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QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Feb 5, 2011 -> 03:05 PM) Getting back on the topic, Rogers (yea, I know) thinks it's a great idea. Don't teams trying to win a championship trade prospects for pitchers like Danks, studs with 2 years left on their contract rather than vice versa? The window here isn't very huge with this rotation. The time is now, not hoping guys pan out in 5 years. A lot of people are assuming Danks is gone in 2 years. Well, Konerko was gone, AJ was gone, Buehrle and Dye were gone in 2007. The list goes on.

QUOTE (Brian @ Feb 4, 2011 -> 05:33 PM) Buster Olney just made a reference to it on SC and said it will keep him out. Pettite was a pretty nice pitcher, but if he's a HOF, HGH or not, they need a big expansion in Cooperstown.

Last year, Dye was offended at $3 million offers. Then this offseason he says its not about the money he wants to play for a contender. Fine, but why would a contender give him anything but a minor league deal? If he is still able to hit, he'll make a team. If he can't he wins a trip to AZ or FL for 6 weeks. He was horrid the second half of 2009, sat out last year, and isn't exactly getting younger. JD has had a nice career, but really if his ego doesn't shrink and he quits instead of tries to make a comeback, I bet he'll regret it in a few years. He most likely doesn't need the money, but when you have the gift he was given, if he really loves to play and compete, he should try to do it for as long as he can.

QUOTE (knightni @ Feb 3, 2011 -> 09:04 PM) The CTA may have been overhauled if they had gotten the Olympic bid. Now, it'll be at least 25 more years of patching holes. Didn't the CTA basically blow $100 million + on the unfinished hole in the ground I believe under block 37? It was supposed to be some sort of superstation. The problem with giving the CTA more money is it will not be spent correctly. It never has been. This is the organization that knowingly blew off, actually faked, track inspections so they could use that money on something else. I think the entire agency needs to be overhauled. I think you are correct. The Olympics and fed money is the only way this system will ever truly be fixed. If you gave the CTA a check tomorrow to make all the repairs and upgrades that needed to be made, they would be out of money before 5% of the project was done.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 3, 2011 -> 12:28 PM) Unless the Sox sign another starter, I don't see how they'd have the luxury to trade one away at this point. All the decent SPs are off the market. I agree with this. The Sox don't have starters to spare.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 3, 2011 -> 09:29 AM) Danks is quite good, but the Sox better trade him before he touches free agency. We would not win that bidding war. If you don't win the war, you still have the money available you earmarked to him to spend and some draft picks. I'm not a huge draft pick guy because most are the picks behind where the Sox have annually selected and a lot of people have used as a reason for their poor drafts, but they are better than nothing. If the Sox are a contending team, trading Danks makes little sense unless you are getting guaranteed studs back. Non contending, trading him makes sense. I'd hate to be KW and trade Danks away for a package like Cleveland got for Sabbathia and try to sell Matt LaPorta to the fanbase. It would be better to have Danks finish out his contract.

I read somewhere the Sox were only offering about 500k guaranteed. I personally would have taken him back at that price, but Freddy could blow up at anytime. One less Oney playmate. If he makes the team he gets a 1.5 million contract with some incentives.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 29, 2011 -> 10:57 PM) Personally, it seems like De Aza is the 14th (or 15th, depending on how you view Viciedo) guy on the depth chart. If I am to make a prediction for how it all shakes out, the hitters look something like this C - Pierzynski 1B - Konerko 2B - Beckham 3B - Morel SS - Ramirez LF - Pierre CF - Rios RF - Quentin DH - Dunn C - Castro 1B/3B/LF/RF - Teahen 2B/SS/3B - Vizquel CF/LF/RF/2B/SS - Lillibridge You are probably going to want to have 2 people on the bench who can play SS, Lillibridge is out of options, did show a little bit in a utility role at the end of the season, he can play CF, and really, if the Sox need a guy to stand in the outfield, Dunn can do a little of that too. He does the standing around really well, but not so much with regards to his fielding ability. You're kidding about Lillibridge right? If he showed a little at the end of the year, whatever he showed I don't want: Split G GS PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS TB GDP HBP SH SF IBB ROE BAbip tOPS+ sOPS+ June 10 1 7 7 2 3 1 1 1 6 0 0 0 1 .429 .429 1.286 1.714 9 0 0 0 0 0 0 .400 413 348 July 16 5 22 21 5 8 3 0 0 4 2 1 1 9 .381 .409 .524 .933 11 1 0 0 0 0 0 .667 204 153 August 16 6 32 32 7 6 1 1 1 4 1 1 0 9 .188 .188 .375 .563 12 1 0 0 0 0 0 .227 75 52 Sept/Oct 22 10 40 38 5 5 0 0 0 2 2 1 2 17 .132 .175 .132 .307 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 .238 6 -11

