Dick Allen

Wow, who would have guessed this result? Send his agent some champagne. You dodged a bullet RH.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 12:56 PM) Definitely not a lot of soft contact against him this year Just like last season when some wanted to claim Belisario "unlucky". They were hitting ropes off him at a greater rate because he was meat. Samardzija, except for that string of solid starts right before the All Star Break has been hot garbage.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 12:47 PM) Huh? I'm pretty sure FIP doesn't like HR balls either. His FIP is 4.08, his ERA 4.85. I have watched most of the games. I don't think defense costs him 3/4 of a run per 9 innings, over the number errors do, which is already built into his ERA, unless they want to set up in the seats. Although that is still a HR.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 12:41 PM) One of the following will be written after the season about Samardzija Bruce Levine --- he pitched through injury most of the season due to his loyalty Joe Cowley-----organizational turmoil caused him to lose focus and drive for organization Rick Telander ------pressure of contract status leds to lackluster performanace Dan Bernstein------Cooper no Bosio; Kenny no Theo; Reinsdorf no Rickets; Sox Fans no clue Levine has asked him several times about a possible injury as an excuse. Samardzija has answered he was fine each time.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) He didn't allow a run in the first inning. He will in the second or third or fourth and his FIP will be low because the White Sox don't have outfielders stationed in the bleachers.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 09:34 AM) Sure, but he's right. Most fans aren't catlike corner infielders who can react to a laser hit into the stands. The reality is that to a lot of people, the game itself isn't the only attraction at a baseball game. Now your effing phone shouldn't be one of them, but somebody could just as easily get hit while paying a beer vendor. There's no good reason the fans should be in danger. Just put nets up, it's common sense. Where do the nets stop? I would venture to guess the White Sox are currently being sued by someone hit by a ball in the upper deck. It seems more people are getting hit and injured now than ever before, and IMO, that has to do with cell phones. Email, pictures, internet...people aren't paying as much attention.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 05:50 AM) Yeah, I'm starting to think they'll never find these guys unless they slip up majorly like they confess to someone they trust and someone over hears them, yada yada yada. I wish more info came out about the initial pursuit. Did the cop decide to go after 3 guys alone or was it 1 and during the pursuit, 2 other showed up. I could never put myself in his shoes but I personally wouldn't go after 3 guys in the woods alone. It's very somber here and I guess I'm just doing what ifs to think it could've all been avoided. I think the only way it could have been avoided is if GI Joe didn't do his job. If they really are hanging out in cornfields at night, they have to be tired, hungry, and dehydrated. That is why When I hear they were searching there, it seemed suspicious to me. They probably got in their vehicle after the shooting and drove away.

I just have to figure the perps are long gone by now. Probably watching the hunt for thm on TV. I hope they find something in the cornfield, but I can't see how a day later they would be no farther than 5 miles away.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 10:22 PM) I said, "I forgot s***ty Beckham was playing." Did I say Why was he playing? No I did not. Doesn't matter, you have wanted him in if it meant Alexei was out, which is exactly what happened. Your wish came true and it still got a complaint from you.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 10:17 PM) You're* Beckham was 9th. I don't care about that. Saladino and Avi are both 9th hitters too. You can't have that many weak hitters in your line up and expect to win. If you don't care about Beckham batting 9th, you probably shouldn't have b****ed about him playing 5 minutes earlier. You are funny, I will give you that.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 10:12 PM) Forgot s***ty ass Beckham was in the line up. So Beckham, Avi, Saladino Yikes. When it was pointed out to you when you insisted Alexei never play what was left to throw out there, you said Beckham would be fine. Your are a classic whiner.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 10:08 PM) Saladino leading off. I don't need to say anything else. He had a hit. I just find it funny you complain when they do the things you want.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 09:49 PM) Ventura threw out a s*** lineup guys. It was hilariously bad. Trace Thompson in vs. The LHP and Soto DHing. Isn't DHing Soto something Robin was an idiot not to do before? Oh and just for you, Alexei not in the line up. He does what you want and you still moan. lMAO.

One problem these days is with cell phones, there are more pictures and videos taken at the park than ever before. The closer some get, the more photos and video they want to document their experience. It is a bad recipe. I am agsinst nets as I hate watching games from behind them, but if it does come to it, and nets are installed, I will understand.

