Dick Allen

The totally useless Nate Jones keeps mowing them down.

QUOTE (Skipper @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 03:21 PM) I was hoping Dunn would walk. Dotel has been known to give it up in recent seasons

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 03:05 PM) I'M NATE JONES b****! When he's throwing strikes, he's very tough.

QUOTE (BFirebird @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 03:03 PM) We aren't the only fanbase to say that. I think his demeanor just makes it seem that way. If you struggle and don't look like a lunatic people tend to think you don't care. This is a different year. He didn't care much of the time last year, and he didn't care much his final days in Toronto. There is no doubt he's very graceful and that will give an appearance he's loafing, but last year he did loaf, and Ozzie even pulled him for loafing.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 02:23 PM) Technically, the thread title was created because I was sick of reading about other people whining about their fantasy leagues. Somehow, I am not shocked that you are clueless, though. When my team wins, I'm happy, when my team loses, I'm not. OH MY GOD AWFUL FAN I SHOULD JUST RAH RAH 24/7! No one except you would ever call be a rah rah guy. But I do enjoy first place. Sorry you don't.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 02:19 PM) Who's whining? You were completely dismissive of an accurate post in the most glib way possible. Translation: it was a dick comment meant solely for the purpose of chastising someone without bringing anything of merit to the conversation. You always whine about people complaining about a bad player (Beckham), but then see statistics and they aren't good enough for you, your eyes tell you differently. Um, that's the same f***ing thing, since unless you're the real Dick Allen I don't think you know "dick" about playing in the Majors either. You complain every game, every sport. A thread title includes you complaining about fantasy leagues. I don't know why one would continue to watch sports if it pisses you off so much. Do something that makes you happy.

QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 02:19 PM) If its easier to hit an outside pitch, then why in the hell would Fister throw him one? Don't mention the obvious.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 02:15 PM) When Viciedo fails to try for 3rd, and then fails to try for home, on back to back plays and we get no runs despite 3 hits, that is frustrating. Has there been one game this year where you didn't have about 50 complaints. Find a new hobby.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 02:14 PM) Sorry, clearly since you don't play in the Majors, you are not allowed to have an opinion. It sucks, but DA has spoken. You're opinion is very uninformed quite honestly. If hitting were as easy as many here make it, they would be making millions hitting baseballs, and league leaders would be hitting closer to .500, but keep on whining.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 02:13 PM) Defend more White Sox players. What color are your pom poms? Just keep saying every White Sox player sucks, then cry when things don't go their way. White Sox--first place.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 02:10 PM) Trying to go the opposite way is very hard on an inside pitch, that is not rocket science. If you are ahead in the count 1-0 there is no need to swing at a pitch on the inner third to try and move the runner over. Take the pitch and try to do it with a pitch away. The chances of executing are better when you do that but I could be wrong. Have you ever hit before?

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 02:07 PM) Dick Allen: Defender of all thing's White Sox! Gordon didn't get a hit when he had a chance there, but DA kept quiet. Just wait until he gets his next hit so DA can point out that everyone on Soxtalk trashing Beckham (and his sub .700 OPS on the season, both pre and post ASB) that they are soo wrong. LOLOLOL LOOK BECKHAM GOT A HIT YOU IDIOTS. Give it up. That was a terrible display, and this pissing themselves whenever it matters against the Tigers this year makes me want to slit my wrists. Then do us all a favor and follow through.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 02:06 PM) We were trying not to score Exactly. The Sox want to lose and be shutout.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 02:05 PM) taking a pitch is very easy. You must be a guru. How come you aren't in the major leagues making millions?

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 17, 2012 -> 02:03 PM) take that pitch 1-0 and do it with a pitch you can handle. Hitting is easy.

Olmedo actually ran.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 16, 2012 -> 01:35 PM) This is where Ventura consistently overworking Peavy in the first half of the season is having some pretty obvious negative consequences. Location on his fastball just not quite pinpoint. Left another one out over the plate against Parmelee, too. Got away with it. Sox fans complain the starters are overworked and also complain when Ventura uses any reliever other than Veal. What is he supposed to do?

