Dick Allen

QUOTE (knightni @ Mar 11, 2011 -> 08:07 PM) You're looking at the entire season. Look at June and July when he got more playing time. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...ar=2010&t=b He held an average over .270 until mid September. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...p;t=b&year= Yeah, don't look at the entire season. A smaller sample size will surely show what he's all about. C'mon, man. The only thing he does that isn't covered by De Aza/Teahen or Milledge/Teahen is play SS, and he's not very good at that, and the Sox already have a HOF back up at that position, plus another guy who could play there in a real pinch. You're not going to send Lillibridge to pinch hit. You can with De Aza or Milledge. Brent Lillibridge, despite being able to play several positions, is not a major league baseball player.

It amazes me how much better of a player Brent Lillibridge has become over the winter without playing with a good number of posters. This guy has no business being in the major leagues. The Sox have a back up infielder in Vizquel and Teahen can play everywhere but SS in a pinch. If Ramirez and Vizquel go down in the same game, Beckham can play SS in a pinch. Lillibridge sucks and always will suck. He's out of options, so what. Let him go suck for someone else.

I'm going with the if its not broke, don't fix it, and keep Thornton in the 8th and make Sale the closer for 1 year. As long as he's healthy, the White Sox will make Sale a starter eventually for anyone who really thinks they will not. John Hart was comparing him to Randy Johnson. That's a little crazy IMO, but the White Sox think he'll be a star.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 10, 2011 -> 09:42 PM) If they suspended Tressel for the entire season, that'd be a more than fair punishment IMO. I honestly am not even looking for that much, just more than 2 games against MAC teams. It should be longer than the suspension the players received. It makes little sense its not.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 10, 2011 -> 09:05 PM) Morel is starting to scare me. Its March 10th. Don't get overly excited or pissed off at performances in spring training especially this early. Its meaningless.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 9, 2011 -> 11:07 PM) It's the NCAA so it make take years, but I'm curious to see their final report on this whole situation. Because that press conference led to more questions than answers, and there were already a ton of questions in the first place. No, you received your answers. The AD is afraid of the football coach. The AD is supposed to be Tressel's boss, but at Ohio State and a lot of other schools to be fair, its apparently the other way around. I personally think the NCAA is going to come down a lot harder on this major rules infraction. The suspension for 2 games against glorified high school teams is a joke as is the fine. He'll wind up getting the money he's out with the fine back in no time. It would be at least a little defensible if this guy who included integrity as a large part in his book, would have admitted he didn't mention anything because he was scared, scared not because some drug guy was involved, not because he was afraid for his players, but because he was afraid what coming clean would have done to the Buckeyes chances at a national title in 2010. He's always come across as a classy figure. That was all a bunch of BS. He's as slimy as they come.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Mar 8, 2011 -> 11:07 PM) Of course not. The guy makes a BCS Bowl every year, and thus makes the school large sums of money. Unless he did something that was going to get the school the death penalty, he would never be fired. Even if he such action should at least be considered, seeing as sitting on info about potential major violations for 8 months is rather brutal. I like how he made those kids commit to coming back to school (which benefits him, not them) when it turns out he's violating the NCAA rules as well. Some integrity. So sitting on potential rules violations for 8 months isn't cheating? Isn't one of the first thing they tell a coach is to report any potential violations they are made aware of? I know you're an OSU fan deluxe, but come on. It's hard for any person not wearing scarlet and grey to look at this story and not think Tressel was trying to hide this for the sake of the 2010 season. Not to defend the kids who were guilty of violations, but I find what Tressel did a lot worse than what they did personally. In fact, a story I read said the word any was underlined in his contract. Tressel is another phony cheat. Now he's all dissappointed with himself. Like Pearl, the only thing he's dissappointed in is getting caught.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Mar 8, 2011 -> 04:54 PM) Well, he got 2 hits off Felipe Paulino today, he is a major leaguer. His 3rd hit was off of Eric Stults, another major leaguer. He got a double off of Joe Martinez. He has 50 career innings, but is more of a AAAA guy I think. Got a hit off Jensen Lewis, who is a major leaguer. Another hit off of Jess Todd, who has 28 career innings. Those are from the past 2 games, so yeah, most hits were off of major league pitchers. Viciedo can hit, but to get excited about how anyone is hitting on March 8th is really stretching it.

