Dick Allen

The 2014 Mets and 2015 White Sox are somewhat similar. Offensively and defensively challenged, nice young pitching. KW and Hahn get a couple of guys who can hit and catch the ball, another guy or two either bounce back or develop, next year could be a lot better than many think.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 19, 2015 -> 09:32 AM) In addition to 100 more innings, his fastball has been 2 MPH faster, probably adding more stress. I was wondering about this since he has struggled a bit and some have speculated he may be at lest slightly injured. What if in his next start he blew out his elbow and needed TJ. Would the Cubs pay him his arb number next season to rehab?

Arietta's last 7 2/3 IP, 8 ER. In his 100 IP before that, 4 ER. They have to hope he isn't out of gas, because if he is, they have no chance. But there is no way he could have kept up that pace. 4 ER in 100 IP is pretty insane.

The wind is supposed to be howling out on Tuesday night which should help the Cubs, but if they do lose, does Maddon skip Hammel in game 4?

Jim Caldwell gets an A in dumb decisions. He still needs a TD.

I don't understand not going for 2

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 18, 2015 -> 10:25 AM) Never heard the outcome of that suit, but at the time it was reported by the Tribune, the article mentioned that once Ms. Irmer successfully got the Sox to actually start paying rent in 2008 for a stadium that they were simply reaping all of the rewards from at no cost to them, it was all over but the shouting for her. According to the Trib, Reinsdorf immediately began lobbying the Blago to get her fired, which eventually culminated in the actions taken by Thompson as noted above. Let that be a lesson for anyone thinking they can tinker with Jerry Reinsdorf's sweet heart lease deal with the state of Illinois that he received by threatening to move the team to Florida if his demands weren't met. That's the esteemed leader of our White Sox right there, in all of his glory. If only Reinsdorf were as good at producing sustainable, winning ball clubs as he is at blackmail, maybe we all would have prospered somewhat as a result of the sweet heart deal instead of only Reinsdorf and the investors. They've become immensely wealthy; meanwhile, we've only seen postseason play come to U.S. Cellular Field just four times in the ballpark's 25 year existence. Suit was dismissed. Jerry Reinsdorf not wanting to pay one more dime than his lease requires, what an unusual individual. I am sure if you were renting a place and had a 2 year lease, if a month in the landlord wanted you to pay more, you , like the rest of us, would just get the checkbook and ask how much more did they want.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 18, 2015 -> 10:32 AM) Lol - umm, yes, I knew that, but don't you agree it was more interesting to treat the pesky little comment as if he did mean it? I thought so, at least, and that's what I did. Hope you enjoyed the retort! Why would you ever have become a White Dox fan if complaining isn't your favorite hobby? While you blame Reinsdorf for 34 of the past 35 years, using your criteria for exciting seasons the White Sox hadn't had one BEFORE JR since 1917. so the previous 63 seasons were all horrible misery as well. I why didn't you answer my question about what you are going to do about it? Just keep complaining? That hasn't worked.

QUOTE (Brian @ Oct 18, 2015 -> 08:43 AM) Definitely. Was also Rudock's worst game and he has been serviceable since then. For them to review the targeting in the Michigan game and still toss Bolden, easily the worst call I have seen in years. That whole crew yesterday was a joke. Both ways. I agree. I can understand a bad targeting call happening live, but I can't understand how a replay guy can come to the same conclusion. That replay guy had a couple of others that made you wonder.

Kris Bryant's road splits are Avi Garcia like .243/.333/.360

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 17, 2015 -> 09:04 PM) Another throw away comment only meant to insult, when you can't refute facts. So sad for you. Meanwhile, in 34 of Jerry Reinsdorf's 35 years of ownership of our White Sox, the team has failed to win even one playoff series. Not one! It's almost impossible to believe. The Kansas City Royals have a more impressive postseason record during this same time period, for crying out loud. That's why when we true diehard fans see the kinds of results we've seen as recently as the past decade, and yet the operating model still continues to be dominated by an unaccountable loyalty program, you see the angst in so many comments at a site like this. It also explains the miserably low attendance and TV ratings. These are the facts of the past as they relate to Reinsdorf's management of the team. He's been a complete disaster as owner. Now, can he and his unaccountable henchmen find a way to turn this thing around and find that elusive "sustained success" they've been "talking about" for so long now? I guess it's possible - anything can happen. But boy oh boy, their track record doesn't create much confidence in their ability to do so. I hope they prove me wrong! Yep Reimsdorf is trying to screw all of us.

