Dick Allen

QUOTE (Dunt @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 11:51 AM) Question is: why the f*** would you live in Granger, IN? His daughter lives there, and his grandchildren are there.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 11:50 AM) I would sometimes wonder how long Hawk can keep up the drive he has to the ballpark. He's getting pretty old, and not living close by makes for a heck of a commute. Staying at hotels and riding buses to ballparks is a different story, and so I can understand doing road games. He probably still loves being on the road, too. Good for Hawk. If it were me, I would do home games, and hire a driver. Of course, Granger wouldn't be where I lived, but if I had to..........

The Swirsk won't be the replacement. He does the Bulls which can go into June.

Only road games? That makes no sense, unless he just doesn't want to make the drive anymore.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 11:41 AM) That's the key point. Obviously not all .230 seasons are created equal. There's Adam Dunn .230 and there's Brian Anderson .230. Trayce's .732 OPS people are citing is basically league average. Most would be just fine with that. I think if Trayce hit .230 over the course of a full season, his slugging pct. and OBP would be a little lower than it was in September.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 11:30 AM) Everybody keeps focusing on just Ventura--the ALL need to go: him, Hahn and ESPECIALLY KW. Time to clean house. Unless you want to spend another 10 years at the bottom of the AL central. But hey, 2005 was great, wasn't it? Actually, 2005 was great. Yes.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 11:27 AM) .225 in 2006 isn't the same as .225 in 2016. When it gets down there, it's not much different. If Trayce is a .230 hitter, those who think the Sox need to build around him now will be calling for his head.

QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 07:58 PM) well i wasn't going to go there, but i am glad many posters are looking with both eyes open. TT will compete for the 4th OF'er. for those who think i am wrong, how many times does a player / prospects comes up and performed better than their minor league stats. defensively he may be elite but the sox also needs someone to hit. i wish i was wrong. he is a 200 - 230 avg hitter with nice power and great "D" 134 PA is not a lot to go on. Look at Viciedo's at a much younger age. What I don't get is the posts that say, "I don't care if he hits .230, his defense in CF...". Yes, they do care if he hits .230. Brian Anderson was advanced stat-wise one of the greatest CFs defensively who ever lived in 2006, and he hit .225, and he wound up benched, and everyone cared he hit .225 even though the team had an offense that could cover .225 a heck of a lot better than the 2016 White Sox unless Hahn has the greatest winter ever, and everything goes more than right next year with the bats.

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 10:25 AM) Not denying that in a vacuum it's hard to quantify what a manager brings. But when you take everything into consideration from the lack of experience when he was hired, and sloppy, under-performing teams over the last few years, the right baseball move would have to make a change. And it has nothing to do with appeasing fans. 29 other teams probably would have made a change today because that's how it goes. Or you take a new approach, get good players, and watch the guy suddenly become a genius. If Robin's first 2 years were 61-101, and followed that up with 66-96, should he and would most teams have dumped him, and never given him another job? That is what Joe Maddon put up with crappy players. If anything the old adage, you can't fire all the players, so you fire the manager is something the White Sox are not doing. That they are going to be firing players, is something that should be applauded. It's new thinking. If the players are crappy, the team will be crappy, no matter who is making out the line up card.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 08:42 AM) It's amazing to see how bad Colin Kaepernick has become. I don't think he will be starting in a week or so. Do you think it has more to do with the downgrade in talent around him, or are defenses starting to catch up to these types of QBs? IIRC, he made his first start vs. the Bears, and the Bears had no chance against him.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 08:08 AM) Right, but if the kick were blocked and we recovered, there's a strong chance that we would lose 5-10 yards on the play, thus making it a 59-64 yard field goal. Which is why I still don't get why Fox didn't wait longer. Once you attempt a FG even if it wasn't 4th down, if it's missed or blocked, you don't retain possession anyway. It made no sense. They were out of TO's so if it were a bad snap or something they were SOL anyway. I realize running one back afterward is a longshot, but why even give them a chance?

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 08:17 AM) What about Puig + pitching prospect for Quintana? I love Q, but the team needs hitting but I think he is more valuable than Puig so I'd like for them to grab a prospect in a deal with the Dodgers. I would love to see Puig as a White Sox. It's the one Caulfield obsession that actually makes sense.

493 career starts, and yesterday was the first time he didn't get out of the first inning.