QUOTE (whtsoxfan @ Mar 6, 2011 -> 11:07 PM) Omar Vizquel. That was decided before ST. Lillibridge for back-up infield and pinch runner. Teahen because he is under contract for 2 years That leaves two spots that are open. I like Danks and Viciedo because of their potential upside. They would be a minor upgrade over Kotsay and Andruw Jones, IMO. Milledge is a better overall player and probably has a better shot than either Danks or Viciedo, but I like Danks left hand bat and Viciedo's is a better hitter than Milledge will ever be right now. Most likely, Lillibridge is in his final weeks as a White Sox employee. He'll either be traded for some used gum and or chew, or be sent to the minor leagues where he will have to pass through waivers. It is extremely posssible he makes it through, but then he'll have to decide if the summer in Charlotte is worth it to him or a summer at some other minor league city. I believe he will choose to walk. Jordan Danks isn't much of a prospect. He's the same age as Beckham and hasn't mastered making contact in AAA yet and has little power.

Jim Les............He gone.

QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 6, 2011 -> 02:42 PM) Sorry I goofed on the positions. Buehrle with a nice play. Is it me, or is he carrying a little more gut weight this year? He's never looked like a marathon runner, but he's definitely put on a few pounds this past offseason.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Mar 6, 2011 -> 02:27 PM) i can't even find an audio feed online at 670 or mlb.com without having a subscription. someone help a hi8is out, please. =D Go to whitesox.com. Both are on the front page.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 6, 2011 -> 02:14 PM) Derrick is amazing. If the Bulls hold on, I think Rose will lock away the MVP today.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Mar 5, 2011 -> 10:59 PM) The Sox are probably some 40-50 games below .500 in the preseason during the Ozzie era. He should be used to it. Spring Training records don't mean much, games usually end with a line up filled guys you may never see wearing a White Sox uniform in a game that will matter. I think he's concerned with how the guys who are expected to contribute are playing, especially considering the emphasis the White Sox are making on a fast start this year. It does seem way too early to panic. It seems the only thing we really have learned is Teahen is still a lousy thirdbaseman. That's not exactly a shock.

If Dallas McPherson has to play for the Chicago White Sox, KW is all in, including the towel. I suppose there is a million to one chance he could be useful, but this is a bone for all the Charlotte Knights fans.

Humber was waived twice this past offseason. Chances are he sucks. Maybe if the Sox have to use him he can be magical a start or two, or maybe he can develop into a long man. Expectations from a White Sox point of view, are pretty low.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 28, 2011 -> 07:11 AM) I especially enjoyed the "Lastings Milledge has grown up!" story. Who knew 3 days at a locker next to Pierre would do the trick. Maybe Ozzie, Oney and Jenks should get dressed next to Pierre as well.

Apparently Francona texted with Ozzie and spoke with Jenks and told both of them to put an end to it.

