Dick Allen

But the re was an upper deck blocking more than half that view including the tops of the buildings which you would need to see for a skyline view.I tried to attach a photo of what you are talking about but it’s too big. There is no way you saw what you claimed. If you sat way up in the upper deck, you would have had a little skyline. Not stunning, but enough to whet your appetite. For the lower deck there is no way you would be able to see 200 feet in the air from those openings, especially from the first base side. Take off the upper 2/3 s of this photo and you will have what you might have been able to see. And that isn’t very impressive.

There is no way you saw the skyline through those .

1.6 million more people live in the Chicago area than when JR threatened to leave last time. There is no way the will abandon Chicago and leave it a one team town. See if JR delays the managerial decsion. If he doesn’t, the whole thing is BS. It’s funny how the secretive JR wants everyone to know he is talking selling.

So let me get this straight. They are thinking of selling, but hiring a new manager, and apparently are confident the new owner would be good with Getz making decisions. It’s all BS, but it is fun to discuss.

Yeah I read the inner TV antennas most likely won’t work

2005 everything went right. That was his model. It was the one year it totally worked. He should get credit. I understand your point, but if we can blast him for all his failures, you have to give him credit for the one year he got it right. The one issue with that was it seemed to have convinced him, his way is the only way. And we have all paid for it since.

They said last time the Sox needed a new park the park they had was falling apart and dangerous to be in. They wouldn’t dare say the same thing now. Plus teams that have moved have had many many years of ballpark battles. This fight just started. Publicly funded stadiums were a thing for a while, but not anymore. Several years before that, they were moving to Seattle before Bill Veeck saved the day. There was talk Charlie Finley would have moved the As to the south side.. I it was a different era then. Attendance was what it all was about. While still important, not nearly as much as it was back then. It’s very hard to move in MLB.

That was almost 40: years ago, and what would have happened if JR moved to Tampa? He have moved again. Not moving was the best thing that ever happened to JR. Back then even he admitted moving would have most likely led him to sell the Bulls. He would probably be universally known as the one of the worst sports owners in history. If you read up on Stewart’s group, they plan to privately fund a stadium. Not many think they have the money. Who in their right mind would move a business whose model is basically built on broadcast revenue move from Chicago to Nashville? At the very least, people who buy these team usually have egos, and it’s pretty obvious the White Sox have been poorly run for years. They see a cash cow if operated correctly. It’s just like real estate. The 3 most important things are location, location, location.

They aren't moving. Chicago isn't Oakland,or Montreal.

yeah, theres a ESPN documentary on it. It's pretty good. I think its on youtube.

It's the 3rd largest media market in the country. And they don't want to leave it all to the Cubs. There is not much of a chance they will abandon it. It's not lost on other owners how bad JR has messed up his team.

An article I read said Stewart's group was planning on building a privately funded ballpark in Nashville.

It's mind blowing.

I love the we don't comment on rumors and speculation when they are the ones who leaked the info. They take us all for fools. The fact that he is "negotiating" strickly with Stewart's group shows you he isn't serious. It's a political play.Call the bluff.

Considering JR doesn't like dealing with the press, isn't this a suspicious leak? And to Dave Stewart, the guy JR was supposedly putting on a pedestal to the mayor of Nashville less than a year ago. JR said he would never move the team, but if he died, his son would owe his invertors. IMO, just another PR stunt that will blow up in JR's face. He just looks like a bigger ass now.

LOL.

Dave Stewart is the guy leading the charge on an expansion team in Nashville. To me, this is a plant to try to force public opinion and politicians. Call his bluff.

I'm guessing part of the Pedro hire was the price tag. Most of the guys on the list, JR is going to have to pay a little more for.

Of course. He will run this desire for a new stadium like he runs his teams. Like it’s still the 80s. But things are a lot different. They don’t “need” a new stadium. Now people know this isn’t a big money maker for the city or state, no matter how they spin it. If it was, they would build it themselves and pocket all the cash. And his sweetheart lease he isn’t getting again. I would do his lease the opposite way. The more they draw, the more they win, the less they pay.

I think JR is SOL as long as JB is governor. He can probably be governor as long as he wants, but seems to have higher aspirations, caving to an 88 year old billionaire and giving his heirs free money when they sell, would probably kill any of those thoughts.

Do you go antiquing?

I mentioned many years ago there were blueprints made concerning developing some of the parking lots with bars and restaurants. JR wanted nothing to do with it. He eventually partially relented and we got the ChiSox Bar and Grill where he gets all the money and the gift shop. He doesn’t want anything around there unless he has access to the cash register.

That's the other thing. He's playing Dejong and Lopez and Pham....and letting the young guys rot. He wasn't playing for 110 losses. That was one of the many BS parts of what he and JR have to say.

That is what he told us. Being better than a 101 loss team isn't a high bar. Getz fell over 20 games short. That's a lot. That's the difference between a 100 win team, and a below .500 team. Getz himself mentioned the AL Central as not being a particularly strong division.

The problem is, Getz took over a 101 loss team that JR told us would be better. Granted he said he didn't know how much better, but it was 20 games worse, and set a record for losses. It is absolutely disgusting. There are plenty of organizations, the ones where winning and not kissing the ring of the owner takes precedence, where, yes Getz wouldn't have been hired in the first place, but since he was, he would be gone. It shouldn't take long to find out if someone is in over their head. The Bears didn't need 5 years to know Trestman and Emery were junk, and they aren't exactly known as a team where winning is the only focus. If you suck, you suck. Getz sucks. To me, not recognizing it is the same as keeping RH and KW around so long. He has shown you what he is. Unfortunately, that is a hack. He did something no other GM has ever been bad enough to accomplish, and say what you want, he wasn't trying to lose that many games.