QUOTE (djcollie03 @ Jan 29, 2011 -> 10:22 AM) Split Season Ticket Holders get the same box/cool packaging as full season tix holders. I think the big difference is the swag box that the full season folks get at the end of the year. I wonder if they'll have a preseason bobblehead like they have the last few years? If you paid on time, a Juan Pierre bobblehead.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jan 29, 2011 -> 10:36 AM) Teahen's a fatass w/no range. I really hope we only see him occasionally in the outfield. He's a waste of space, IMO. You're probably right, but the difference between this year and last, is the White Sox are counting on Teahen to provide absolutely nothing. Chances are he's a bust again, but anything he gives you that is positive is gravy. His contract is signed, the Sox are most likely stuck with him, maybe something clicks. Obviously we are in the fluff portion of the year, and everyone had a great offseason, is in the greatest shape of their career, and is primed to have the best year of their career. Most of the time, they wind up being who we thought they were. Sometimes there is a surprise. I'm not saying Teahen will surprise. I believe he won't. But there's always a chance.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 28, 2011 -> 03:00 PM) I'm almost positive that under Law's system Dayan isn't eligible for his list. He no longer has prospect status. I believe in his prospect chat he states that Dayan is a DH that doesn't walk, but if learns some patience, look out. He also notes his impressive raw power. Methinks people are just looking for more reason to dislike Mr. Law. If you just read Keith Law's take on the White Sox and never watched a game or read a newspaper or listened to the radio, you would think the White Sox haven't had a 50 win season in at least 20 years. I am not exaggerating. I'm tough on KW and Ozzie, but you could take the biggest pessimist on this board and compare him to Law and the Soxtalk poster would seem like Hawk Harrelson. Law doesn't have anything nice to say about the White Sox. KW must have really pissed him off when Law was working for Toronto.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 28, 2011 -> 08:47 AM) The real problem with signing a Garcia is...what do you do with him if all of your other 5 starters are healthy. If you can get him on a deal where you can option him to the minors, that's perfect, but he ought to be able to find better than that just by going to NL clubs. The other place to put him is the bullpen...but I don't think that works that great either. I noted earlier how I don't think he's a good bullpen fit with his health issues and with his history of needing a long time to warm up. Beyond that though, there are only 2 guys in the bullpen who can effectively be sent down to the minors, Sale and Infante, and frankly, I expect that both of them would outpitch Freddy as bullpen guys this year. If everyone is healthy and there is no place for him, depending on how he's doing, he can be traded or Jackson could be traded. Someone is always looking for starting pitching. If the White Sox truly don't believe Peavy will be ready before May or June, I'd be shocked if they didn't try to add a veteran stopgap, and Freddy is probably the best one out there. If not Freddy, if I were KW, I'd look at Justin Duchscherer. If he is healthy enough, he can start at the beginning of the year, and you could slide him into the bullpen when and if Peavy is ready.

QUOTE (Ranger @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 01:52 PM) But, like I said, they also need offseason sales on individual games to be good. Trust me on that. Most people don't buy individual tickets for mid-to-late season games, unless it's for the Cubs. Of course, the previous season usually helps the next. However, the first couple of weeks of the season, it's impossible to tell what kind of team it will be for the full season. That's why I'm hoping people don't wait to "see what happnes" in that first few weeks before they start buying tickets. Mainly, the call from the fans has been: spend the money, put the team on the field, and we'll show up. That will have to prove to be true early on. I understand that, but there is a reason April and May games don't get the premiere or premium tags games later in the season get hung with. Think about it. If you had a couple of kids and had a budget of 2-3 games per season, when tickets went on sale, are you going to buy tickets for a Saturday afternoon in April or a Wednesday in early May, or do you pick the June and July games? I'd be willing to bet since the strike over 16 seasons ago, the Sox haven't had many non opening day April and at least early May games with advanced sales of at least 30k except for 2006. The first few weeks of the season depend on the team playing decently and weather. If the forecast calls for it to be 35 and the Sox are 1-4 on the Friday after opening day, you're going to see a lot of green. If its 65 and the Sox are 4-1, there will be a pretty decent crowd.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 27, 2011 -> 10:37 PM) A 6 man rotation is just never a good idea. Its never a real bad idea to have too many starters. If everyone is healthy and can pitch, they are pretty easy to get rid of.

QUOTE (Ranger @ Jan 26, 2011 -> 10:20 PM) Games from June through September are the games the results on the field are responsible for getting people there. In Apr/May, southsider is right, it's up to the fans to respond to the offseason. Many of the early-season tickets are bought before the season begins. It's not accurate that fans "always" show up early on. That's not true. They show up for opening day, and there's almost always a dramatic decline in the games that follow. Sox fans have not, historically, responded quickly to success. They didn't start selling out games until late August 2005, and they were in first place by 12 games in June. April and May games have historically seen rather low attendance due to school and weather. Even the Cubs are gearing their 13 game plan trying to get people to buy April and May games. Why is some man or woman supposed to commit $200 to a game when there is a decent chance it could be 35 degrees or a delay that will get their kids home at 1 AM with school the next day. The only time the White Sox had stacked crowds throughout April and May was 2006, and we know why. Walk up sales are what can help the Sox. They not only need to play well, they need the weather to cooperate. The fans respond to the offseason with a bump in season tickets and Ozzie plans and they buy games in the summer months.

