Dick Allen

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 10:17 PM) You're* Beckham was 9th. I don't care about that. Saladino and Avi are both 9th hitters too. You can't have that many weak hitters in your line up and expect to win. If you don't care about Beckham batting 9th, you probably shouldn't have b****ed about him playing 5 minutes earlier. You are funny, I will give you that.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 10:12 PM) Forgot s***ty ass Beckham was in the line up. So Beckham, Avi, Saladino Yikes. When it was pointed out to you when you insisted Alexei never play what was left to throw out there, you said Beckham would be fine. Your are a classic whiner.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 10:08 PM) Saladino leading off. I don't need to say anything else. He had a hit. I just find it funny you complain when they do the things you want.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 09:49 PM) Ventura threw out a s*** lineup guys. It was hilariously bad. Trace Thompson in vs. The LHP and Soto DHing. Isn't DHing Soto something Robin was an idiot not to do before? Oh and just for you, Alexei not in the line up. He does what you want and you still moan. lMAO.

One problem these days is with cell phones, there are more pictures and videos taken at the park than ever before. The closer some get, the more photos and video they want to document their experience. It is a bad recipe. I am agsinst nets as I hate watching games from behind them, but if it does come to it, and nets are installed, I will understand.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 03:14 PM) I would take Dave Martinez in a heartbeat. They should have taken him the last time around. He stands next to Joe Maddon. That should make him a clone. Why do so many people think this way? Look at your places of employment and look at the better employees and their assistants. Are there assistants just like them? Hell no. Dave Martinez has interview countless times for a managerial job, including the TB Rays where, if he was Maddon's clone, would have been the perfect place for him to start his managerial career. He never gets the job. Why? Anyone who thinks Robin lacks emotion would quickly realize he is the Tazmanian Devil compared to Dave Martinez, who is basically Harold Baines personality wise.

Bringing a glove is fine, and if you are with little kids, or people who don't pay full attention and are close, it could save a lot of trouble. I would rather be required to "lug a glove" to the game in order to sit close than watch behind a net. The net doesn't always save you either. I was in the Scout Seats once in my life. There was a server who would sit on the short wall behind home with his back right up against the net. We kept on asking him to move because he was blocking our view. He would, but would always come back, until a foul ball nailed his back. He wasn't hurt so bad, thankfully, but what a moron. I was about 15 rows back from the Sox dugout on Sunday when a foul ball went into the club level but caromed downstairs and hit a lady right on top of the head. She had no idea it was coming.

Part of his ERA problem was having zero spring training. Using his higher than normal ERA as a defensive failure is incorrect IMO. He has had his games where he has been ripped very hard.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 09:53 AM) Yes, because they didn't make a deal, they obviously didn't listen to any offers... Seriously? If you can't complain about an actual deal, you can complain about a deal that wasn't made that if it was, you would complain about. The Sox obviously needed to make trades, even if they made no sense to the team.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 09:45 AM) I remember both Curt Schilling and Mike Mussina saying they would not play for the White Sox after reports came out the Sox had interest due to their pitching falling apart via injuries in the second half of the season. I also remember Ron Schueler despite a desperate need for pitching going out and bringing back Harold Baines and Charles Johnson at the trade deadline. By the playoffs the pitching staff was being held together by duct tape and the results were predicatble. Such a sad end to what could have been a great season. But typical White Sox luck. Mark In the playoffs, the bats went silent. I doubt Mussina or Schilling make a difference. Charles Johnson was pretty awesome as a White Sox. Big Hurt and Paulie .000 in the playoffs. .182 for Maggs.

They have always said they listen to everything. This is nothing new.

If he cost nothing, I wouldn't mind the Sox picking up Olt. Ther is a 99.99% chance he sucks, but give him the winter and a shot at a Charlotte Knight uniform to see if he can make things click.

QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 04:15 PM) Obviously anyone that wants to see him in the lineup must think he is the savior right? It couldnt be that we may want to see all the young guys play the majority of the time to end this year because the season is over and we already know what we have in the veteran players? You must have missdthe post last game where Trace not starting vs RHP is going to cost the Sox season ticket accounts. BTW, LaRoche 14 starts vs. LHP, not like he was doimg a lot of it. I would lov Trace to be a .450- .500 hitter. I unfortunately feel his numbers thus far in the lower levels probably rule that out.

Obviously Trace Thompson is the new savior. I hope Rick can sign him to a team friendly extension asap, buying out arb and a coupe free agent years.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:55 PM) I'm not even sure what you're suggesting here. The extra $25 million in TV revenue would be allocated somewhere other than revenues? There's a cost associated with that not being included somewhere and thus the White Sox's break even point is even lower than I've suggested? They're going to get $25 million in extra TV revenue and somehow that will result in $40 million in extra payroll spending? Weren't you saying last year the payroll would be $100 million at best? Just remember JR's quote during the infamous "all in" press conference where everyone assumed AJ gone, Pauly gone, no one signed. Dunn signed, AJ back, Pauly back. JR's response to reporters who asked how he could afford it, "You save a little here, a little there". They supposedly are one of the most profitable teams in baseball, and the owners supposedly haven't been taking anything out. They have plenty of money.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 01:50 PM) And you've never made an incorrect call either right? So either tell me where my logic is wrong, tell me where this extra money is, go through the numbers and do it yourself, or I get to bring up your predictions about how well Victor Martinez will age because all you're willing to do is make it personal. Do you use Forbes to determine your money totals? If you do, and you trust their figures to be correct, they are sitting on about a quarter of a billion dollars in profit the last 15 years or so. So any logic about how they have no money is out the window.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 01:05 PM) Both seem to have great range and instincts. I think Saladino has a MUCH better arm. Definitely. The only question with each is are they going to hit? Sometimes it's easy to say no way, sometimes you have to think something is there. On the board the other day it said Sanchez led AL rookies in doubles. Considering how long it took him to get hits, that's pretty impressive. Saladino has struggled lately, but if we judge everyone by their first few hundred plate appearances, we would be right a lot, but miss out on some really good hitters.

Balta has said the White Sox won't be relevant the rest of this decade. He also stated the Cubs reaching the wild card will pay all by itself for Jon Lester's bloated contract, and Balta is never wrong, just ask him. Seems like perfect motivation for going for it again. If you arrive a year too early it's worth over $150 million. Think about what it's worth if it's 3 or 4 years too early.

QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 11:51 AM) Devil's advocate - Let's say the girl in question is making it up. What did Kane do wrong? Have a one night stand? I'm not defending him, either. I think the way athletes and entertainers use women is pretty bad. It's also really dumb for them to put themselves in a situation where they might be accused of something by someone they don't really know. But, I don't think one night stands are uncommon in sports, so I don't see why the Hawks would have a higher standard for Kane in this regard than they would for any of his teammates. Still, trouble always seems to find him. How could anyone be sure if this goes away, there won't be another. The Blackhawks have more information than I do, and supposedly they have asked him to watch his behavior a lot more than has been reported the past several years. If this goes away, he can still bring back an awesome package in a trade. One more incident, which if you had to bet on it, you would have to say the odds favor it, and he may be toast. He's a face of the franchise. He can't keep getting in trouble.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 11:43 AM) Given how players are rushed to the big leagues today (the days when guys like Gary Peters and Joe Horlen spent five years in the minors learning their craft are long gone) maybe it would be to the Sox benefit to actually work with players every day no? ESPECIALLY if other teams aren't doing it. Makes you wonder if the coaches feel they shouldn't have to do it, what exactly do they do and what are they getting paid for. And don't overlook the impact a coaching staff can have, I refer back to this quote from Tony LaRussa when I interviewed him. He was talking about when he first came on-board and the Sox started to develop in the early 1980's: "For a long time coaches were just friends of the manager or guys getting their time in to get a pension. But jerry Reinsdorf recognized that because kids were being pushed to the major leagues earlier, the role of coaches as teachers became crucial. He embraced the idea of putting together the best coaching staff you possibly could, that the staff of a manager should be a force for developing players..." Note the last part of Tony's comment. This team has been putrid fundamentally and baseball stupid overall for the past five years or so. Some of that falls on the players, some on the manager and the coaches. This team was also totally unprepared for this year coming out of spring training. They were on a record pace in terms of poor defense and base running according to Fan Graphs. Again some of that falls on the players but in this particular case the majority of the blame goes to the manager and his coaches in my opinion. Mark Actually, the guys who were pushed are probably Micah, Ventura worked with him every day, Sanchez, he seems to have a clue, who else? It was pretty much a veteran team, yet clueless, so take the easy way, blame Robin. They worked on all the drills in spring training over and over again. For some reason when the bell rung things changed. It happens. Look at Geo Soto. Watch him get loose in LF before a start. Watch him warm up a pitcher in between innings in a game he is not playing. The yips aren't there. He is normal. Sometimes the practice field doesn't translate to the regular game, but they did start out the season with Micah and Conor who are bad defensively. Alexei and Eaton started out bad defensively, and Avi is bad defensively. I know Melky is supposedly bad, but to me he has made too many plays and throws to call bad. The defense killed them, and they couldn't score runs to save their lives.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 08:42 AM) A writer for a small website speculated that the Bulls should trade for Rudy Gay. That led to all these Facebook/Twitter posts reading "BREAKING: Bulls pursuing trade for Rudy Gay." My point is, if you see anything like that, don't believe it; it's all speculation. That being said, Gibson and McDermott for Gay- who says no? Brings back memories of Rick Majerus on TV discussing the draft Gay was in and proclaiming, "I am not a Gay guy". The others on the set were trying not to laugh.

If you have players that reached the major leagues but have no clue when it comes to fundamentals, you have problems other than your major league staff. A major league baseball player on day 1 should understand how the game is played.

That Joe Maddon is a genius. Had them wear pajamas on their flight home. Who, other than a genius thinks of these things? I am really surprised they didn't win last night. It must have been the hangover from winning the WS the night before. Kaplan on his show yesterday, "If I told you the Cubs would be 2-4 on this past road trip, would you take it" Every panelist's answer..........yes. The Cubs can do no wrong in Chicago. A WC team 3rd in their division, and this panel was comparing them to the 2004 Red Sox. This disappointment is going to be tremendous.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 06:24 PM) The average ERA of pitchers across all of baseball at home is 3.71. The average ERA of pitchers across all of baseball on the road is 4.14. The average pitcher, if there was such a thing, is 0.43 runs per 9 innings worse on the road than at home. Therefore, it is totally unsurprising that most Sox pitchers have higher ERAs on the road and the White Sox having a split slightly above average could happen in any given year with a small amount of variance or with one pitcher who really likes pitching at home. Then don't use USCF as a reason Coop can do no wrong. If you are going to use it, shiuldn't they have a split well below average?The 1st inning runs this season have been ridiculous. It hints at pitchers not be ready when the game starts. They seem to be warming up just as much as other teams, but something is missing. Maybe they aren't mentally ready. That would be on the pitching coach. If Coop gets praise for the good, he needs to be ripped for the bad.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2015 -> 05:19 PM) In a ballpark that's generally considered a hitters ballpark and in the AL where you don't have to face the pitcher, you can be one of the best pitching staffs in baseball and still meet that standard. While there are some issues with using it on its own, fWAR is a good double check to see if that fits. Here's where our staff has ranked in that stat in all of MLB over the past 7 seasons: 2015: 5th 2014: 23rd 2013: 16th 2012: 12th 2011: 2nd 2010: 1st 2009: 4th Most Sox pitchers have higher ERA's on the road. Explain.