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 06:28 AM) I don't follow the Marlins on daily basis but just heard on Mike and Mike interview with Buster Olney that Miami brass is not happy with Ozzie whatsoever. Olney said you can't rule out Ozzie getting canned. Crazy mother cow. I can't think of one reason they would be happy with him. The team stinks. He's pissed of a large part of their fanbase. He's throwing players under the bus and they are trying to attract fans.He's getting back to all things Ozzie. The team he left instantly became better after his departure after dropping payroll. He IMO, is the biggest phony in sports in the sense when he puts a uniform on he thinks he's the most important piece of the puzzle.Basically, if he stopped trying to be what he thinks everyone wants him to be, crazy Ozzie, and just tried to be a manager, he'd be fine. I just don't know if that's possible. The Marlins don't like it, but he's been the same act since winning the WS.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 14, 2012 -> 06:58 AM) I never said that the other White Sox played well. They deserve blame too. I just don't see why Peavy gets a break just because he struck out 9 Tigers. He couldn't even finish the 6th inning and he blew a two-run lead. I'm sorry if my expectations are higher for him than everyone else. God forbid he pitches a gem, and we don't have to depend on a shaky bullpen. Isn't that what top starters do? Peavy gets a break? He never gets a break from Sox fans. He goes through a surgery no other pitcher has ever gone through and Sox fans are pissed at him for giving them 200 innings of 3.30 ERA pitching. How come you don't have a CSINAA considering his 0-3 record and 6.00 ERA against Detroit? Coming into this season, if you thought Peavy should pitch like an ace after what he's been through, you didn't have a lot of company. Its pretty clear his stuff isn't quite what it was in SD, but he's still done well. The entire Sox roster for the most part has stunk up the joint vs. Detroit. Don't just pick on one guy.

JCINAA

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 03:09 PM) Then why is everyone disagreeing with my thread title for? I disagree that salary is irrelevant. It has hamstrung the Sox from signing other players, so the closer he produces to his value, the better. He has had an outstanding season and has been a big part of the Sox success. Except for when he has faced Detroit, which is frustrating as hell. And for someone who hypes up his own attitude & desire, how about you beat your teams biggest rival when it matters? Don't just keep the Sox offense in the game, how about you once win the game despite the offense? If the entire argument is playing or pitching well against the Tigers, there are a lot more White Sox other than Peavy you can vent your frustrations.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 05:37 PM) If it's raining lightly but about to rain harder, makes much more sense to delay the game so that you don't burn both starters in 1.5 innings. Sale is 0-3 with a 6.00 ERA vs. Detroit. Verlander has owned the White Sox. Starting this game and a long delay might not be a bad idea.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 02:26 PM) And in his other 5 starts he averaged 7.2 IP with 1.4 ER per start, including a Sunday night lockdown of the 1st place White Sox. I never said I expected a pitcher to be perfect or to never lose a start. I just ask that my highest paid pitcher, who is hyped up as a competitior that brings 120% every start, has an ace-like performance in a must-win game once in a while. Not just a nearly quality start. No one has said he's an ace. His salary is irrelevant. He had major surgery. Most on this board, even the people complaining about him would have to admit he's exceeded their expectations.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 12:47 PM) What do those starts have to do with anything? I want Jake Peavy to once, in a big game, shut the opponent down. Just once. Verlander is supposedly an ace. His team is in second place. Getting lit up like J4L on a Friday night certainly isn't ace-like.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 11:30 AM) 07/20 vs. CWS: 8 IP, 4 H, 2 BB, 2 ER, 6 K 09/02 vs. CWS: 8 IP, 4 H, 2 BB, 1 ER, 11 K He's already done it twice this year, not even looking at his 2011 when he carried his team. And 3 runs isn't bad. Not finishing the 6th inning is a problem IMO. Is it too much to ask Peavy to pitch like that once in a big game? Or I guess it's OK if he has 9 strikeouts and tries really hard. Conveniently you left off his recent starts against KC and the Angels where he allowed 14 runs in 11.2 innings. That, plus his over 5.50 postseason ERA confirms by Soxtalk standards he's not an ace. Even last year, in 4 postseason starts he went 20 innings and gave up 12 runs which is 4 starts of 5 innings 3 runs, exactly what everyone is so all over Peavy about. Certainly not ace-like. JVINAA