I wonder if Lip even realizes in the same thread he says ethical journalism would mean each team is covered equally despite whether there is any interest or not, (seems laughable to me)he posted in the "Golden Age"which I am guessing was the time he considered journalists had ethics, the White Sox received "the lion's share of the coverage,". Seems under his definition that wasn't very ethical. I guess, as Geddy Lee has belted out many times, the more things change, the more they stay they same.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 04:59 PM) Wrong song, LeRoy! I'd much rather enjoy and be chatting about good White Sox baseball than complain about bad White Sox baseball. Unfortunately, we've had more of the latter than former the past 35 years under the leadership of you-know-who. But you are correct about one thing - life is good! I just want White Sox baseball to be good as well, and enjoy more of it in the form of exciting postseason play than we have in the past 35 years. That little request there - more postseason play - is the point I keep making but which you inexplicably keep equating to complaining and whining and moaning and this and that. I don't know why you do that, but you do. It seems to be your thing. That's ok, though. I can handle it. I'll just "olay" that charging bull off to the side and continue on my merry way. Why? Because as a wise man once said: "Life is good." You have only found one season exciting in 35 years despite several postseason appearances. In fact, for me the 1990 season was very exciting. 94 wins, would have made the playoffs if they were like they are now, from a team that was supposed to be bad. The 1977 team finished in 3rd place yet they are still adored. Reinsdorf didn't own that team, but many people found that team to be exciting. It probably is time for you to bail, The fact is JR isn't going to sell, and you don't find teams good enough to make the postseason exciting. It depends on how that postseason goes. We'll be thankful you are not a Pirates fan. After 20 below .500 season in a row, knocked out in 5, then knocked out in 1, and knocked out in 1. Three more dull seasons. Every post you moan how the White Sox and Jerry Reinsdorf in particular, have made your baseball viewing miserable for 34 of the past 35 years. Besides repeating that over and over and over again, why don't you do something about it?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 04:58 PM) If Russell is healthy, Cubs in 6. He is out for the series.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 02:43 PM) Actually, and maybe you know this, Dick Allen, but was 1983 "exciting"? Most of us, the very great majority of us, in fact, certainly heard it was, but we wouldn't really know. Because that year, due to one of King Reinsdorf's many franchise-crippling moves from over the years, that particular team was practically hidden away from us on that brilliant brain child of Reinsdorf and Einhorn's known as "Sportsvision". So instead of having 150 games or so on free TV like the Cubs did the next season in '84 during their successful run that year, which made them wildly popular throughout the city and beyond, that '83 team, which was a very good team, was seen on free TV a mere 32 times, with the balance on Sportsvision, which practically no one subscribed to. I, like so many, had to rely on the broadcast stylings of one Joe McConnell on WMAQ radio to paint the mental image of what was happening on the field with that '83 team. So if it was exciting, it's only because McConnell told us so, thanks to that failed get-rich-quick Sportsvision scheme. If in 35 years, you have enjoyed yourself 1 season, I think any of us would conclude it's time to move on, but you appear to be someone who embraces whining and complaining. You must go to a restaurant, and wait to see how successful they become to determine if you enjoyed the meal. It must be tough for you to go to a movie when it first comes out because you won't know if you liked it until it's final box office numbers are in. It definitely appears you would rather complain about something than to enjoy it. That really is a shame. Life is good. Only the White Sox can be criticized and whined about 32 years later for being AHEAD of their time. Why is it you were willing to pay to watch them in 2005?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 11:54 AM) Oh I absolutely want Puig. This fanbase needs a flashy player. If nothing else to generate some interest. Plus he's a good player and we could use him. I agree. He's young, not too expensive, talented as can be, and the Sox could market the crap out of him. He has his issues without a doubt, so some sort of support would need to be either there or created.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 08:50 AM) Murphy's track record is a lot more extensive than Conor Gillaspie's, I don't think they're comparable at all. If the amounts being thrown around in this thread are true, though, he wouldn't be a smart pickup. I'll pass on Frazier too. People are underestimating what it would take to get him. I'm not comparing them per se. Only the 2014 version of Gillaspie. Murphy is awful in the field. 14 homers is a career high. I could see a .730 OPS with awful defense pretty easily. If he were just average with the glove, it would be one thing, but he's known to be really bad.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 08:01 AM) . That's what the metrics say. But I don't trust defensive metrics. The jump around from year to year. I get that for offense, obciously, but not defense. Lacks range. 2 years left on the deal. I fully expect the Sox to pile up some imperfect prospects to get a guy like him, just like they did last year. And somehow the team will find a way to get output out of those guys while the Sox can't. Sox didn't get any better when they dumped Micah from second. Coopers pitcher stats got better. The team didn't. They jump around, but he's been positive with them the last 3 years. Eventually, he will probably be bad, but to say he is a bad defender now isn't accurate. He has been over a 4 WAR player the last couple of years. The contract isn't a problem. Extending him reasonably might, but IMO, the problem is he is going to cost a lot to get. I think some of the suggestions of his cost are more than a bit low. It seems we are in an era where if you have an average 3B and average C, you are ahead of most.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Oct 16, 2015 -> 07:41 AM) Todd Frazier and his 2nd half c .650 OPS and bad defense? Wouldn't surprise me at all if the Sox load up the prospects for him. I mean he almost won home run derby! He is actually a pretty good defender.

Murphy has been a good hitter, and the playoffs probably will make him some money, but do you really want to pay a guy that much money for several years in his 30's who is probably the 2014 edition of Conor Gillaspie ?

