Dick Allen

Hawk talking up Lillibridge. You have to be kidding me.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 09:45 PM) With that contract and his history of inconsistent effort, he still has modest trade value at best IMO. I've been one of the biggest Rios skeptics around, but unless the Sox have some replacement that's not a huge question mark, ie. Jordan Danks, or Mitchell or trying to win a bidding war for a free agent, trading him for prospects unless they are surefire really doesn't make sense., and I agree, I don't believe his value is as high as many think it is for the reasons you mentioned. Tyler Flowers and Jordan Danks performances make this season even a bigger disaster.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 1, 2010 -> 09:39 PM) Ozzie fired, KW takes a President of Baseball Operations type role? I don't see the point of giving KW a role like that. Either you want him making the decisions or you don't. If you don't let him go home.

All the Randy Williams slamming is warranted, and I wasn't in the thread earlier, but seriously what's up with Buehrle? He's been pretty awful for almost a year now.

Another bad start makes Ozzie use his bullpen too much. White Sox starters with the worst ERA in the AL. I thought they were supposed to be one of the greatest rotations ever assembled.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 31, 2010 -> 06:00 PM) Good for Lillibridge if this is true. He's earned it. A 26 year old in his 4th year in AAA hitting .270 with a .331 OBP and 13 errors has earned it? I think it just shows the lack of depth in the White Sox organization. He won't help unless he's used exclusively as a pinch runner.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ May 31, 2010 -> 09:43 AM) I still don't grasp how 2009 was a bad year for Viciedo. How is Viciedo defensively at 1B? I think people really underestimate the amount of errors Konerko has saved White Sox infielders the past couple of seasons. If Konerko leaves and the White Sox have a guy who really can't pick it at 1B, they will definitely need a new 3B and probably SS if Alexei can't get his head out of his ass.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 29, 2010 -> 05:37 PM) Twins score six to blow open game with the Rangers, now 8-2. Well, the positive of that is that the Rangers will become more and more desperate to trade with someone in the next 2 months. They just filed for bankrupcy and their creditors are making plays of their own. It will be interesting to see how long this delays their sale. I would imagine they won't be picking up money until that happens.

QUOTE (chw42 @ May 27, 2010 -> 10:47 AM) Just heard on the Score that D-Wade says the Bulls aren't loyal and that loyalty is important to him because he's a loyal person. He uses Pippen and Jordan not being around the organization as an excuse. Really Dwyane? Really? Maybe M.J. could have been a little more loyal and not have retired at age 34 and then come back three years later to another team. Maybe you shouldn't call yourself loyal because you're obviously not the cleanest guy around when it comes to marriage. If Wade is so loyal, how come he hasn't re-signed with Miami yet?

Just when you think Freddy's smoke and mirrors act may have run its course, he comes up big.

QUOTE (SouthsideDon48 @ May 28, 2010 -> 04:44 PM) I totally agree with you. It really bugs me how he's shaking off AJ as well. Maybe he's making bad pitch choices, but I'd rather have a pitcher throw the pitch he wants to throw rather than throw what the catcher asks for if he truly isn't in to throwing it in that situation.

QUOTE (chw42 @ May 28, 2010 -> 07:02 PM) Lack of playing time might do that for you... And playing like he's playing leads to a lack of playing time. He's a reserve. Fair or not, he needs to make the most of his opportunities or he'll wind up playing softball with Eric Byrnes, except he doesn't have the bank to fall back on that Byrnes does.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ May 27, 2010 -> 08:52 PM) spoke too soon. Danks delivered his whiff. He'll fit right in. Yeah, I was going to say you can cancel the postgame show. At least Flowers has fanned 3 times tonight. Its really scary how much the Sox propped those two up and how awful they are hitting. I really hope Gary Ward is not in their ears.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ May 27, 2010 -> 08:34 PM) Agreed. Easily the worst ad campaign in the last few years. Yeah I always wondered if Hawk wrote some of the commercials. "When you join the White Sox, you don't join a team, you join a mindset." Then they go on and speak about the White Sox organization like they have had a Yankee like history. That's so Hawk.

