Dick Allen

It's funny now it's Robin letting him run amuck. It was only a couple of years ago people were afraid Robin would run him away for having a yelling argument with him. Like was said, it doesn't matter who the manager is Sale is the one at fault. What he did was nuts. If someone gave me 100,000 guesses I would never have guessed that. That said, suspending him was going overboard on the other side of the boat. Keep in mind, with Sale, you are going to have to live with some of this. Part of success is the fire that burns inside. He has these incidents, but other than that there is nothing out there that says he's a bad teammate or a bad guy. He does something like this, you shrug your shoulders and move on. Something else will happen at some point, whether he's playing for the White Sox and Robin Ventura, or the Yankees and Joe Girardi, or the Cubs and Joe Maddon, or Boston and John Ferrell. Sometimes you have to take the bad with the good and deal with it. Yes, this particular incident was about as ridiculous as could be, but he didn't beat a woman. He didn't drive drunk. He didn't take PEDs, he didn't fight a teammate. The reality is, those are all far worse.

There is some trading deadline mega bong hits going on here. Kolek for Gonzalez, now Shields, the guy who at one time should have cost RH his job, and the guy who should have been released no matter how much they owed him, doesn't have a bad contract and could net a decent return. I imagine the Sox will do something, but I think those thinking they are about to delete half their roster and get about 20 prospects with half of them in the top 50 are going to be disappointed.

This is reminding me of last year when Rick Hahn was a genius until the moves didn't work out, then it was all KW's fault. Now Sale is an idiot, must be traded...until he said it's Robin's fault. Then, you know Sale really didn't do anything any sane person would have done if his manager told him he had to wear the uniform the team put out.

QUOTE (Green Line @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 10:41 PM) We're ahead of the Royals now, somehow... Caulfield needs a wellness check.

They may suck, but this team never packs it in.

Nice. A victory tomorrow clinches the Cup. Keep the Cup

3 walk off wins in 2 days

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 10:23 PM) Cause the story makes it look like they flat out ignored the request of Sale days, if not longer in advance. Did he handle it well? Hell no, but he has a point You are being ridiculous. He freaked out. Then the Sox freaked out. But to blame anyone other than the culprit for a,27 year old taking a knife to a bunch of uniforms is lunacy.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 10:13 PM) After reading Sale's story, Ventura should be long gone. Sale got screwed by Ventura and Cooper. You flip worse than Caulfield

I think Kanle will close. There has to be a lot of crazy baseball things more common than a Tim Anderson walk.

IMO with Arrietta it is all about his command. When he has it, is is almost unhittable, when he doesn't, he is human,

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 09:17 PM) He hasn't seemed like his head has been in the game for the last two days. I wonder if he is pouting about Sale. He fouled a ball of his foot a couple of days ago. If you watch him jog, it is still bothering him. I think he has that on his mind.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 09:16 PM) One of these posts is not like the other... Because I was being sarcastic

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 09:08 PM) Funny thing is Kershaw has a clause in his contract where he immediately becomes a free agent if traded, ruining a lot of his value for other teams. Veterans on multi year contracts used to have the right to demand a trade after a season if they got traded.

Frazier sucks

I'm with the Sox. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0725-story.html

Errors always kill,the Sox.

QUOTE (Insp @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 07:59 PM) Why are our hitters so undisciplined? Grab a bat. If you have 2 strikes on you vs, Arrietta and he has his stuff and control, you are screwed.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 07:26 PM) Teams have been successful against arrieta making him throw a lot of pitches. Of course Sox are being aggressive Hitting him early isn't bad if he has his good stuff.

They just showed the punch AJ play. Rich Hill was pitching for the Cubs.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 06:28 PM) So the Sox are wearing the 1983 Jerseys again today. Are they wearing them as a support of Chris Sale, a middle finger to management, or because the swept yesterday, even though they lost in them Saturday. They didn't lose Saturday. They won 2 in a row with them. BTW, anyone who still has their ticket stubs from Saturday get a free best available upper deck ticket for Aug 5-7 vs Baltimore, exchange at White Sox box office only.

Sox will have 4 30k attendance home games in a row after this brief home series.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 02:40 PM) I don't like Hahn for personal reasons that go all the way back to how he treated people at Harvard Law...but mostly because he has done a pretty lousy job. I don't think Ventura is the best manager for the future of this organization. I have never underrated Sale or Q. The Q package would include Robertson and return Moncada, Benitendi, Kopech, Eduardo Rodriguez and Rusney Castillo with huge cash susidy for remaining dollars on that deal. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 6, 2015 -> 09:05 AM) * Why? Are you not happy with Hahn's tenure? Haber is much more similar to Hahn than KW. You need your contract negotiators, and your talent evaluators in equal measure, and, on rare occasions, you have front office guys proficient at both. To be disappointed in much beyond the smaller moves fizzling (like Keppinger) is pretty much an impossible argument to make given where this organization was 18 months ago. This post has been edited by caulfield12: Mar 6, 2015 -> 10:12 AM

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 04:25 PM) Hahn doesn't move fast. I fear he's going to blow it. I hope I'm wrong. Clearly all the guys everyone wants were clearly available and they obviously will pull them back now.

QUOTE (bruni @ Jul 25, 2016 -> 03:22 PM) Yankees take the entire haul received from Cubs for Chapman, add #2 overall catching prospect Gary Sanchez AND Pineda (Coop will fix him!) for Sale. Sox immediately solve long term catching issue with Sanchez and most recent #1 Collins, get stronger up the middle in time with McKinney and Rashard Crawford, acquire stud middle infielder Torres (who I would convert into a 2B) and have both Warren and Pineda to bolster starting pitching staff. No way.