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QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 11:49 AM) I'm not certain which comment this came from. Looking across the region, from San Antonio eastward, there are organizations after organizations trying their best to offer aid and comfort. I know of a convoy that left here two days ago loaded with portable cook stations fueled by propane, to help where they could. Basically they left without a destination, and a phone bank of volunteers calling to see where they should go. They are heading to Dallas and possibly into LA. The looters get on the 5:00 news, but there are far more angels than devils. Its just like anything. The rioters are more sexy for 24 hour news than the generous. Its a sad statement on our society today.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 11:39 AM) How do you: A. Know how much under the sticker to shoot for? B. Come off like you are in control of the situation? C. Translate haggling to monthly lease price? Don't let them negotiate with you in terms of lease price. MAKE THEM negotiate each piece of the deal separately. Workout the price of the car, then the trade in, then the financing.

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 11:27 AM) You don't want to be looking back at an A.J. Pierzynski for Joe Nathan, Fransisco Liriano, and Boof Bosner type trade in 2 years, or at least I don't, especially if the trade didn't pay off in the short run. That's the problem with overpaying, but Kenny even said he was willing to overpay and still couldn't get a deal done. How much more can you ask of a GM? Or even better two months of Randy Johnson for Freddy Garcia, Carlos Guillen and John Halama. Except in the 2005 trade enviornment, THAT wasn't even enough. Teams wanted established players, plus top prospects in order to get a deal done. It has been well published around the country.

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 10:25 AM) Live feed. http://194.97.144.25/NewOrleans I can't through too it, it is too busy.

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 10:52 AM) I just don't understand how the state government of LA and the federal government can be so unorganized. Wasn't there an emergency plan for if one of the levees broke? A good preview of this was 9/11 in NYC. Remember the disorganization, and the problems with bad communtications between agencies and local, state, and federal governments? Now take into account this is a much larger area, involving many more people, in much more dire conditions, and you have a recipe for disaster.

QUOTE(SnB @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 09:35 AM) we had ozuna and willie harris both on the bench, they are basically the same person (positionally wise) oh well, one of the few things we disagree on Ozuna plays the left side of the IF and left field. Willie plays second and CF if needed, I don't even see those two guys overlapping really. But I guess we will disagree

QUOTE(SnB @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 09:26 AM) before we got blum, konerko played like 2 months straight, he could have easily been up during that period. And during that time, Gload would have played once a week to every two weeks at 1B, plus maybe another inning or two as a defensive replacement. We all know he would have been the second lefty PH behind Timo, so he wouldn't have gotten many ABs that way either. The Sox needed guys on the bench who either had speed, could play mulitple positions, and/or OFers. Without Gload being able to play the OF his usefulness was extremely limited.

QUOTE(SnB @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 09:21 AM) he doesn't "want" a decent contract, he wants some playing time that he's earned. And if Gload could play the OF, he would have had plenty of playing time... We have talked about this before at length. Ross Gload would have been a wasted spot on the roster when he could only play 1st or DH. If he could have played LF/RF it would have been a different story, and Ozzie said before he would have been up here, but with the way Ozzie uses his bench players, he needs flexibility and availablity.

QUOTE(Hanky Panky @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 10:04 PM) I have to say no to the six-man rotation. Let's face it Garland needs some more wins. Right now, he has very little confidence it seems. He's been stuck on trying to get no. 17 for like 3 weeks now. He needs that f***ing win real bad. Buehrle is a workhorse and loves all those innings, so just let him keep pitching. Garcia could use some more innings too. The Cubans are iffy, but El Duque really need some confidence before the postseason. I do have to say that Jose has been our best pitcher as of lately. B-Mac pitched well against Texas, but the only reason he was called up was to give El Duque regular rest. We should not move to a six-man rotation. Personal statistics mean nothing. Having Jon ready to pitch in October is all that really matters.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 02:36 AM) I thought of this while watching the finale in Texas. AJ went into the Boston series tied with Varitek for most HR by a catcher with 17. He still had 17 until his dinger tonight. The last I heard, Varitek has about 21 HR now. AJs average has also come up about 30 points since he quit swinging for the fences. I like the consistancy of this AJ better.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 08:14 AM) Galveston last 6,000 souls in 1900 from a hurricane. http://www.1900storm.com/storm/index.lasso I though about Galveston but discounted it. Just now I remembered that Galveston was the biggest city in Texas at the time of that hurricane. Good call. More what I was looking for was has anything like this happened in the US in the last 100 years? I can't think of anything else.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 08:03 AM) He played in the minors for 4 years before getting a chance. He had 3-4 good months here with us. They weren't complete obviously but around 20 games. Gload is 29, was he like 24 when he started in the minors? Also he had an up and down season until September of last year, then he had a good September. The guy has been a minor league free agent multiple times, don't you think if anyone saw what some people see in Gload, he would have been a mainstay on a major league roster years ago?

