Dick Allen

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jul 15, 2016 -> 12:10 PM) Shuck actually is a better option. fixed. Doesn't trust the front office to make a trade, so therefore, it's time to downgrade the position. I am shocked because Shuck is left handed.

QUOTE (Lillian @ Jul 15, 2016 -> 11:48 AM) That may be, however he is probably the most suitable option, within the organization. I don't trust our front office to make any more trades. I wonder if Morneau will be in the line up vs. the lefty.

Anyone see that 30 for 30 with Gooden and Strawberry? Those guys were pretty messed up. It looks like Strawberry might have his life together now. Gooden looks gaunt and horrible. Couldn't stop swallowing and couldn't sit still. Looks like he still has a bad problem.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 05:21 PM) I just have this terrible feeling the Sox are going to call Morneau the "Trade-Deadline Acquisition" and he's going to blow. The good news is he will be with the team for 2 weeks before the deadline so he can be evaluated. I would totally agree with you if he wasn't going to be ready until after the deadline. If Mourneau isn't swinging well they bring in another hitter IMO.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 06:01 PM) Yes, he is a very good prospect. #4 on Bosox list. 18 yrs old. His numbers Don't look so great, but he was the #1 ranked international pitcher in 2014. He is probably 4 years away. If Pomerantz helps them win, no ime in Boston will care if the kid becomes a star.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 05:47 PM) Bosox got Pomerantz from Padres. No word on who they gave up. Bet it's less than what Hahn gave. We'll know soon. It is Keith Law's #14 overall prospect. I guess you lose.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 03:11 PM) RHP Scott Carroll has been outrighted to Charlotte. 40-man roster goes to 39. https://twitter.com/whitesox/status/753677355260846080 Makes room for Turner.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 02:37 PM) I think Balta's point merely is that Morneau might not be ready to come up. I tend to agree. I think, and arguably based on his performance, he should receive a few more at-bats in the minor leagues before being called up. You never know with veterans. He may be done, he may be on fire when he comes up. His rehab assignment numbers don't mean much. Especially this few ABs. He might be hitting it hard. Might be ready to hit it hard, or he may suck. They need to find out though pretty quickly. It does get to the point where facing inferior AA or AAA pitching isn't going to help him at all anyway. Balta's point is to throw shade on the White Sox.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 01:55 PM) You're actually looking at his rehab stats in 17 at bats? Got to find some black cloud.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 01:37 PM) Well, he's 3/20 in Charlotte. 3 BB, 1 3b. (Updated with last night's stats that I guess B-R doesn't have yet) 2-17 at Charlottle 2-6 at Birmingham

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 01:41 PM) You do realize that tomorrow's game counts towards the team's standings at the end of the season, don't you? Yes, but to expect him to come in guns a blazing is beyond insane. Of course his numbers weren't going to be tremendous. It's as ludicrous as holding what a guy does his first 4 or 5 spring training games against them. And the guy he is replacing on the roster is 2-22 with 5 walks and 9 strikeouts.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 01:37 PM) Well, he's 2/17 in Charlotte. 1 BB, 1 3b. You do realize those were his firsts ABs vs pitchers trying to get him out in about 9 months don't you?

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 12:09 PM) Good thing they didnt plan for this at all in the month he had already been gone. Shuck has been pretty good the last month.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 12:08 PM) Here's someone people on here may not want to hear...but Melvin Upton. He's +11 in DRS. Have good years in offensive WAR and defensive. He's the guy once they traded for him that would put up 2011 Adam Dunn numbers.

Maybe the fact that his is making $1.5 million and hasn't dominated AAA makes his getting through waivers pretty simple. Or maybe they keep him around and work him out of the bullpen.

QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 10:01 AM) so .... baseball starts again tomorrow right? next topic please But the guy jumped into a pool. He could have been killed.