Bulls ranked #3 in the NBA in value according to Forbes at $511 million. Also according to Forbes, JR and his buddies made over $50 million in profit for at least the 4th year in a row.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 26, 2011 -> 11:38 AM) It was 7-3 Patriots in the first half. The game was up for grabs. According to you, Brady isn't able to block out an injury enough to play, OK then. If you can read what I posted, Drew Bledsoe, who prior to that season signed a $100 million contract, and who lost his job to Brady because of injury was the back. up. If the back up was someone of Todd Collins' ilk, the situations would have been similar, and it would have been interesting to see what Brady would have done. Are you even sure it was Brady's call whether to play or not?People have sat with less an injury than Cutler had, and people have played with worse.

Final payment was less than a week ago. I think you have at least a month, probably a little more before the tickets arrive.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 03:01 PM) Another thought I had is that Cutler knows what play he got injured on, as do the Bears, but they don't want to state what play it was so as not to get the offensive lineman crucified in Chicago for that particular play. Or they want to use the injury as an excuse for him sucking pretty much the whole game. If it was at the end of the half, what was the problem the rest of the time? Aikman and Buck said he wasn't very accurate warming up, but I really don't know if that means much. Maybe he's getting loose or screwing around. The only guys I really pay much attention to before the game are kickers.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 25, 2011 -> 03:28 PM) He was the starting QB on a team playing for a spot in the Super Bowl. I don't see what the difference is. The Patriots were winning when Brady left and had Drew Bledsoe as the back up. The Bears were down 14 and had Todd Collins coming in. Gigantic difference. Basically, unless something really crazy happened, when Cutler was done, so were the Bears. Guys play hurt all the time. Some guys can block it out enough to perform, some guys can't. If Cutler didn't think he could, or if he figured he couldn't, fine. Who knows, maybe going out again injured him even worse and he missed a part of next season. But it was perhaps the biggest game Cutler will ever play. Walking off the field after a 3 and out, and standing on the sidelines isn't the way most would envision a franchise QB leaving a championship game injured, especially considering the replacement. I'm not calling him a p**** or anything like that, because if he doesn't think he can go, he's going to be bad anyway. I just think some guys almost use being hurt as motivation to be even better, and somehow suck it up during play. I've seen more than a couple players limp around like they are almost crippled then find it in them to play at full strength for 5 to 7 seconds then limp around again. Jay is apparently not one of those guys. We've all had twisted ankles and such, and sometimes the pain is too great to go shovel the driveway, but if you're in high school and you have a game that night, its good to go. It was good enough for him to go out in the first series of the second half. I really just have trouble wondering why there was no chance after that, what with the game's meaning, the score of the game and the alternative.

QUOTE (ChrisLikesBaseball @ Jan 24, 2011 -> 04:21 PM) I can honestly say that I've bought in on this "All In" campaign. My future wife and I skipped Christmas presents for each other this year and we purchased the weekday 27-game ticket package, shortly after the Dunn/PK/AJ signings. Maybe our two seats in section 531 will make a difference in a mid-season move.. We've made it to 10-12 games a year over the past 3 seasons It's really become how we spend our summers, so we decided to make it official with the season ticket package and we paid the parking up front at the discounted rate. Good for you. The weekday plan has some nice opponents this year. And any woman that will forgo Christmas gifts to land Sox tickets is a keeper.

I just wonder if Cutler felt exactly the same, but was having a little more success, would he have come out?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 24, 2011 -> 05:43 PM) He and Urlacher don't even really get along on a personal level and Urlacher was pretty pissed off, offended even, that it was even a topic. Kreutz is pretty much the leader of the offense and he said people were being "f***ing stupid." No one associated with the Bears is even going to give the slightest hint of it being even remotely questionable Cutler could play.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 24, 2011 -> 05:41 PM) pretty much my whole Facebook friends list that was watching the game between about 4:30 and 7 pm EST did this. I believe they were questioning whether he was hurt enough to sit rather than just hurt. It was pretty obvious he had something going on. The guys I was with thought it was a concussion. Earlier he was hit on an incomplete pass and the cameras showed him appearing like he was trying to shake off the cobwebs.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Jan 24, 2011 -> 05:28 PM) People are just predisposed to not liking Cutler. So many people were just waiting for something like this to happen so they can unload. Reading comments, my Facebook news feed, etc. really convinced me of that. I did start to notice the tide moving in the other direction when it started to come out that he was really hurt, though. I don't think many people really questioned whether or not he was hurt, and since I have never sprained my MCL, I couldn't tell you the pain level. But you have to admit, there are many QBs over the years in that same situation that wouldn't have come out of the game, and if Lovie insisted they still would have put up a big fight considering the magnitude of the game etc. It may be the biggest game Jay Cutler ever plays in. If he can't go he can't go. He didn't exactly looked handicapped his last series. But you are right, if Peyton Manning sat out under the same circumstance, no one would question him, but in a way Cutler has only himself to blame for being a guy who would be questioned. Being a douchebag sometimes costs you.