Dick Allen

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 08:41 PM) and his wRC+ is 99 and Flowers' is 71. Can we just stop using batting average? Soto takes walks and hits for power. Those are useful qualities and it's reflected in the slash lines and wRC+. Soto isn't an every day catcher. He is fine as a back up.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Sep 24, 2015 -> 07:46 AM) How did it work out for the Mariners by not trading Felix to the Red Sox for the prospects that didn't pan out? Sometimes you are damned if you do and damned if you don't. If Felix was pitching well in Boston and they won a WS like they did a couple of years ago, the trade would look lopsided. Frankly, if the Sox are going to suck, I'd rather have them suck with Sale going out there every fifth day than a bunch of junk shuttling between Charlotte and Chicago. Besides, the Mariners can still trade Felix. You're pretty much stuck with the junk when you have a collection of busted prospects.

How many times has a guy signed long term like Sale been traded for a bunch of prospects and it turned out to be a good deal for the team trading the star?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 02:57 PM) That's great and all, but, Mr. Record Keeper at the Police Department, why is your evidence bag outside of the evidence room? They can say all they want that the chain was never broken between the time they collected the sample to the time it was tested, but if they can't keep custody of the evidence after the test, why on earth should we believe them when they say they had it before the test? Maybe it's another evidence bag. Or maybe there is another explanation. If not, I'm with you, the chain had to be broken.

And even if someone did tamper with the evidence, why would they leave that bag where they did? What would that accomplish besides getting a lawyer to hold a press conference?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 02:28 PM) Of course he would say that...right after he leaked the DNA test "results" to the press. I would think if Kane or his "people" had anything to do with this, they would be smart enough not to leave the baggie in the parents' door. This is so bizarre.

Abreu has struggled vs. LHP this season.

Geo actually has struck out more per PA than Flowers this season.

I look for LaRoche to bounce back a bit next year. He never DHd, and his poor performance seemed to snowball. By all accounts he is a pro, and I think he still has it in him to have a decent year. Just remember 2012. People were mortified the Sox had to pay AJ $6 million, what with Tyler Flowers waiting in the wings. He came up big, put up career numbers. LaRoche had a season like this several years ago, and bounced by nicely. Maybe it won't be as nice since he's a bit older, but he should be better next season.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 02:14 PM) The Dodgers basically have bottomless pockets. Why would they want to give up substantial prospects for Sale when they can just go out and sign David Price? That's true, the other problem is it is too much for the Dodgers to give up, and at the same time, not enough for the White Sox.

These September out of contention performances mean nothing good or bad. Most players struggle initially in their major league careers. There are others that do good things as youngsters in September that they never do again, even with the White Sox. Jerry Owens, Brent Morel, Josh Fields...there are more.

QUOTE (Knackattack @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 01:44 PM) Micah has pretty outstanding minor league numbers and only 114 MLB plate appearances. He has value to a team that values offense over defense and while he may not be a centerpiece to a deal he could very well be a piece to add to maybe a Quintana trade to net us a 3b. If the Sox have to add Micah to Quintana, the 3B they get better be an All Star.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 01:23 PM) Wouldn't be selling low at all on Montas and Johnson. For Johnson, there are teams out there that love their speedy guys who have good OBP. I don't think he's a good fit with the Sox going forward due to the need for improved defense. All it takes is one GM out there to think Montas can be a starter, and you can get very good value for him. Micah failed to stick this season. You already have been ripping Montas for a little while. Why is that not selling low? If you thought they were good, you wouldn't want them traded. Do you really think you know something other teams don't?

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 01:13 PM) Montas, Micah Johnson and Avi are the 3 non-veterans that should absolutely be trade bait this offseason if they have value. Young guys struggle. If Soxtalk was around after Robin Ventura's rookie year, they probably would have demanded his head as a player even louder than as a manager. I don't understand the concept of this guy isn't going to be any good so the Sox should be able to get something decent for him. Other teams know the players probably better than most of us, with the possible exception of posters who watch a lot of minor league baseball, yet they aren't professional scouts. Selling low on prospects makes little sense to me.

And this game is ova.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2015 -> 07:04 AM) Yeah, Josh Hamilton comps are hyperbole. I have never heard of a drug problem with the guy, unlike some of his teammates. I do thing is obvious he has an alcohol problem, and a problem making intelligent decisions. Isn't alcohol really a drug?

Brian Anderson in for Stoney tonight. Yom Kipper.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 22, 2015 -> 12:23 PM) I don't know who these guys are, or how accurate their information is, but this is worth sharing. http://www.niagarafallsreporter.com/Storie.../Sep22Final.pdf Maybe it was the goons he hangs out with. They did have his DNA under her nails and on her shoulder. It makes you think of several possibilities.

His 2015 WHIP is actually lower than it was as a Cub. His K rate is down 1.5 from his Cub days. His walk rate is down 1.5 from his Cub days. He just was never really all that good. Football at ND and pitching for the Cubs apparently makes your reputation a lot better than your results.

Hopefully, Allen Thomas gets him on some sort of diet. If he was 185 when he signed, if something doesn't change, he is going to make Bartolo Colon look slim in a few years.

LaRoche will be a White Sox next season. Viciedo will not.

He also fumbles a ton, and has a knack for throwing INTs at the worst time. I went to the game Sunday. I had just said to my brother Cutler is having a really nice game when he threw the pick 6. He is obviously better than Claussen, and doesn't have a nice defense that can get him field position and take some pressure off having to score a ton of points to win. But he is what he is. The second you think he is doing well, something bad happens. It is a never ending occurrence.

His location has been bad for most of the year.he has thrown a lot of meatballs, but if he thinks he was tipping his pitches, and changed something, that is good too. Whether he really was or not isn't relevant. He should be pitching with more confidence.

The other night he was throwing 97-98, got to 100 a few times, and froze a couple of guys with his slider. Make him a starter, but if that fails, this guy should be really good coming out of the bullpen.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 21, 2015 -> 02:32 PM) Good for Jeff, but let's not pretend it wasn't a September makeup game played by two teams playing out the last two weeks of a bad season. 13 left. 5-8 with four losses to the Tigers, please. The only pretenders are the people thinking Trace Thompson's performance the final 2 weeks of the season pulls any weight for 2016.