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QUOTE(Texsox @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 01:36 PM) Exactly where will the inefficiencies be? In the Doctor's office and Hospitals or at the payment centers? As far as keeping costs down, first of all wouldn't that mean making it more difficult to seek treatment and tests and a reduction in the quality of health care you would receive? Interestingly Doctors are more concerned about dwindling reimbursements for treatments. They are worried that the government will not be as generous with their payments as private insurance. They also worry about differences in costs between say Manhatten, NY and Manhatten, IL. If the reimbursements per procedure are the same, it would be a disaster for big city Doctors. Oh dear lord... Exactly where would the ineffeciencies be? That's a laugh. That's why they hire guys like Kap and pay them the big money to find them. Being a small business owner, do you know exactly where all of your ineffeciencies are? Now multiply that times billions to get governmental health care scale and try answering that again. Pricing is in Economics 101. Quantitative Analysis is quite a different field.

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 12:50 PM) I was at this game, sitting in the grandstand down the left field line; it was 1984, IIRC. A woman and her two kids actually left the park in the 8th inning! My friend and I asked her, "Where are you going? Why are you leaving?" She replied, "Look at the scoreboard!" Me, mouth agape and completely incredulous, "Yeah, look at it!" She left with her kids and my friend (a Twins fan and now a Priest, BTW) "Boy, she's really f'in stupid, huh?" We then got into a really good conversation with a guy who had been coming to the park since the days of Willie Kamm. Awesome. Not many people remember this game because we didn't win. I think it was 1984 or 1985 IIRC. It was also the game that my dad used to teach me that you never leave a game early.

I started talking to my wife about the most memorable games I have ever seen, and was trying to rank that with some others. Here is my list #1- Robin Ventura's walkoff Grand Slam against Goose Gossage of the Rangers #2 Dave Stieb pitching a no hitter into the 9th against the Sox at old Comiskey. The Blue Jays were leading 6-0 and everyone had started to cheer for him to get the no-no, except for me, and then the bottom of the 9th came around. Rudy Law, Bryan Little, and Harold Baines, went backtobacktoback to make it a 6-3 game, followed by Fisk and Kittle getting backtoback doubles to make it 6-4. The Jays then went to the pen, and finished off the win. I'll just never forget everyone going crazy. #3-Harold Baines hits a walk off 3 run HR against Dan Quisenberry of the Royals, while Quiz is the best reliver in the game. #4-Sox get down 6-0 to the Cubs early, and comeback to win 13-8 in a huge turnaround. #5 Carlos Lee's extra inning Grand Slam to win a game against the Cubs.

Out of curiousity, after watching Scott Pods play in LF, and get some of the worst reads ever, are there any people who would almost rather see Everett out there than Podsednik... strictly on a defensive basis.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:49 AM) Better than White Sox vs Cub? Not for me. I hope to live to see the day we sweep them in the World Series. Not a chance. The Cubs going 0-162 would be the only way that would improve a STL/CWS world series. The Cubs getting into the playoffs, let alone the World Series, would take attention away from us, and that is the last thing I want to hear about. I believe this smilie said it best when he said :fthecubs

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:47 AM) The only title I'm looking forward to is: White Sox Clinch AL Central Title Hey, you, get offa my cloud!

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 09:56 AM) I gotta admit a St. Louis/Sox World Series would be mighty nice!! That would be the ultimate WS

Sorry, I just wanted to see this as a thread title on the front page. It makes me happy

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 11:16 AM) You're probably right, the mystery continues. Yeah continental drift tore apart Pangea 10's of millions of years ago.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:33 AM) I know, that's what I mean. There is one in Mexico that on a certain day and certain time each year the sun casts a shadow on it and it looks like a serpent climbing up the wall. The Aztec God is represented a serpent. The stones weren't just randomly dropped somewhere. Every stone was probably moved a bunch of times. I wonder if with all the know how and modern machinery we have today, if we'd be capable of building one like those? The margin of error was less than a 1/4 inch, and this was with millenia of time to settle. There is no way we could do it any better even with GPS and all of the fancy technology we have today.

QUOTE(Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 10:13 AM) The Score is announcing that they will start on line streaming tomorrow, so next year our out of town friends will be able to hear the 16 spring training games as well as the regular season of course. I can hear it now: "The World Champion White Sox are on the air!" They can't stream the games. The internet rights to MLB belong to MLB exclusively. AM1000 streams live right now, but they have to blackout the games.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 09:49 AM) I've seen the pyramids up close and I can't imagine how men could have done that. It's difficult enough to imagine the sheer brute force it would have taken to move, let alone stack the stones. But when you look at them up close, the stones fit together so perfectly, they're air tight. Every last, small crevice is sealed with a stone. The alien theory is interesting. Has anyone seen the rock carvings of the alien in Peru? http://www.ufoarea.com/aas_nasca.html The exactness of the pyramids is what gets me. The shafts that pour light into death chambers perfectly align with a certian star (the star that was where they were supposed ascend to after death) on the summer solstice. The length of the base of the great pyramid is the exact distance that the sun travels accross the face of the earth in one second. There are more of these, but I can't remember them off of the top of my head, I have a couple great books at home.

