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QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 03:38 PM) Then he'll sign another one-year deal... You think the guy is going to sign some 5-year $25 million deal? Yeah right. It looks like Garland is looking at 2 years for $13-14 million total.

They are finally replacing the out of town scoreboard. Maybe that is it.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 04:17 PM) Random question... who is the best FA left available who can play CF at least competently? There has been a lot of talk about Orlando Hudson as a CF. Steve Stone mentioned it months ago. I've seen him linked to the Yankees as a CF as well. I would prefer someone who has spent time out there though.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 04:02 PM) If he gets to the nagging leg injury point then I'll totally agree with you. I can't speak to that. But I think he'll certainly better Pods's 2004 batting number except for the HR category if you give him the whole season and he does stay healthy. On the latter part, no idea. On Aug. 31,2007, Jerry Owens was hitting .239 with a .296 OBP with zero power. He then shined, like Juan Uribe shined in Sept. 07. He isn't very good.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 03:33 PM) I think if he were to sign a deal like that it would be a one-year deal. These guys who get lowballed aren't going to sign multi-year deals...they'll sign one-year deals and wait it out until the economy betters itself... Chances are, next year it will be worse.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 03:24 PM) In 2004, the year before we traded for him, his 2nd full big league season, Scott Podsednik hit .244 with a .313 OBP. He had great steal #'s, stole 70, but only had an OPS+ of 75. If he's not injured, Jerry Owens ought to be able to put up equal (SB) or better (OBP, BA) numbers in most categories other than the couple HR's Podsednik hit that year. Pods had a great 2003 but as a "Proven leadoff hitter" or whatever we're looking for, he was brutal in 2004. As much as I really didn't like Pods, Owens won't match Pods bad 2004. First off, he may be entering the period where he gets nagging leg injuries. He hits with no power. He will never steal 70 bases. He's below average in CF and his numbers in 2007 are based on a .340 BA in September of that year, and even then hit .267 with a .324 OBP. Juan Uribe hit .309 that same month with a .358 OBP and an .884 OBP.

QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 03:17 PM) I've always thought speed was overrated and no way see it as being essential in any spot in the lineup, I'd take a player with a high OBP and no speed over a player with a low OBP and lots of speed any day. Lineup construction is interesting to think about though and just recently I finished reading Tom Tango (and others') The Book and there's a chapter devoted to lineup construction, from their research they came to the conclusion that the optimal lineup would be set out as follows: 1. Your best three hitters hit in the 1, 2 and 4 holes with your best hitter batting 4th, second best hitter batting 2nd and third best hitter (or a hitter with high OBP) batting 1st. 2. Your fourth and fifth best hitter bat 3rd and 5th, with the fourth best hitter batting 5th and the fifth best hitter batting 3rd. 3. The rest of your hitters bat, in order from best to worst, in the 6-9 holes. So based on that our optimal lineup last season would have been: 1. Konerko 2. Thome 3. Alexei 4. Quentin 5. Dye 6. Crede (when healthy) 7. Swisher 8. A.J. 9. Cabrera 9b. Uribe (when Crede wasn't healthy, moving everyone else up one spot). Obviously this lineup would go against all conventional thinking and I'm not saying this is how I would construct my lineup but it is interesting to think about. I think SB are overrated and speed is underrated although not at the expense of BA and OBP. As we have seen the last couple of years not being able to advance an extra base on a hit or a flyball has cost the White Sox a lot of runs and probably several wins.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 03:10 PM) I honestly thought for a moment that they were not there. Did not realize they were attending. But honestly, what's there to complain about? 8/10 of the top players on the roster will be there. I guess you must be b****ing about former players not really attending. Out of all the years I attended I never noticed too many former players. This years roster seems as good as most years. It's the organization of the even I'm worried about. The Twins had every member of their 40 man roster attend their fest. It could be a nice thing for players guaranteed to make millions in this economy to make an effort and take a weekend and devote it to the fans. AJP won't be there because he's too busy going to the Super Bowl. I like AJ, but that is BS.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 02:39 PM) Can you define who a "real leadoff" hitter would be? And how does Kenny go about acquiring this "real leadoff" hitter? A real leadoff hitter is a guy like Roberts, or not that I'm advocating it, a guy like Pods when he was in Milwaukee. Someone who has spent time leading off in the major leagues and has been successful. He goes about it by either paying them some money if a free agent or trading players, supposedly he is now loaded with talent both major league and minor league according to this board. Not some guy like Swisher or Cabrera or Erstad. Guys who either have never led off, or really aren't equipped to do so, or are way past the time they would have be effective in that role. Not a guy like Getz. Jerry Owens is a fake leadoff man, and unfortunately it looks like I will be shocked and he will be leading off opening day. I hope Hudson is still being considered.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 10:38 AM) this is also where I think speed is essential. Even if a guy gets on base at a good rate, will it take 3 consecutive hits to score him? This is a problem that results in "lack of hitting in the clutch." If this same player can score from first on a double, this team will have a more diverse and effective offense. It doesn't need to be the leadoff hitter but one of the players in the 1 or 2 position needs to have speed, because once it's JD, Thome and Konerko come up, it will take a HR or three hits to score them. Exactly. The more often guys are in scoring position for those 3, the more runs the White Sox are going to score, especially if they can run a little bit.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 27, 2009 -> 10:02 AM) There are 9 (or more) innings where you need table setters, and after the first one, its all a crapshoot as to who leads off. You are talking about a single event in any given game, then its just as likely as all other combinations after that. Yes, you should structure your lineup to get the first inning set in a good way, and also set your lineup to get high numbers of at bats for your best hitters. But its such a small thing (who leads off int he first inning), that I think if you try to dictate your talent search based on that, and trying to fit them into a position on the field as well, you end up causing yourself problems. Now, once in a while, you have the opportunity to pick up someone for a position you need filled AND one that isn't a table-clearing position AND that person is an ideal leadoff hitter (high OBP, some speed). That certainly has value. But if you look at the Sox now, the only leadoff-like hitter available to them is Jerry Owens. Do you choose Owens over a better player because Owens has speed? That's the constraints you are working under. So no, a leadoff hitter isn't important enough to effect your talent search in a big way. Its a nice-to-have. While I agree a leadoff hitter is only guaranteed to leadoff once a game, you want guys who have a tendancy to get on base more than average hitting in front of your better hitters who can drive them in, and they usually are in the middle of the line-up. I will still be in shock if KW doesn't acquire a real leadoff hitter.