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 15, 2015 -> 06:44 PM) Lol - oh, c'mon. What are you doing here. You are twisting words left and right. First you say I said " the only way a season could be exciting is if the Sox won the WS", and then you clarify that by saying that I said the Sox " have had 1 exciting season in 35 years". You do realize that's two completely different statements, don't you? The first is, as I already mentioned, something I've never, ever said. I've never said that the only way a season could be exciting is if the Sox won the WS. Never, ever, and I'll eat my hat if you can go back and find a quote where I said such a dumb thing. (Don't worry, dear Hat of mine - you are in no danger!) As for the second quote about the one good season in the past 35, under the Reinsdorf regime, I certainly did assert that there has only been one truly exciting season during Reinsdorf's horrific reign as owner, that of course being '05. The other 34 years - only four playoff appearances with only four playoff wins among all four. That's not very exciting at all, now is it. Obviously there was excitement in the anticipation leading up to those playoff appearances, but those were quickly squashed by the results (particularly the 0-3 sweep by the Mariners in '00 and the 1-3 quick in & out against the Rays in '08). I could soften my stance a little bit, I guess, and say '83 was exciting, since it was the first trip to the postseason in 24 years at that point, even if we were outscored 18-1 in those final three games. But all in all, '05 was truly the only showing worthy of note during the past 35 years. No doubt about it! Finally, the only one really "whining", "moaning", and/or "complaining" around here is you, ironically enough. Seems to be your go-to option when you can't argue a point that you want to. If you don't agree with someone's criticism of Reinsdorf, or Williams, or whatever, just say it. Provide evidence or suggestions to the contrary. But don't throw down with the weak name calling. That's not interesting in any aspect. You think this years teams making their league championship series are exciting, yet when the White Sox made their league championship series in 1983, 1993, not exciting. I guess the difference is I can watch something and immediately enjoy it. Apparently you need 6 months and final results to see if you enjoyed it or not. Not surprising. Too bad the Rangers season could have been exciting, but 3 consecutive errors ruined everything, therefore a dull season.

Arietta not starting game one even though it would be his regular rest. Makes you think he might be having some shoulder or elbow issues.

Grandal 5 for his last 93. That is really unbelievable.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Oct 15, 2015 -> 05:45 PM) Based on? I mean I don't think he's smart, but why the "bad dude" opinion? 5 year $95 million contract with the Bulls. 13 year $185 million contract with Adidas. There is no question his IQ isn't very high. I don't think he is a bad dude, but when he mentions free agency 2 years away as a means to get his family financial stable, he is being fed things by a bad dude. Reggie Rose did a great job keeping his little brother out of trouble and danger, no one can say otherwise. But he is also a well known asshole who apparently is all about getting every last dollar. If $280 million plus whatever he made befor these contracts isn't enough for him and several generations of Roses to be able to consider themselves financially stable, he needs a new financial advisor.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Oct 15, 2015 -> 06:44 PM) Lol - oh, c'mon. What are you doing here. You are twisting words left and right. First you say I said " the only way a season could be exciting is if the Sox won the WS", and then you clarify that by saying that I said the Sox " have had 1 exciting season in 35 years". You do realize that's two completely different statements, don't you? The first is, as I already mentioned, something I've never, ever said. I've never said that the only way a season could be exciting is if the Sox won the WS. Never, ever, and I'll eat my hat if you can go back and find a quote where I said such a dumb thing. (Don't worry, dear Hat of mine - you are in no danger!) As for the second quote about the one good season in the past 35, under the Reinsdorf regime, I certainly did assert that there has only been one truly exciting season during Reinsdorf's horrific reign as owner, that of course being '05. The other 34 years - only four playoff appearances with only four playoff wins among all four. That's not very exciting at all, now is it. Obviously there was excitement in the anticipation leading up to those playoff appearances, but those were quickly squashed by the results (particularly the 0-3 sweep by the Mariners in '00 and the 1-3 quick in & out against the Rays in '08). I could soften my stance a little bit, I guess, and say '83 was exciting, since it was the first trip to the postseason in 24 years at that point, even if we were outscored 18-1 in those final three games. But all in all, '05 was truly the only showing worthy of note during the past 35 years. No doubt about it! Finally, the only one really "whining", "moaning", and/or "complaining" around here is you, ironically enough. Seems to be your go-to option when you can't argue a point that you want to. If you don't agree with someone's criticism of Reinsdorf, or Williams, or whatever, just say it. Provide evidence or suggestions to the contrary. But don't throw down with the weak name calling. That's not interesting in any aspect. You have made my point. You can't tell if a season is exciting or not until the playoffs are over. Too bad you missed out on some fun times. 1983, 1990,1993, 1994 until the strike, 2000, 2006 was fun for a good while, 2008, the Blackout game was a joy, 2010 when they had a really hot stretch. There were some good times in other seasons as well. 2012 being in first place unexpectedly most of the season, 2003 first place in the middle of September, 2004, a great team until Maggs and The Big Hurt went down, too bad you didn't find those exciting. But keep on mentioning those 35 years. Start another thread about how you are going to choose a new team, then post the same tired post the next 6 months about JR and his 35 year reign of terror.