Flowers and Jordan Danks have only added to the misery of this season. Hopefully they can turn it around and amount to something. Danks 2 I've always had my doubts about, but I thought Flowers had a great chance to be a decent hitter, maybe a Mickey Tettleton type. He has some work to do.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ May 27, 2010 -> 08:26 PM) Jenks? Lol? His ERA is over 6. You must be thinking this is 2006 again. EDIT: I'm ASSUMING now that you meant DANKS, cause JENKS is g.a.r.b.a.g.e. Danks is what I meant. Jenks would have a low ERA if he got to face Jordan Danks all the time.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 27, 2010 -> 08:24 PM) He's been playing 1B for quite a bit now. In fact.. he's playing 1B as we speak for Charlotte. I read some boxscores last week and they claimed he was at 3b.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 27, 2010 -> 08:24 PM) When Ozzie puts Linebrink in during a close game, is he conceding the game? I believe only Santos, Thornton and Jenks have lower ERA's than Linebrink coming into today's game.

Its interesting Viciedo moved back to 3B in Charlotte. Wasn't he playing first? I think KW knows this Teahen thing isn't going to improve much.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ May 27, 2010 -> 07:50 PM) Well Flowers is doing awful, that's not what I was implying, but I Tyler had a good April, I really wonder how much of that has to do with the organization telling him to change his swing. They told him to change his swing? Was it Gary Ward? Aaron Rowand is on record saying Ward cost him 2 years in the big leagues messing with his swing.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ May 27, 2010 -> 07:38 PM) AJ having a brutal game. They need to call up Flowers, he's hitting about .130 in May, and has 49ks in 130 AB. The good news is Jordan Danks has batted twice tonight without striking out.

Obama must be in Chicago a couple helicopters just flew over heading south down the lakeshore.

QUOTE (ptatc @ May 26, 2010 -> 06:33 PM) I disagree. When it really comes down to it the only thing that matters is winning. Granted if Bobby keeps up his performances the odds are that he will lose more games. I couldn't care less about the stats he puts up as long as they win. I know if had this discussion about starting pitchers as well but all I care about is the win. It's like managing people. Do you give your group a goal and then micromanage them and check on the progress hourly or do you let them do what they need to do to accomplish the goal. I for one don't care how they do it as long as the job gets done. Again, if he starts losing the games the situation changes. Shingo Takatsu was 8 for 9 in save opps. with lower ERA than Jenks when he was replaced and eventually released. Its not micro managing. You consider yourself lucky he hasn't cost you more games and replace him in this critical role. Its a pre-emptive move. Why wait for the coming disaster if you have a chance to avoid it? Its not like you are firing him. He gets a different role and instead of just being annointed closer based on what he did 2 or 3 years ago he has to earn it again. The White Sox are getting to the point they cannot lose games they are supposed to win. You can't just say the White Sox won today, so everyone did fine. Tomorrow is a different day. Jenks has had too many days when he's been absolutely terrible to be considered a top closer right now. The White Sox have tons of options in their bullpen. Its time to make a change. Bobby will have a new role. If he shows he's up for a return to the closer's role eventually great, but right now, he has to give up the 9th. I do agree a win is a win. I don't think Jenks' implosion will have any carry over, just like I thought Jose Paniagua's appearance in 2003 in a White Sox win, wasn't the thing that cost the White Sox a playoff spot like some believe.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 25, 2010 -> 06:48 PM) Wtf. Peavy f***ing blows. What a s***ty season he's having. Its Don Cooper's fault. Players cannot be blamed for poor performance. Only coaches.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ May 23, 2010 -> 04:49 PM) That was a real beat down today. But, I see Doc Halladay got beat up bad by the Bosox so I guess you can't be mad at Freddie. Only his second bad outing this year. I look at it like at least they didn't waste a nice offensive performance or a great pitching performance. Its nice they didn't score 10 runs and lose or have Freddy pitch a gem and lose 1-0.