QUOTE (watchtower41 @ Jan 23, 2009 -> 04:56 PM) I think what you said here is even more evident with reading this article than the way he conducted his show. He was always meant to be the cocky one, but somewhat reserved. In the article however, it sounds like he would have quit if he would not have been fired.... sorry Mac, I don't buy it. He wouldn't have quit because he would have stopped getting paid. Getting paid to do nothing is pretty nice, especially if its for about 6 months and will net you $300k.

Looks like interest isn't waning. From the Tribune: White Sox representatives say a small number of hotel packages and three-day (with hotel reservations) and two-day passes are available for SoxFest this weekend. Friday night is exclusive for Palmer House Hilton guests. Single-day passes for Saturday and Sunday are sold out. Hotel rooms can be booked online through Tuesday. The White Sox say the number of hotel rooms and weekend passes has been increased and they expect to at least match 2008's attendance.

From Gammons: Essentially Randy Wolf, Jon Garland and Braden Looper are getting similar offers in the range of $5 million per year (plus options and incentives). As of Friday, Wolf was not close to reaching a deal with any team.

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QUOTE (klaus kinski @ Jan 23, 2009 -> 03:28 PM) yeah, we hear this AFTER the last ticket payment All Winter I think about the Kosher Dog-drowned in Onions with mustard. Now its gone-poo This has been known for quite some time.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jan 23, 2009 -> 03:16 PM) He's giving a news conference right now. This guy is perhaps the most bizarre politican I have ever seen, and that's REALLY saying something with all of the loonies in that line of work. He's lost his mind. Supposedly when they were arresting him initially and talking to him, he was alternating running in place and laying down in the fetal position.

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Crane Kennedy was talking about the food being bad. What was keeping the Tribune Company from improving it?

Crane Kennedy admits Wrigley Field is a dump: "That's one part of it, and the other parts of it are fan amenities. Our mezzanine suites, we don't even call them luxury suites anymore because they're neither luxury, nor suites. We call them skyboxes. We all know the washroom situation is unacceptable. The concession, the quality of the food—we rank at the bottom.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 23, 2009 -> 10:02 AM) I apologize, dear Sir Dick Allen, for posting a thread. I don't believe I've ever had a comment negative or positive on Keith Law... however, I will make sure to run it by you before posting what seems like interesting writeups of three of our young players or anything else for that matter. I bow to your forum greatness. I'm not picking on you, but when this thread has run its course, do a search on Keith Law threads and you will find that some of the same people who call him a worthless wannabe who isn't qualified to be paid for his opinions when he says something negative about the Sox will be excited about the optimism he has for these prospects.

Why is it Keith Law, if he ever says anything negative about the White Sox organization, knows nothing, but everytime he says something positive, there's a thread acting like he is an excellent source?

I read where Freddy has a chance to earn $8-9 million with incentives, so even though they gave him a minor league deal, and considering the White Sox guaranteed Colon $1 million with $2 million in incentives, if he was going to be useful at all, the Mets were probably offering a ton more cash.