QUOTE (AustinIllini @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 03:14 PM) I would take Dave Martinez in a heartbeat. They should have taken him the last time around. He stands next to Joe Maddon. That should make him a clone. Why do so many people think this way? Look at your places of employment and look at the better employees and their assistants. Are there assistants just like them? Hell no. Dave Martinez has interview countless times for a managerial job, including the TB Rays where, if he was Maddon's clone, would have been the perfect place for him to start his managerial career. He never gets the job. Why? Anyone who thinks Robin lacks emotion would quickly realize he is the Tazmanian Devil compared to Dave Martinez, who is basically Harold Baines personality wise.

Bringing a glove is fine, and if you are with little kids, or people who don't pay full attention and are close, it could save a lot of trouble. I would rather be required to "lug a glove" to the game in order to sit close than watch behind a net. The net doesn't always save you either. I was in the Scout Seats once in my life. There was a server who would sit on the short wall behind home with his back right up against the net. We kept on asking him to move because he was blocking our view. He would, but would always come back, until a foul ball nailed his back. He wasn't hurt so bad, thankfully, but what a moron. I was about 15 rows back from the Sox dugout on Sunday when a foul ball went into the club level but caromed downstairs and hit a lady right on top of the head. She had no idea it was coming.

Part of his ERA problem was having zero spring training. Using his higher than normal ERA as a defensive failure is incorrect IMO. He has had his games where he has been ripped very hard.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 09:53 AM) Yes, because they didn't make a deal, they obviously didn't listen to any offers... Seriously? If you can't complain about an actual deal, you can complain about a deal that wasn't made that if it was, you would complain about. The Sox obviously needed to make trades, even if they made no sense to the team.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 09:45 AM) I remember both Curt Schilling and Mike Mussina saying they would not play for the White Sox after reports came out the Sox had interest due to their pitching falling apart via injuries in the second half of the season. I also remember Ron Schueler despite a desperate need for pitching going out and bringing back Harold Baines and Charles Johnson at the trade deadline. By the playoffs the pitching staff was being held together by duct tape and the results were predicatble. Such a sad end to what could have been a great season. But typical White Sox luck. Mark In the playoffs, the bats went silent. I doubt Mussina or Schilling make a difference. Charles Johnson was pretty awesome as a White Sox. Big Hurt and Paulie .000 in the playoffs. .182 for Maggs.

They have always said they listen to everything. This is nothing new.

If he cost nothing, I wouldn't mind the Sox picking up Olt. Ther is a 99.99% chance he sucks, but give him the winter and a shot at a Charlotte Knight uniform to see if he can make things click.

QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 04:15 PM) Obviously anyone that wants to see him in the lineup must think he is the savior right? It couldnt be that we may want to see all the young guys play the majority of the time to end this year because the season is over and we already know what we have in the veteran players? You must have missdthe post last game where Trace not starting vs RHP is going to cost the Sox season ticket accounts. BTW, LaRoche 14 starts vs. LHP, not like he was doimg a lot of it. I would lov Trace to be a .450- .500 hitter. I unfortunately feel his numbers thus far in the lower levels probably rule that out.

Obviously Trace Thompson is the new savior. I hope Rick can sign him to a team friendly extension asap, buying out arb and a coupe free agent years.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 02:55 PM) I'm not even sure what you're suggesting here. The extra $25 million in TV revenue would be allocated somewhere other than revenues? There's a cost associated with that not being included somewhere and thus the White Sox's break even point is even lower than I've suggested? They're going to get $25 million in extra TV revenue and somehow that will result in $40 million in extra payroll spending? Weren't you saying last year the payroll would be $100 million at best? Just remember JR's quote during the infamous "all in" press conference where everyone assumed AJ gone, Pauly gone, no one signed. Dunn signed, AJ back, Pauly back. JR's response to reporters who asked how he could afford it, "You save a little here, a little there". They supposedly are one of the most profitable teams in baseball, and the owners supposedly haven't been taking anything out. They have plenty of money.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 1, 2015 -> 01:50 PM) And you've never made an incorrect call either right? So either tell me where my logic is wrong, tell me where this extra money is, go through the numbers and do it yourself, or I get to bring up your predictions about how well Victor Martinez will age because all you're willing to do is make it personal. Do you use Forbes to determine your money totals? If you do, and you trust their figures to be correct, they are sitting on about a quarter of a billion dollars in profit the last 15 years or so. So any logic about how they have no money is out the window.