem to be able to understand that they reap what they sow, and that there isn't some vast left-wing minor internet board conspiracy to make sure they never post again, but that they made their own bed. Now I am sure you will pick this apart and use what is convient to fuel your misguided rage against the man, so have at it. Just realize that everyone here has actually bent over backwards to try to prove to you that no one on the staff here cares if you post. They care if you attack people, and their opinions, and there is a huge HUGE difference between those two concepts.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 03:24 PM) Bienville founded New Orleans where it was because of its accessibility, located right between the Mississippi and Lake Pontchartrain. So from that standpoint it made sense. The growth of a settlement to a metropolis on the same site, that was not so well thought out. Truth is, though, there has been a lot of land subsidence since then. The site is worse now then it was ehen it was founded. And if I understand it correctly, it is the very levee system that is the biggest source of the problem as it did not allow for the natural deposit of silt in the low lying areas down there, which has contributed to them being further below sea level than they would have been. Ironic.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 03:22 PM) Unless someone knows everything we are all ignorant of somethings. I equally noted the hypocrisy in the edit. Mine is completely wiped out (censorship) & the other was selectively modified. :rolly Yep you guessed it, the whole crazy wacky liberal athiest Soxtalk world is out to get you.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 03:19 PM) No s***. Not to mention, who is real confident in this admin. right now in the event of a huge terrorist attack? You don't think they've taken a good look at the past 10 days and realized that roads, bridges and levees are vulnerable. I understand that N.O. was a unique situation, but there have to be similar ones. Our nuclear facilities have been routinely failing simulated terrorist attacks for decades. Our shipping lanes have about 1% of its cargoes inspected as they cruise into ports. Russia has been selling nuclear materials to anyone with cash, as has Pakistan, North Korea and China. There is plenty out there to worry about, eventually something IS going to happen, there is no doubt in my mind. And if our governmental response at all levels is this big of a clusterf***, we are all screwed when it does.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 7, 2005 -> 03:16 PM) I think that the fact of the matter is actually quite simple...we had a gigantic budget surplus a few years ago and a known set of needs for infrastructure upgrades and maintenance in this country...we chose tax cuts. There are a huge number of things not getting fixed all around the country because of them. The Levees in New Orleans were just 1 item on the list. We wouldn't have had a budget surplus in the years after 9-11, even if we didn't have the tax cuts. That is even assuming that growth rates came near where they did after the additional stimulation of the tax cuts.