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 09:58 AM) Here is a pic of my son...we are so proud He looks just like his mom

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 09:56 AM) Like when Ozzie visits the mound and the pitcher tells him, 'yeah, skip, I'm feeling pretty tired, I think you should pull me now'? Isn't this what pitchers do? They say, oh, it's a little tight, but it's not too bad, I can pitch through it. They lie to themselves more than to the manager. That's why you have to rely on your coaches so much to detect those mechanical flaws that come with health problems, and why you never leave someone in b/c of anything he says. Duque's getting his $8 mil no matter what, and in all likelihood it's the last money he's gonna get as a pitcher. He was hurting somewhat, nobody knows how much, but he still thought he could contribute. I'm not gonna blame someone who wants to play hurt, especially when he's got nothing to gain from it personally. Big, big difference between being tired and being injured.

The Sox average attendance today (24,206) is right at what they ended the season (24,437) at last year. Keep in mind this is without having the 3 Cubs sell outs, and the 6 Yankees/Red Sox games to go. Not to mention that we still have 5 half price Monday's left to go, and 6 pennant race games with the Twins. The Sox could push 28K average this year, by the time all is said and done. Even if you are looking at just a 12% increase (which would put us at about 26k) we are going to go over 2.2 million fans. Things are looking good on the southside.

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 10:41 PM) KW and Ozzie are overreacting big time. They knew what they were getting themselves into with El Duque and the plan was for him to have 4 "rests" in the season. He's one of our big game pitchers and we're going to need him for when we face the Twins. They knew what they were getting themselves into, so just deal with it. I disagree fully. The whole team is built on trusting each other. If Hernandez isn't being honest with the team, we might be giving away games, that we could be winning. That isn't going to sit well with him teammates. This isn't about Hernandez being hurt, its about him lying to his manager and GM.

They talked to Kenny about this deal over the weekend, and that was exactly what he said about the deal. Supposedly he talked to Bob Melvin over the last week, and said it was a rare win-win, and that when Kenny made the deal he told Melvin that he was getting an All-Star in Carlos Lee.

QUOTE(drowninginflame @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 01:11 AM) We tailgated for the first time today and it was awesome. Got Drunk on our own beer and cooked up some burgers and dogs. We didn't spend a dime inside, I am tailgating any chance I get from not on. Speaking of which we are tommorrow and friday Tailgating is the best. Do yourself a favor and get to know the people around you, as it will make your time exponetially better.

Frank is a perfect pinch hitter right now. Heck as a DH he essentially has been pinch hitting 3 to 4 times a game for years now anyway. Plus as slow as he is running right now, it makes sense to PH him in a situation where you could put in a speedier runner late in the game anyway.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 10:15 PM) He already did the hardest part, founding someone that would breed with him I kid, cause I care™ Founding someone? How do you establish a person exactly???

QUOTE(mreye @ Jun 20, 2005 -> 07:52 AM) My girls! I love the look on the older girls face

After the aliens got flooded out of Atlantis they built the pyramids in Eygpt.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jun 19, 2005 -> 11:01 AM) I disagree that waste and inefficiencies are unique or even more so in government programs. Listen to posters here rant about their employers. Look at the front page of executives going to jail and paying record fines. Look at the lawsuits against HMOs, private insurance companies, etc. Be one of the millions of Americans that cannot get health insurance, and see how great the current how much profit can we make based system is. The incentive to keep costs down is their budget is voted on every year. Unless we build a system that requires citizen A to only go to Doctor A, I don't see how the government would be the only choice. It would be the only choice in guaranteed payments to the Doctors. I would also envision people being able to spend their own money and visiting private Doctors as well. Insurance companies have profit as one of their primary responsibilities, tell me how that helps patients get the best care? If we cannot trust the government to cure a cold, should we trust them to execute citizens or what types of health care should be available and to whom? Its not really opinion, but economic law. Ineffeciencies are always more present in fields where their is monopolistic pricing models. There is no incentive to reduce cost, because of lack of competition, there is no pressure to keep prices down. They can put whatever price they want on it, because people have to have it, and there is no one to undercut their pricing.

I am soooo glad to see AJ in the lineup.

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