Jay-bird had a different take 11 years ago: Great Chase Turns Into Great Debate By Ross Newhan August 25, 1998 in print edition C-1 No one knows Mark McGwire’s body better than Jay McGwire, his 28-year-old younger brother and a physical trainer who works at a fitness facility in Chino Hills. The McGwires, often mistaken for twins, lived together in Northern California while Mark recovered from the heel and lower back injuries that sidelined him for virtually the entire 1993 and ‘94 seasons, and it was Jay, into bodybuilding since high school, who helped redesign the supplement-aided weightlifting program that helped his brother return bigger and better than ever. That program also has become a subject of debate in the last week as the St. Louis Cardinal first baseman wages a riveting home run duel with Sammy Sosa of the Chicago Cubs and closes in on Roger Maris’ record of 61 homers. The debate stems from McGwire’s recent confirmation that he uses androstenedione, thought to be a naturally occurring testosterone booster that is sold over the counter as a dietary supplement. It is legal in baseball but banned by the NFL, NCAA and International Olympic Committee. All consider it to have steroid qualities, putting it in the class of performance-enhancing and potentially dangerous anabolic steroids, which have been linked to coronary disease, cancer, liver dysfunction and severe mood and mental disorders. What it is and what it isn’t is as much a part of the debate as McGwire’s open use of it. For instance, Michael Mellman, the Dodgers’ team doctor, said he doesn’t recommend androstenedione or anything like it. “If I don’t know that it will help and I can’t assure it won’t hurt, then I’m not going to recommend that a player use it,” he said. “It comes out of a poorly regulated industry in which there is no required testing for safety and efficacy.” Said a high ranking baseball official: “I’ve been on the phone to medical people for the better part of the last two days. One says we have a problem [by not banning androstenedione and similar substances] and the next says we don’t. We certainly didn’t need this at this time, but at the least we’re going to take a harder look at it in conjunction with the players union, and that machinery is being put in place now.” McGwire has used androstenedione for more than a year, and several other protein and amino acid-type supplements, including creatine, for four years. Jay McGwire, who said he has used similar supplements since he was in high school without any physical ramifications, put his brother on the program during the injury-marred 1993 and ‘94 seasons. In no way, the younger McGwire said, does androstenedione directly enhance McGwire’s performance on the field. In no way, he said, is he cheating. “It has nothing to do with his swing,” Jay McGwire said. “The only thing he gets out of it is enhanced tissue recovery. Weightlifting tears down tissue. This allows him to recover more quickly. It allows him to work out six times a week instead of four. “Mark had lifted before he got hurt [in ‘93], but not correctly. We put him on a program strengthening his legs and abs, not just his upper body. We worked at increasing his flexibility. He’s bigger and quicker now. He has phenomenal bat speed, range of motion.” If there are some attempting to discredit his three consecutive seasons of 50 or more home runs as a product of testosterone and performance-enhancers, how do they explain the 49 homers he hit as a rookie or the 39 in 1990 or the 42 in 1992? McGwire was already averaging 36 homers a year before injuring his heel in 1993. “This should be the greatest time in his life,” Jay McGwire said. “So many people come up to me every day to say that he’s creating so much joy and excitement for them. But then there’s these other people who just want to bring him down. “I mean, Mark takes so much pride in his body and is so worried about what people think of him that he would never do anything to damage his health or image. The key to anything is moderation, but that’s not to say he’s taking steroids because he isn’t. “I don’t know why the NFL and IOC have banned these products. We’re fortunate to be in a time when we know so much more about nutrition and have these supplements available to help us achieve our goals.” Brotherly love is understandable, but Dr. Gary Wadler, a supplement authority and associate professor of medicine at NYU, was reached at his Long Island office and said it would be foolish to “delude anyone that this is an innocuous substance.” “As a hormonal-related testosterone precursor it carries all the components of an anabolic steroid,” he said. “An anabolic steroid, used in conjunction with a strength program, can definitely enhance performance where strength is important but carries serious health risks.” He added that the disturbing aspect is that McGwire and others have basically authored a contract with the devil by tempting all the “wannabes” to use these supplements and he bemoaned the absence of government regulation in a $6-billion industry climbing toward $12 billion. “The government considers testosterone a controlled substance and requires a triplicate prescription to acquire it, but here you have an over-the-counter product that turns into a controlled substance [by elevating testosterone levels],” Wadler said. “That’s schizophrenic. It’s just so dangerous to allow these precursors to be sold over the counter without having to prove the safety and efficacy.” Androstenedione was a favorite of the former East German sports machine. It was used in a more potent nasal spray then. Now it is taken orally. The positive test it can produce is difficult to differentiate from the banned steroids, a significant reason that it too, is banned by the IOC and others as a related substance. Patrick Arnold helped introduce and market the capsule form as president of Seymour Bio-Organics of Seymour, Ill. He said in reasonable dosages it creates a very “transitory and mild testosterone increase of about 30% on average for two or three hours” and is virtually impossible to abuse because of the body’s own fail-safe system. “It doesn’t build muscle over the long term, but can it increase concentration and strength in a given performance? It’s never been proven, but that’s what we hope,” Arnold said. “It’s a very safe way of performance enhancement. I mean, let’s face it. Drinking a cup of coffee can enhance performance, and I would say this is just as safe.” So, apparently, would the brothers McGwire.