QUOTE (LDF @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 06:40 AM) now is the biggest question. with the top 10 being protected.... will the sox get a top notch FA? a top notch fa with a couple of middle fa to help out, like a player who can play multi position including 3b. that will be nice. I think the odds are against it, but it's nice to know they still will be selecting high if they do sign a QO guy. Doesn't appear to be much offense on the free agent list. Zobrist seems like a guy who could really help the team, but he's older, and one of the most fascinating free agents IMO. Sabermetrically, he's been one of the better players in baseball the last 4 or 5 years. Will that translate to saber dollars? Desmond is an interesting guy to me. I think he will get a QO. Had a bad year, but has had some success in the past. Weiters is a Boras guy with question marks and upside. Unfortunately for the White Sox, this isn't the free agent class of the hitter.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Oct 5, 2015 -> 07:37 AM) What you failed to include was that the team scored 961 the year before in 2003. Theo's first year also. But the question would be why would Theo have even hired Francona after the 4 year disaster in Philly? We have read here, no one would ever hire Robin, look at his record. Francona with crappy players is a dumb ass. Francona with Damon, and Papi, and Manny, and Youk in the line up and Pedro on the mound , is a genius.

Trayce was great, but he hasn't won s***.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 04:13 PM) I hope Webb's last game with the Sox is today he has been just dreadful. He's been awful, but he can be really good if somehow he could get some control. You are not going to get anything for him, but I don't mind him as a Charlotte Knight who may be able to figure something out. It probably won't happen.

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 04:10 PM) Yankees limping in the postseason. I just hope it's Blue Jays/Royals in the ALCS. I hope the Royals get swept.

Remember when Robin was an idiot in 2014 for not using Webb at the 8th inning guy?

John Fox had me perplexed today. Why down 2 do you not go for 2? And why with your kick coverage, do you call timeout with 7 seconds left which guarantees a kickoff if you get the lead?

At least Q has better value here. Last year on this very board Q for Jay Bruce was considered a good idea, and now we b**** at Hahn for signing LaRoche. Anyone know what is going to be available from Japan this winter? That market has been pretty quiet recently.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 3, 2015 -> 05:29 PM) And my reply? Go watch those teams. That statement is 100% fair and completely deserved. Using that same logic, Do you think Tyler Flowers doesn't give one iota about being a decent hitter? You can't always judge desire by results.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 3, 2015 -> 05:12 PM) They traded Peavy and Rios because they were ungodly awful in the 1st half. That's one of the worst questions you've ever asked. If the White Sox were a better team they wouldn't have had to sell off Peavy, Thornton, and Rios at the deadline. I also specifically said that "If the White Sox hadn't had their fundamentals collapse they're close to a .500 team". So you also didn't bother reading my words there. I don't know if Joe Maddon would have done that. I don't know if Joe Maddon could have made the 2012 team so fundamentally sound either. But IMO, if you want to see the difference coaching can make in a team, go watch the 2011, 2012, and 2013 seasons for the White Sox. You will see an incredible fundamental team, one as focused as I've ever seen, surrounded by 2 teams that didn't care one iota. When you sell off those guys you show you are not trying to win that season anymore. I don't think that had anything to do with coaching. I think it was nice they gave coaching all the credit in 2012, but when things go well they can snowball that way just like they do when they go downhill. No coach has ever got Alex Rios' head totally in the game. Alexie is another guy who seems more fundamentally sound when things are going well with the team. They didn't stop working on fundamentals in 2013, the players just didn't take them into the games. To say a team didn't care one iota about fundamentals is maybe the most ridiculous thing you have ever posted, and that is saying something. L

Is OSU really the #1 team? I have only seen them briefly in a few games, but they don't looks so great to me.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 3, 2015 -> 05:02 PM) If that team was as good fundamentally as they were in 2012 but Konerko was toast and Sale was hurt, IMO they're a .500 team or nearly so. Again IMO, the reason they were SO AWFUL in all caps was that they suddenly were the worst fundamental, worst defense, stupidest team I'd seen in my time as a White Sox fan, right after the best fundamental team I'd seen as a White Sox fan. Even after pedaling Peavy and Rios ? Sox talk did get what they wanted in 2013. Tyler Flowers. The fact is, the reason the team was bad wasn't coaching or managing. If Joe Maddom was the 2013 White Sox manager with the same roster, are they a playoff team?