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That, my friends, is the $64,000 question....the guy has issues, not too many people will argue that. We have enough complaints about the clubhouse atmosphere...

Yeah, not too many NY fans would be happy with a starting rotation of: Wells, Weaver, Lieber, Contreras....

So if we trade Maggs, who hits 3rd, Lee? Absolutely....CLee has shown enough patience at the plate over the last year and a half to hit 3rd. We need speed in front of him, or at least guys that can carry high OBP. That, my friends, is the big mystery in the 2004 Sox lineup right now.

I don't think alot of us know exactly where JRs payroll restraints come from. Is it a self-imposed limit that he and the other holders created? Is it just the amount that they want to designate for baseball, and use their other finances for real estate, etc? We all know that JR has the money to field a high $$$ product on the field, but doesn't do it....

Heres the thing...will Frank be "receptive" enough to take the change to 5th in the batting order. If he hits there, then I have no problems with him swinging for the HRs. But he CANNOT swing like that hitting 3rd in our lineup. Yes, at $6 mill, a guy hitting 40 HRs and hopefully 100 RBIs is a pretty good deal in todays game. IMO it all depends on whether or not a new manager will pencil him in at #5, and stick with it no matter how much whining and complaining our "franchise" does. P.S.- Um, rudeness usually isn't a good way to make new friends here, Jeff..

Help! by the Liverpool Lads....

#3. Amityville Horror- Don't really know why, maybe cuz I haven't seen it in years since I was a lil' boy. #2. Hellraiser- The original, just a damned disturbing movie to me, and there isn't much that bothers me on movies. #1. Halloween- The original, the best, the one. I love this movie, and have seem it far too many times to count. 1978, yeah, its old, but I'll be damned if it isnt still a scary movie to those that haven't seen it. "I shot him 6 times...SIX TIMES!!!!"

You and me both, winodj.....oh, to have a "phenom" immediately live up to expectations, and not pull a Ruffcorn.. Remember, this "Phenom" was injured off and on for quite a while out of the gate. Buehrle was more of a "Phenom" then Beckett Yeah, but Jas, Buehrle was more of an afterthought as a draftee, whereas Beckett was a 1st Round guy that most expected to be all that, and he delivered. Its been a while since we've had a Top Draft Pick come up to Chicago and deliver like that.

You got it Fanof14.....the HP-48G was teh standard required Calculator at Clemson University when i first started there...that was in 1995 now they switched to the TI-83, but most of the professors still swear by the HP...as do I.

You and me both, winodj.....oh, to have a "phenom" immediately live up to expectations, and not pull a Ruffcorn..

G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA vs.BOS 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 2.1 5 5 5 0 5 1 19.29 4.29 .417 vs.ANA 3 3 3 0 0 1 0 21.1 26 12 11 1 6 10 4.64 1.50 .306 vs.CWS 2 2 0 2 0 0 0 13.0 11 6 6 2 6 7 4.15 1.31 .229 vs.CLE 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 7.0 7 4 4 2 1 8 5.14 1.14 .259 vs.KC 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 15.0 11 3 2 0 3 15 1.20 0.93 .208 vs.MIL 2 2 1 1 0 0 0 12.0 11 5 5 2 2 7 3.75 1.08 .229 vs.MIN 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 7.0 7 5 5 0 3 3 6.43 1.43 .292 vs.NYY 2 2 1 1 0 0 0 14.2 16 8 8 1 5 11 4.91 1.43 .267 vs.SEA 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 9.0 7 1 1 0 1 6 1.00 0.89 .219 vs.TEX 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 8.0 7 4 4 1 3 6 4.50 1.25 .219 vs.TOR 2 2 2 0 0 1 0 17.0 17 4 4 2 0 9 2.12 1.00 .258 vs.ATL 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 5.0 5 5 5 1 5 0 9.00 2.00 .250 vs.HOU 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 7.0 4 2 2 0 4 2 2.57 1.14 .200 vs.MON 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 8.1 4 3 3 0 2 6 3.24 0.72 .138 vs.NYM 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 6.2 8 5 5 1 2 2 6.75 1.50 .308 vs.PIT 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 7.1 7 2 2 0 3 3 2.45 1.36 .259 vs.STL 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 9.0 7 1 1 0 2 8 1.00 1.00 .219 vs.SD 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 5.0 11 6 5 0 0 5 9.00 2.20 .458 vs.COL 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 7.2 5 1 1 1 1 2 1.17 0.78 .192 vs.FLA 1 1 1 0 0 0 0 6.0 6 2 2 1 3 5 3.00 1.50 .273 vs.ARI 2 2 1 0 0 0 0 14.0 14 4 4 1 3 6 2.57 1.21 .259 vs.TB 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 13.2 15 6 5 0 1 12 3.29 1.17 .278 Heres Ponsons numbers vs each team this year....looks to me like when he pitched against the good teams in MLB: Atlanta, NYY, Minny, Boston..he was average at best. We dont need another #3 pitcher, we got a couple already. We need a #1 that can eat innings, get the CGs if possible. Also, loking at his numbers for his career... Pitching Last 3 years Team G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA 2001 BAL 23 23 5 10 0 3 1 138.1 161 83 76 21 37 84 4.94 1.43 .289 2002 BAL 28 28 7 9 0 3 0 176.0 172 84 80 26 63 120 4.09 1.34 .258 2003 BAL 21 21 14 6 0 4 0 148.0 147 65 62 10 43 100 3.77 1.28 .258 Yes, he has gotten better each year, but I just don't think he is the answer to our solution if we don't get Colon, just MO. 18 out of his 31 starts were "Quality"....I'm still weighing my thoughts on Ponson

