Dick Allen

Just a bit high and outside

Make em pay

I wonder how Rowand is doing in the radio booth. I'd tune in but live downtown and the reception is zero.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 30, 2012 -> 01:26 PM) 100 x 10 = 10K donation 15 x 10 x100=15k

Flowers makes contact. Progress.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 30, 2012 -> 11:05 AM) 1.) Saying Viciedo is overrated (particularly on SoxTalk) isn't the same as saying he sucks. 2.) The Sox were never rumored to "give up too much" for Youkilis. Nice hedge on your part. 3.) Where could the Sox find a slugging LF'er? Really difficult to say .... Oh wait, Adam Dunn played LF as recently as 3 weeks ago. 4.) Every post a whine? Not enjoying the Sox in first place? Why do you feel the need to pass that kind of judgement based on postings on a message board? 1) You can't stop saying trade Viciedo. At no time have you mentioned he's a pretty decent looking young player. Nice try. 2) They had been rumored to be giving up Floyd at one point, Thornton, Crain, actually on the day of the deal. Boston wanted Parra and AZ to eat a lot more money than KW actually paid. No hedge on my part at all. 3)Adam Dun in LF full time? LMAO 4)I can read your posts. You are obviously a very unhappy individual.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 30, 2012 -> 10:38 AM) Where did I write that Viciedo sucks? OTOH, you have gone on record as saying Youkillis is washed up. Maybe you're right. Yes, but they gave up crap to get him and are paying him peanuts. I don't have a problem with no risk moves, especially when your other best option is the ODog. Youkilis could break down today. I was terrified the White Sox were actually going to give up something useful to get him. His back is a question mark, his hand was in ice after his first game with the White Sox. He's sick to his stomach. Chances are Youk isn't going to be the answer. I hope he is, but as I stated before, its very rare another team is paying a player more money to play for his current team, than his current team and that player turns out to be a difference maker. You have said Viciedo is overrated. Slugging LFs are easy to find. Of course when asked to name a few who were easily available, you were uncharacteristically silent. The Sox are in first place. Why don't you enjoy it? Every post is a whine.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jun 30, 2012 -> 10:25 AM) Flowers is starting today in place of AJP, it seems odd to me to give someone a day off after having a 2 HR day. I know there has always been a fued between AJ and Jake, but has it gotten to the next level? I don't recall last year AJ not catching for Jake but it seems like this year anytime Jake starts AJ isn't behind the lineup. I may be wrong but this seems to be an issue this year. It could just be a regular day off for AJ but he doesn't get many off. It does seem Robin conveniently gives AJ his days off when Peavy is pitching, but I wouldn't read too much into it. I do think they butt heads, but I really don't think there is the hatred that some assume. It is a day game after a night game and its 95 and humid in NYC. If Jake goes deep into the game and a pinch hitter or runner is needed for Flowers, it won't be any big deal AJ is catching Peavy.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jun 30, 2012 -> 10:27 AM) So is someone going to make a gamethread? The person who started the last one must start the next one. You must respect the streak. Its the most important message from Bull Durham.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 30, 2012 -> 10:14 AM) I don't think you can pencil in seasons like this next year from Sale, Peavy, Konerko, and AJ. The Sox have to take advantage of this year. Let me guess, you do this by trading Viciedo, because unlike the rest of Soxtalk and every GM in baseball, you understand that Viciedo really sucks. He's easily replaceable by Dan Johnson or someone of his ilk.

It was garbage time and really hard to judge someone there, good or bad, but he appears to be at the very least Ohman's equal, which means the Sox can't lose on the change.

Everything must have come out OK for Youk, he's back in the line up today: De Aza cf Youkilis 3b Dunn 1b Konerko dh Rios rf Viciedo lf Ramirez ss Flowers c Beckham 2b Peavy p

Upset stomach for Youk

Youk was swinging like his back was bothering him.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 05:28 PM) I agree about the 2013 outfield, seems pretty set to me and I think we're better off giving Mitchell a full season at AAA next year. However, I think there's a good chance we trade Rios before the 2014 season. Mitchell should be ready by then or else he's probably flopped out. Plus De Aza will be a 2nd year arb player, so getting Rios' salary off the books would free up some money for De Aza and other needs. As for Thompson & Walker, I don't see either of them challenging for major league jobs before 2015 at the earliest. Honestly, if Mitchell pans out, we most likely won't even have an opening in our OF until 2016. By then Hawkins might be a serious prospect and we won't want to commit to any other young OFs until he is ready. I see both Thompson & Walker being trade bait in the not too distant future. Mitchell would be trade bait if I were the GM. Football players are almost always behind in developing anyway and missing a year hurts that. If Hawkins develops like the Sox think, Mitchell is more than expendable. I would definitely consider trading him for something that gets the Sox into the playoffs.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 05:19 PM) in before "23 other teams passed up on Trout as well." The Sox also passed on Pujols several times. The point I'm making is the White Sox and some fans have been using their draft position as an excuse for not developing a lot of good players in the past decade. They have had opportunities to draft a lot of good ones. Of course, the problem could have been in their developmental personnel. Had they had drafted guys like Trout, Pujols, Pedroia (I'm cherrypicking, I know) maybe they don't become the players they became. It does help a team, especially one where payroll is always under discussion, to develop some home grown stars. Maybe the Sox are turning a corner, but if they had Trout and he was as good as he is now, Anthony Rizzo wouldn't be page 5 news. I wonder where he was on the Sox board.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 04:25 PM) You mean he becomes qualified for it, right? Because there is no way in hell he has a chance against Mike Trout. If Trout got hurt tomorrow, there would be a shot. What if the Sox drafted Trout instead of Mitchell?

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 12:32 PM) Either (A) Crain is going on DL or (B) Humber will be back to take what would be Axelrod's next start, so they are just getting an extra reliever for 4 games since neither Humber nor Axelrod can pitch during that time. I think Crain is going on the DL.

Greg has fully been addicted to Guillen kool aid. Just like Oney and all the others, if Ozzie's team fails, there are fingers to be pointed in every direction except one. Ironically, if you gave him a team with HOFers at every position and they won, the reason would be Ozzie. If Ozzie was half as great and influenced the outcomes of games as much as some believe, there is no way the Marlins would be where they are right now. He was effective when he was about winning. When it became all about money, Ozzie became a below average MLB manager, as the results indicate. Maybe he can get it back, but it would be hard. Once you're stopped taken seriously, its not often anyone, at least players, will reverse that thinking. Ozzie and Ditka are pretty similar.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 29, 2012 -> 06:41 AM) And apparently, Robin never ordered a replacement copy of that manual. Again, Ohman faced a higher percentage of LH hitters this year than any other year in his career. While it would have been ideal Ohman never face RH hitters, it was not practical, except if he was taken off the roster.

Good thing the Sox are playing Tank everyday and not platooning him to boost his trade value.

You get a win with Axelrod starting against the Yankees............it just may be your year.

Huge win. Most of us, if not all, assumed loss.

Nice grab.

That's the Andruw Jones I remember.