QUOTE(wsox08 @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 09:39 PM) only 14 pages.. wtf is up?? I guess it isnt as long as normal and the sox arent losing so no one is complaining I HOPE.. YES Its always shorter when we win. Also many more conspicuous absences...

Too bad Konerko didn't say something like this, it would be a 200 post thread. Ross Gload is exactly what he is, a fringe player. If he were that good, he wouldn't have bounced around the minors for almost 10 years before getting a chance, and having one good month at the major league level. He'll never be a starter, at least on a good team, but there is no doubt he can stick around as a left handed bat off of the bench. His best bet for a long career is learning to pinch hit, and trying to catch on as a utility guy in the National League.

I guess it got too cold for all of the fair-weather fans already...

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 12:16 AM) Yeah, I know but the multiple Chris Young lovers wre begging for his upbringing ... QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 12:18 AM) Well, they're delusional. The Sox made it clear a while ago they were sending him to Arizona for the Fall League. People might have wanted Young up here, but there was never any doubt about his September destination.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Sep 2, 2005 -> 07:14 AM) Depresing, isn't it? I don't recall the ravaged population of SE Asia f***ing each other over for short term personal gain after the tsunami. Yea us. ( ) Yeah it kinda upsets me too. Its one thing to be emptying a supermarket because you have nothing to eat, and I don't think anyone would begrudge that type of behavior. But you are talking about rapes, shootings, and just general anarchy conditions. I was curious about historical context when I asked earlier, when was the last time that something like this happened. When was the last time that a major US city was basically destroyed by a natural disaster? The last two I could come up with were San Francisco in 1906 and Chicago in 1871.

I don't know about the logistical side of things, especially when groups like FEMA probably never even imagined this many people to take care of, but there has been one massive miscalculation when it came to a disaster like this, and that was the assumption of law and order after a disaster.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 06:35 PM) they said gooch was having trouble seeing out of his right eye? Well that could go a long way towards explaining his last couple weeks of play.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 06:50 PM) Understanding how a major American city could be thrown into chaos and destruction in a natural disaster is not only productive and fair, but mandatory in my opinion. While no one's blaming the federal government for a hurricane, I do hold them accountable for their response to this tragedy. I will scrutinize it, as we all should. After four days we can't get fresh water in there. You make your own judgements of that, I'll make mine. Provide me with some historical guidence here. When is the last time that a catestophic event has essentially destroyed a major population center in the US? Running with that, how specifically should the federal government have been ready for a disaster of this scale, in this specific city, and how much should they have invested in it, waiting for it to happen one of these days? How much should they have stored, where should they have stored it, how much should they have spent to store it, how many people should have been kept on call for this how many different places in the country should we be preparing for catestrophic events just like this...etc. It is easy to be upset, but the reality is the logistics of what you are suggesting is nearly impossible.

QUOTE(Steff @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 06:45 PM) The buses made it in there. To that one particular part of the city. Not everyone is there. You are talking about trying to track down a couple of hundred thousand people spread out all over all kinds of flooded areas, trapped in places, and not even mentioning the safety of the people who would be trying to get this stuff there in the first place. Can you imagine them driving a semi-tracker full of food and medicine into some of those areas, and a group of armed vigilantes killing the aid workers and hi-jacking the truck? A couple of days ago I couldn't have imagined it, today it wouldn't surprise me. The very first thing they have to do is restore law and order. Until they do that, they can't rescue people, they can help people, and they can organize the safe distribution of good and services to the masses.

The Saints are in the same boat. I wonder where they are going to go?

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 06:41 PM) Can't we just "invade" NO, bring a bunch of trucks and ships in and just get those people out of there? Set up emergency relief centers at accessible locations around the city and drop in medics and supplies? Like...NOW?! It's been 4 days!! You can't bring trucks into places that don't have roads and bridges. Ships can't make it in because there is no where to empty them.

QUOTE(TheDybber @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 12:19 PM) Just read it on ESPN's Transactions page. Now that's what I call screwing the pooch. You know the GMs were sitting around waiting to cut him AFTER September 1st to really kick him out the door. Now no contending team can have him on their post-season roster (not that they would anyway). The Baltimore Orioles have to be the happiest team in the world to be out from under that contract.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 1, 2005 -> 06:31 PM) Those people shooting at medical workers and other helpers deserve to be thrown in jail for life. My father went down there yesterday to help as a doctor on an emergency response team, and he said it's just an absolute war zone. Shoot to kill at that point. If anyone even points a gun at anyone, they need to take action to protect people. Its the only way that law and order will be restored.