Frank will be here, whether we the fans want him or not.....he has said that last years delve into Free Agency was "a bust" and that he doesnt really wanna go through it again. We will have a $6 million DH next year, like it or not. I am really starting to think that we will also have a $8 million DH forced into playing first in Konerko. Thats 50% of our payroll in 3 players who, while each have definate strengths they bring to the table, none are superstars that shuold be responsible for that much of a teams payroll.

I don't really have that high of an opinion on Ponson....when it was discovered that the Orioles were setting him up to pitch against other teams #3 and 4 starters, so that if and when a trade was made. they would receive mor than he is worth. Add on to that the fact that he absolutely was putrid in the postseason...we have enough guys that can choke when we need them the most...

Colon for free agency Not that I am surprised...we may see him back in a Sox uni, but I am not too heart-broken if he isnt. IMO KW did what he had to do, considering this regime's history.

What, you don't think that Chandler will lead the Bears to the promised land??

I don't see anyway this team can afford to pay Tom Gordon and his gimpy arm $5 mill a season with our current payroll status. I was happy to see him succeed like he did in our time of need, but no way can we give Gordon 5 mill.

I myself would be happy to never hear his name mentioned on Soxtalk again, but then again, I never cared for "Craftsman"

If he is someone Sox are giving a multi-year deal then the SOX are in HUGE trouble down the line, JG will never be better than a #3 at best, he is not worth the investment. No, actually now is the BEST time to sign him, because if he has some success while we are signing him year to year, arbitration will come a calling...I'd rather lock the guys up that are gonna be here a while, Buehrle, Garland, Crede, CLee...just because they are discussing Garlands contract now doesnt mean that they arent gonna do the same with the other deserving folks.

While we are all apologizing, I'd like to apologize for the way my South Carolina Gamecocks have been playing defense the last 3 weeks.....sorry for any financial loss these performances may have caused.

Damn Alex, i just noticed the wording of that post by beastley.... That would be hard to explain though, a basketball in the womb...

I'm sorry, but that guy (Roman) was the defination of a Tool in my dictionary...I dont care what kind of "Problems" the kid had.

I'm also a global mod, not the Sex, Lies and Politics board mod. Read my post in the "I'm gone" thread and you get the jist of how I feel about the entire situation. And hey, I locked a Roman thread today that Roman started and did anybody see Roman_Vengeance's signature? Its sad Roman is trying to get back in to the site no, it's sad that anyone listened to that f***ing dickhead in the first place.... And there folks, we have the truth....no reason to EVER read anything Roman posted...good riddance, Old Roman/Soxplosion/Roman_Vengance

Watch it Apu, another personal character assault there!!

That was a pretty funny story, especially the quote. "He was pounding it." Good stuff Gash.

agreed I second that notion!!!! Salma is smokin'