Dick Allen

QUOTE (shipps @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 12:56 PM) How the hell did you get this tweet and post it to soxtalk within about 30 seconds of him posting it? LOL He must work at Jimmy John's.

QUOTE (ecupittfan @ Dec 27, 2016 -> 12:41 PM) What contending team is going to give up any decent prospect for Gardner or Headley? They have little value at that salary for the next 2 years. Its 2 average aging players on bad contracts. You have to give them away to be rid of the contracts. The Padres took a ton of Shields salary to get rid of him, if the Yanks just get rid of those guys and have to pay nothing they are happy. You are not going to send them to a bad team and get something in return as they have no use for them and don't want to give up prospects. That isn't the point. They may give up something for them or nothing at all. It is being implied here, the Yankees would give up even more prospects to get them off their hands. It isn't happening.

If she was truly without a pulse for 15 minutes, you would have to think she had tremendous brain damage and it probably would have been a miracle had she recovered.

I really doubt the Yankees adding another stud prospect would be determined by taking back Headley or Gardner. I can see taking back Headley or Gardner to make the deal work being a requirement, but it wouldn't be the the difference between acquiring Torres or Frazier and Torres and Frazier.

Only 1 can be the best, and here it is:

Michael Carter Williams the 4th or 5th guy off the bench? What a great time to be alive.

Frazier looks like a Wii character.

If you get money back does that mean that what you get back does not count against the luxury limit? The problem the Yankees have with Robertson is if they go over the threshold, his salary in essence is quite a bit more than they are paying him.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Dec 26, 2016 -> 08:35 AM) Yes, the Bulls would have to take back salary. And who cares? You're an 8th seed with butler. Take back some bad contracts to make it work and set yourself up for 5-7 years. It not that simple. They would have to take a lot of salary back and Boston is one team without a lot of wasted salary. The plan for the Bulls seems obvious. They are paying Wade to recruit someone next season. And hope he has enough legs left so they can have a big 3. They can't be delusional enough to think they had any shot this year. Hopefully they get Sacrementos pick. But unless a miracle happens and they somehow get Curry or Griffin, which IMO, is delusional, this was just to entertain their ticket holders a couple of years before they really suck again for 4 or 5 years unless there is another Lebron or Jordan they can draft.

I don't think that trade is possible with a little thing called the salary cap.

There is no reason the White Sox should take on money. If they had to get rid of him and the Pirates were the only option, then maybe, but not now. You wouldn't sell your house at a discount to the first person who looked at it because you want to fit it in their budget. The White Sox leak about as little information as any team in baseball. Trade talk with Q would eventually become a huge distraction, if it carried on into the season. That could really effect his performance and value, so IMO, they must be of the belief something is going to happen pretty soon leaking this 3 team stuff.

Barkley in the last 7 + quarters has 2 fewer turnovers than the Bears defense has caused all season.

Barkley 7 INTs and a fumble the last 2 games. Almost a quarter to go to add on. He is lucky he doesn't have a couple of more today.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 06:27 PM) If a trade happens tonight, it would qualify as a Festivus Miracle. Not looking good. They probably shut it down early to get ready for the feats of strength.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 03:32 PM) I know it's not in Jerry's nature, but wouldn't it make sense to pick up some of Q's money to extract more value from the Pirates? Then you can let Cutch regain value during the season, trade him at the deadline, and move Meadows in. Sox could ask for Glasnow, Bell, and Newman. It would be ridiculous, but they already are having a tough time coming up with the correct package if they are getting other teams involved, so I don't see where they would be willing to give up more.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 03:22 PM) Most teams have a budget set by the owner or ownership group. The GM can only work with the resources given. I understand that but the owner got into it with a fan just in the past week because the fan said he was more concerned about the bottom line than winning. Adding a $6 or $7 million salary is hardly a franchise killer. If they have to trade the face of their franchise to add a guy who is paid like a 4th or 5th starter, they aren't committed to winning. Once this window closes, they might regret that.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 02:54 PM) Hard enough to analyze the Sox...don't ask me to critique the Buccos. I just think operating like they are operating isn't going to lead to wins. It's as half assed as anything the White Sox have done.

QUOTE (ptatc @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 02:48 PM) So this goes back to the "who is worth more." It looks like they made those moves with the plan of trading McCutchen. Would you rather have: Hudson Nova Quintana Meadows in CF or McCutchen Is Meadows really ready? I just think if your Pittsburgh, your chances to win have been so few and far between, risking losing $6 or $7 million on a season (assuming right now they are OK financially at break even) is a small price to pay to take your shot. You never really know when you might have one again. Their fanbase is beaten down. At their fan fest someone got into it with their owner about winning vs. making profit. They are pretty much like cynical Sox fans at this point thinking the team is unwilling to take the final necessary step. I would imagine a trade for Q even though he is not a matinee idol player, would generate some ticket sales due to people thinking maybe the Pittsburgh FO has changed its MO.

According to Forbes, the Pirates turned a $35 million profit in 2015, and according to B-R, they dropped payroll about 20% in 2016.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 02:29 PM) I feel so bad for Pirates fans. What a joke. Totally. Q makes $6 or $7 million next year. Ridiculous.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 01:39 PM) Pirates may very well believe that Meadows will be better than Cutch next year and this is an "anything to keep Meadows" move. If they can't, maybe they move on to dealing Meadows with it. ... (maybe white sox are trying to sabotage deal) Meadows is a great prospect. I would love for the Sox to get him, but thinking he is one of the answers to a playoff team in 2017 is half assing 101. I don't blame them for not trading Meadows, I understand the appeal, but their window is short, they need a Cutch bounce back not a Cutch trade at a bargain rate. .

The Pirates best chance of winning the next 2 seasons would involve trading for Q and hanging on to and hoping for a bounce back from Cutch. Anything else is just maximum effort half assing.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 12:43 PM) I'm glad I was young when Joe Borchard busted. I don't know I could handle watching a guy hit a .900 ops in charlotte, then decline every year after and look more and more broken. Edit: Well I guess I lived it more with Beckham. I was sitting right behind home plate when Borchard hit one on the concourse against the Phillies in a rainout make up game. It was glorious.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 12:32 PM) Nardi will break em, Coop'll fix em Back then they had incredible offense and crappy pitching. The line up they trotted out for the 2000 playoffs had 1 player with a lower OPS than .810 on the season. Then, they couldn't score.

Back in the day when the Sox were ranked the #1 farm system, Jon Rauch was going to be a right handed Randy Johnson, and Jon Garland was the second coming of Kevin Brown. Garland had a decent career, Rauch was a journeyman maybe due to a labrum issue. They must of come up with ways to strengthen the labrum area. There aren't nearly the amount of tears that were happening in the early to mid 2000s.