QUOTE (dmbjeff @ Feb 27, 2011 -> 03:12 PM) Who else left here and bad mouthed the Sox? Seriously, it is way less than you make it out to be. Thome, Rowand, Garland, Blum, Garcia, Contreras, Linebrink, Iguchi, Crede, Uribe. As far as I know, none of them had a bad thing to say about the organization. OCab and Swish are the only 2 I know who had some issues and it was brought upon themselves. As for Dye, he was done and the rest of baseball agreed obviously and he was disgruntled with his declining skills more so than mad at the organization. Bobby is a sensitive prick and Ozzie is hot headed and defensive. I have no problem with Ozzie standing up for the organization. If Bobby plans on plunking a hitter, I guarentee their will be a brawl and it won't end pretty for Bobby. Its not just players bad mouthing the Sox. The Sox are not unique when it comes to that. Players rip teams all the time. Its just rare teams have managers, GMs and manager's relatives who bad mouth the players right back. I know some will say good for them, but its pretty immature.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Feb 27, 2011 -> 09:54 AM) I have not seen one Sox player defend Jenks. It has been pointed out often that the Sox were covering for Jenks often and Guillen backed him 100% to a fault. Maybe he cleans up his act maybe he doesn't but he really has no room to criticize the Sox they gave him plenty of opportunities and he got $12M now STFU. How many have defended Ozzie? Konerko seemed to allude to off field stuff and Thornton definitely was saying Oney was way out of line. Whether Jenks is right or wrong, and I believe he was wrong (although his latest comments were nothing, and if they bother Ozzie so much, he's getting way too thin skinned) not commenting on it goes a lot further than acting like an 8 year old.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 26, 2011 -> 05:17 PM) Those masks Rip wears must be very, very costly. lol As long as he's somewhat responsible, he should be swimming in money. He should be, but whether he is or not is anyone's guess. The majority, yes majority, of NBA players are broke 5 years after their playing days.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Feb 26, 2011 -> 07:55 PM) God I wish Ozzie knew how to take a high road, just once. Jenks was out of line with his initial comments, the comments Oney popped off about. Konerko insinuated earlier he was fed up with the Ozzie/KW feud and we all know what Bobby said about Oney was putting it very gently. What I don't understand is players leave teams all the time, and several of them pop off, but the Sox have a manager who pops off, a manager's son who pops off and a GM who has popped off about ex Sox players. I don't know of other GMs or managers or managers' sons who pop off except for one team. Ozzie said he lied for Jenks, but he always spouts off how he only tells the truth. So I guess I don't understand that either. I agree with you, if Ozzie has a problem with Jenks he doesn't need to go to the press with it. He made it seem like he tried to contact him but because everyone thinks Jenks is an ass no one had his number. Didn't Oney supposedly contact him after his latest twittergate? Couldn't he have asked Oney how to contact him? They are shacking up together in AZ. Its really nothing new, but I agree with you, I wish the Sox as an organization would just keep quiet. If it were so important to keep quiet while he was on the team, bringing up old stories just to try to make him look bad would be silly, and considering how Ozzie initially left the organization in 1997 saying a lot worse than Jenks, and the many things the White Sox hid about Ozzie during his playing days, I don't know why Ozzie just can't let it slide, especially when he knows his punk kid is fueling most of Jenks angst.

QUOTE (Tex @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 08:11 PM) Based on what are their salaries nuts? Based on what a cop earns? Or based on the profits that baseball teams make? I understand KW's point which I believe is where does it stop? Eventually tickets in the upper deck are going to be $100. A beer is going to be $10. But $30 million a year isn't so asinine for Albert Pujols. Maybe a 10 year committment at this time is, but if you watch the interview, he really never mentioned length. As someone pointed out the Sox will be paying Peavy and Rios close to that combined and there isn't a GM in the world that wouldn't take Pujols over those 2. KW said he would do better spreading it out, well, Teahen, Rios, Peavy will combine to make about $30 million or even a little more in 2011. I'd take Pujols for $30 million and probably have a lot more revenue from ticket sales already to fill the other spots. The best players in the game earn their money, but it drops off quickly. Ironically JR is one guy who really started snowballing salaries when he gave Albert Belle that huge contract. From what I read there was very little negotiation. When Hawk talks about Selig he always mentions how everyone is making money, so the owners are making money too. Is it supposed to be like the old days where the players make hardly anything and JR and his buddies pull in $100 million or more a year? I do hope they find away to keep tickets somewhat affordable or they will be doing the game a great disservice, but paying guys what they earn isn't a problem. Its the guys like AJ Burnett. Its giving Ben Sheets $10 million.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 22, 2011 -> 12:25 AM) True. KW would gladly throw that at Pujols if he could. But it's like what chw42 said. It's the years, not the money. Albert won't be worth anything near $30 million after age 35. He said he would never give Pujols $30 million a year even if JR authorized it. I think he's a little off here. As Bill Veeck once pointed out, its not the top players in the game distorting salaries, they are worth it. Its the next tiers of players that are easily replaceable, no one pays to see, and are making big bucks on long term contracts. Nobody can claim they should be paid Albert Pujols money except Albert Pujols. What's assinine is giving players like Mark Teahen $5 million a year for really no reason.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 21, 2011 -> 04:53 PM) Sox fans aren't the meatheads that Bears fans can be. We can accept the truth. So you think Minnesota is great and should be destroying the Sox every time they go to Minneapolis? I read on this very board how the Twins would lose their home field advantage moving outside. It didn't improve the White Sox results. The attitude towards the Twins needs to change or the results will not.