Dick Allen

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 04:54 PM) Anderson is horrible right now. It is common for rookies.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 04:49 PM) Hawk's ego was involved with the Dombrowski firing. Not sure who called for LaRussa's. I thought it was the owner's call. It actually all worked out for the best. Fans hated LaRussa. If Domnpnrowski was still around and got Hawks job would he have drafted McDowell, Thomas, Ventura, Fernandez? Doubtful. Hawk also brought in Calderon who became Raines, and claimed Bonilla as a rule 5. He did trade him back to Pittsburgh, which probably was a mistake, but it did bring back DeLeon, who became the One Dog, and Bonilla may have hurt draft position. He certainly wasn't going to lead that team to the playoffs, but the Hawk haters will never look at it objectively.

With his hat and glasses, he kind of looks like Bono.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 04:20 PM) Head scratching move to bring up Turner to start today when we have Fulmer here already The Sox have 1 run. Might as well hang the L on Turner than waste a good start by someone els.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 03:47 PM) You can trade Robertson and still compete in the next few years. They wasted a first round pick on a closer, might as well groom him for that Not a waste if he is good. It could have been Courtney Hawkins.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 03:45 PM) Why? Gets it up to 97. Will only have to worry about 2 pitches.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 04:05 PM) Based on what? The idealized version or reality-based one? You were about to call him the executive of the year when he acquired Avi

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 03:44 PM) With some good hitting teams coming up, it really does seem like the decision to sell for Hahn at the deadline will be easy. Who is he going to sell?

Turn Turner into a reliever. I think he could be good there.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 02:53 PM) Sure I can do other things at home instead of watching this garbage team But you aren't. I bet if someone offered you money to attend this game you would delay your household chores.

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 02:53 PM) Cause those two things are definitely, totally the same. Getting paid to watch a game would be kind of nice, especially if I was going to watch it anyway.

Pujols looks a little chunky

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 02:47 PM) Couldn't pay me to watch this particular game live They couldn't pay you to go to the game but you will watch it for free?

It amaEs me how many just horrible pitches Sox hitters have swung at.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 01:54 PM) I really don't follow the reasoning of management not having Fulmer to start. You need a starter to fill in for Rodon and Fulmer has been starting. Put him the bullpen when Rodon is back. Bringing up Turner just doesn't make sense to me, but hopefully he does us proud It would be his major league debut. Could start walking the world and then your bullpen is hurting. For one game this makes some sense. Hopefully Turner has something, but chances are the Sox are going to need at least 6 to win today.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 02:14 PM) Failed prospects with low K rates, ERAs approaching 5 in Charlotte? Uh, no. Sox will knock Weaver around today. So 25 year old former top prospects aren't what you are interested in? He is 3 weeks older than Avi.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 02:19 PM) Good question. Let's take a look at the facts on the ground as they exist today to see what the answer ought to be. Seller's market. Check. Sox are at .500, but in the 80% of the games they've played that did not feature Chris Sale on the bump, they've played to a .431 winning percentage. Check. Offense, once again, just like last year, near last in the league. Check. Six teams, including Boston and Toronto, ahead of the team for that second wild card spot. Check. You add all of that up and you easily get to the answer you are suggesting, GreenSox, the obvious and logical answer. Meanwhile, prepare yourself for a Jay Bruce announcement or the like between now and August 1st. Owner trying to win sucks Lose, lose, lose then Thad can keep b****ing.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 01:43 PM) It was partially self-made. The Padres were a 77 win team when he took over. At least he had the awareness to reverse course quickly when his team won 74 games. He's done a good job recovering; even Myers, whom he overpaid for, probably has much of his trade value resurrected. Hahn won 76 and kept plugging. We'll see. LOL

So Erik Johnson has a sprained elbow.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 11:30 AM) Jacob Turner - centerpiece of Anibal Sanchez trade. Another one of Hahn's boys -paid $1.5 mill for him. Hope he throws well. Isn't this the type of guy you love?

QUOTE (captain54 @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 11:26 AM) Torborg's record with the Sox. .515 Ventura's record with the Sox…465 Manager of the Year award.. Torborg 1 vs Ventura 0 Torborg.. 2 seasons above .500, 1 season under .500 Ventura.. 1 season above .500, 3 seasons under .500, and one currently @.500 Torborg brought the 1989 Sox from a 69 win team.. to the 1990 Sox, 94 win team (finishing behind the 103 win Oakland A's, managed by the Sox reject, Tony LaRussa) Ventura is very kind to the Reinsdorf family and always brings a nice deli platter when he's invited to a Reinsdorf family event Torborg was .439 coming in and was given a prey good roster. His White Sox winning percentage is only .006 better than Terry Bevington's. And the experience card is beyond overplayed. Maybe in year 1, but they won 85 games. What Brooks Boyer should do is arrange an interview for Lip with JR, KW, RH and RV. He will never slam them again.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 08:47 AM) Right up there with giving Ubaldo Jimenez the biggest contract in White Sox history...brilliant stuff. If we signed Parra, we'd AT LEAST have a lot better DH production than Garcia. It's his defense that's dragging down his WAR. Might want to check on Parra's offense again. You are making things up. Wrc+ of 63. Avi has a 69.

Here's the way to add three guys and not lose a single pick...upgrading three weaknesses instead of just one. Latos or Fister is signed to a one year deal, then you wait until June to add Fowler or Desmond (in June) depending on how Saladino and the outfield situation is going... So essentially Latos/Fister vs. Erik Johnson/Danks and you buy insurance against injury and can attach a QO if they pitch well (which they're going to be more motivated to do on a one year deal, theoretically). Then you're looking at Parra getting most of the playing time in RF. Garcia would DH against lefties, with Shuck playing RF for Parra. If you want to spend more for a higher OPS, you go Span over Parra and still keep the draft pick. And you don't have to worry about long-term ramifications for signing any of the Big 3 to five year exploding contracts. Not to mention you have even more financial flexibility created next season. This post has been edited by caulfield12: Dec 31, 2015 -> 10:03 AM Keep telling us how dumb Rick Hahn is. He needs to listen to you. if you were the GM the #1 pick may already be clinched.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 08:47 AM) Right up there with giving Ubaldo Jimenez the biggest contract in White Sox history...brilliant stuff. If we signed Parra, we'd AT LEAST have a lot better DH production than Garcia. It's his defense that's dragging down his WAR. Read the first post of a thread you started. You are making things up again http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=97876

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 08:38 AM) I think I should copy and paste my thousands of words on why Desmond would succeed starting in December...because there weren't many here who thought signing him was a good idea at all. Bad defense. NL player. In decline. Won't easily be able to convert to outfield play. Too many strikeouts. Etc. Except he wasn't available in June. I know you were only posting what the White Sox would do, that is why you included signing him in June with giving Latos $10 million and Gerardo Parra $8 million, a couple things the Sox surely would have done,