Dick Allen

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 05:03 PM) In 533 abs, Crede's highest BB total was 56. (aa) In 477 abs, Fields' highest was 55 (aa) (462 the next season in aaa, 54) Crede also K'd alot with more baseball experience. There's no doubt in my mind who will be the better offensive player/potential is/will be. The most Crede k'd in a season is 81 times. If Fields plays every day, he can cut his k's down 20% and still double that.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 04:57 PM) Dont you mean 2003 when he actually got more than 50 games and 200 ab's? No 2002. 200 ABs. That would have been plenty of MLB at bats for you to form your opinion. It only took 2 appearances for you to hop on the Lance Broadway bandwagon, and you appear to be high on Ramirez with about 40 spring training at bats.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 04:55 PM) well then lets be fair and point out the fact that credes obp last year was .259....if you really think fields will end up with a .308 career obp than i agree with you...gimme crede, especially considering the defense and lower ks....but ill be willing to bet you that fields ends up with an obp for his career at least .030 higher than crede You can't judge Crede on last year's numbers. That would be like judging Frank Thomas on 2001

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 04:54 PM) Crede has had a career of those numbers, Fields hasnt even had an entire season and has replicated them, he had nowhere to go but up, we already know what Crede does. Would you have had the same opinion about Crede in 2002? That he had nowhere to go but up?

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 04:52 PM) Adam Dunn says hi. Adam Dunn gets on base at a much higher clip than .308.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 04:48 PM) Ha and Crede's career is an awesome .304 but do go on. I will go on. I never said Crede was perfect, but you guys go on and on about Fields. The only thing he's shown he can do on the major league level is hit homers. He's not an OBP machine, you give him credit for having more walks than Joe Crede. What's so impressive about that?If Crede sucks like I've read numerous times, Fields must suck as well. I've never said Fields sucks, but my opinion is he's Ron Kittle Jr. offensively.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 04:46 PM) over the course of the season.....in the 50 times a guy like crede puts the ball in play for outs more than fields roughly 2 will cause errors (assuming .960 flding %)...the moving runners thing...yeah how many times over the course of the season will crede get the job done when fields wont? 5? besides the stats we are looking at dont adequately even reflect that because we dont know how each batter fared in those specific situations... its my opinion that the 30 extra walks are quite a bit more valuable than those few extra times the opposition makes an error or the guy is moved over Fields OBP was .308 last year. Crede's career is .305. I think the 100 fewer strikeouts Crede would provide would more than make up for that .003 loss of OBP.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 04:45 PM) Hey, nice play Josh! He's not awful defensively. He makes some nice plays. He is prone to blow easy ones.

Quentin has been the forgotten man this spring.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 04:33 PM) yeah....explain why thats bad Because strikeouts don't move runners. Strikeouts don't make fielders field the ball and cause errors.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 04:16 PM) N yet, people here still got on him for his K rate. Yes, because his OBP was still only .308

QUOTE(daa84 @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 04:15 PM) in 100 games last year he walked 1 more time than crede has in any full year of credes career He also struck out 44 more times than Crede's career high in k's.

Doesn't Bochy have the largest head in baseball?

Now DJ is talking about Floyd being "unhittable" in the AZ Fall league a couple of years ago. His 5+ ERA there would suggest otherwise.

I was watching the WS DVD this morning. AJ's jowels have shrunk considerably.

QUOTE(fathom @ Mar 21, 2008 -> 03:20 PM) I really can't believe KW didn't acquire another starting pitcher this offseason. I was shocked myself. If Floyd and Danks are as good as he thinks, then they should give him a lifetime contract. If not, I hope those that give him all the credit for what goes right, and blame someone else for things that go wrong, take notice.

One of the many things that bother me about Floyd is you look at him on the mound and he looks like he's about to hurl, and I don't mean pitch.

That first trip into Detroit is going to be a good measuring stick as the Sox will face Robertson, Willis and Verlander. 2 lefties and a stud.

Ramirez has been impressive the couple of times I have seen him this spring, but I think realistically when the games count, he's more Pablo Ozuna at this point than Alfonso Soriano which really isn't too bad. He gets some more strength and who knows. Its a nice gamble considering they really didn't throw out too much cash.

QUOTE(TheBigHurt @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 10:08 PM) Um, how is my disappointment that the Sox lost 4.5 million on him based on his DFA b****ing and moaning about Uribe being on the team? It's the OPPOSITE, and I think that should be clear as day to see. A stupid comment indeed. He wasn't DFA'd. In fact, if the report today is true, and somebody claimed him, KW didn't want to give him away and save the money. He wants a player back.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 05:23 PM) Uribe is in the game line up on Thursday. According to Cowley's blog, Uribe has been pulled off waivers. He also said a trade may be in the works, but it may have fallen apart. Nice reporting Joe.

Should and would are very different. He wouldn't open his books. And he shouldn't open his books. What the White Sox make or don't make is really nobody's business but the shareholders.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 10:47 AM) The sox were so sour on him, that they traded their top trading chip and picked up his replacement. If they were so sour on him, they would never have re-signed him, but ignore the facts, back to your Uribe weight bashing.

How does everyone know Ramirez isn't the same way?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Mar 20, 2008 -> 07:30 AM) I hate to say it, but it makes sense. Might as well see who wants him. He's played well this spring. If there ever was a time from when he was signed until now when someone would be willing to take the entire contract, you have to figure now is the time.