He does make a point. ESPN brought us the X Games, therefore, all their information must be superior. It's just as logical as any of his other posts.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 08:22 AM) If it's that simple, why does ESPN, who is supposed to be the foremost authority on sports news and information...choose not to use it? Why would they deliberately want to be wrong if it's in their best interest to use the best statistics? It wouldn't cost them more money to use a different version of WAR, would it? With the knowledgeable baseball guys over there like Law, Callis, Stark, Schoenfield...what's the reason? Has anyone ever asked that question? And because simply having a higher WAR in a limited number of at-bats doesn't automatically mean it could be extrapolated out over a full season for a bench player. If that was the case, the Reds would take Saladino for Bruce, the Dodgers Saladino for Puig? And yet we know both of those trades are pretty much unrealistic...right? Or even for Beltran to rent him for 2-3 months, or Josh Reddick. There are MANY players who wouldn't stand up over the test of full-time play, but their abilities can be maximized as part-time or bench players. Regardless of what version of WAR you use, it's just ONE snapshot...one of hundreds of statistics you could look at, when assessing a position player. One thing that's clear statistically is that Puig's defense has improved pretty dramatically compared to years past. But hey...if the White Sox want to go down with the Avi Garcia Ship, more power to them. I'd hate to see how he grades out about right now. ESPN is the foremost authority on sports news and information? You must think McDonald's is the foremost authority on how to make a burger.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 06:41 PM) Lawrie is also the guy that tweeted that he was going to rehab several years ago, so I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the shed. Rehab as in rehab assignment. Not a problem with addiction.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 06:28 PM) http://espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting/_/pos...qualified/false No, it was for all MLB outfielders, not just AL. It's pretty much impossible to do a stats screen for Puig and not have NL teams come up with him. For some reason, the post/s disappeared. Probably because if we want to start a back and forth about everyone's past assessments on players, the Gordon Beckham 2008-09 time period would be a good one and everyone could be made to look foolish without much difficulty. Even MLB GM's can often fall into that category with their "overpraise" of new acquisitions to sell them to the fanbase. If anyone on this site (including the mods) can be correct on their talent assessments more than 50% of the time, they probably should be working in an MLB front office or on Wall Street in analysis/forecasting. I am sure they appreciate it, but why do you think the mods know more than everyone else? I bet even a couple of them don't even have a high school varsity letter.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 05:29 PM) Well, not every prediction is going to be right...and just because a player has all the tools in the world doesn't mean they're going to take advantage of them. I remember back in 1985, I must have bought 100 Eric Davis rookie cards thinking he was going to be the next Mays/Mantle. Didn't happen. By WAR, Puig's at 1.0 (and looking at around 1.5-2.5 for a full season assuming he stays healthy and continues his recent improved play). That would place him 34th out of 53 in the category (qualified number of AB's). Not nearly up to the standards of his first two seasons, but if a bunch of "Avi Garcia could do that in his sleep in RF" posts come up, it will be pretty amusing. In the context of AL MLB outfielders, 48th-51st out of 197 total players. So, if that's not a starting outfielder, I'm not sure what is. 15 AL teams 3 starters =45. 48-51 doesn't quite make it. That said, if they were willing to trade him for a meddling prospect I would do it quickly,as long as that altercation with his sister was false.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 08:48 AM) Or they undervalued Semien and overestimated how easy the transition to the AL Central would be for a two-pitch NL pitcher. Cueto learned the hard way. He almost had a 5 ERA, now he's likely to win the Cy Young the next year. Think he got reminded again last night why he's better off in the NL West than the American League. Samardzija did pretty well in his few months in Oakland. Better than his SF numbers. And you would have traded any Sox minor leaguer not named Anderson, Montas or Hawkins for him, so you had no idea he would struggle either.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 12:12 PM) The cost of piling up enough talent to "guarantee" 95 wins is astronomical, especially when you consider the multitude of injury/underperformance risks baked in. All to improve your playoff series odds from 5 in 10 to 6 in 10? When you still have to win three of them? It's not a total crapshoot, but it's close. And that's using ad hoc analysis on the teams that DID win 95. What about the ones that were SUPPOSED to win 95? Like the Nationals recently, for example. My point is that if you were in charge of allocating resources for an upcoming season, you'd be incredibly discouraged at the success rate of the "best team on paper" relative to the costs associated. I agree. These days you are paying for WAR. The WAR champion hasn't won the WS since 2010. Lately they have been teams in the 8-10 range.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 09:52 AM) Gee, that was at the end of the 2014 season. SOMETHING DIFFERENT HAPPENED IN 2015....gee, I guess we shouldn't adjust our thinking in any way, shape or form as a result of new evidence, which should LOGICALLY be weighted more heavily than previous seasons. Once they are gone, there is nothing you can do about it. You basically "gave up" on the entire Sox system except for Montas, Anderson, and Hawkins. QUIT WHINING ABOUT A TRADE YOU SAID THE TEAM HAD TO MAKE. You yourself said you didn't think Semien could handle SS defensively. Still would be hesitant to throw Semien out there for 145+ games at SS and expect him to have less than 35-40 errors. I'd be okay with anyone else going, including Semien, M.Johnson or Danish. To borrow one of your lines, cue the I'd said I'd be OK because I know the White Sox would do it, but I knew all along it was dumb and not OK.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 09:48 AM) They could have had 15-20 middle infielders under 6 years of control and it wouldn't matter one iota if none of them were major league regulars. 90-120 years of control!!! Amazing. It also doesn't explain trading Thompson when they had zero depth behind him. If all of those infielders were such quality depth, they wouldn't have had Gillaspie/Beckham there ahead of them....and then traded for Todd Frazier the following off season. Yet you would have had no qualms about including Thompson in the Samardzija trade. It's in your posts for everyone to see.