Dick Allen

Isn't Maddon anti-cutter?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 02:59 PM) Jackson was coming off a season with a 4.03 ERA and a 3.85 FIP in 190 innings when he was given that contract. His K-rate in the final year of his previous deal (2012) was also better than it was in 2011, so you didn't have an obvious signal of concern that he's about to fall off a cliff like you might think you have with Samardzija's K-rate. Edwin Jackson significantly outperformed Samardzija in his walk year. I will bet you $1000 Samardzija declines the QO.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 11:02 PM) DAVID. FALES. Also Carey was very good too. People forget he's actually younger than Langford who they just drafted this year. Should be interesting to see the cuts. Players pay and gift other teammates for numbers. Cutler should do the same to try to get Fales to give up his last name. It would be a perfect fit.

The great Theo Epstein gave Edwin Jackson $52 million. Samardzija is not going to accept the QO, it's nice fodder for the doomsdayers who like to think the Sox are screwed no matter what they do, but it's a virtual lock they have an additional pick and slot money next June.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 06:55 PM) If this is at all true, it is probably decent news. It means we can probably offer him a QO with a reasonable expectation that he turns it down and leaves. Sullivan still thinks he gets at least $80 million. There is probably no way he would tske it if he loved Coop, but if true, it would seem to cement it. Kaplan did say there was no interest from either side lengthening the relationship. That said, someone not liking their boss isn't so unusual.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 06:46 PM) How in the world are those two thing connected? Sounds like an agenda to me. if Kaplan is correct, the odds definitely increase KW wanting to send him elsewhere. I do think this coming out, which will probably be denied by all parties, will be the "excuse" for his performance.

According to David Kaplan, who has sauces, Coop and the Shark do not get along at all. Apparently their relationship is bad enough Shark was hoping to be traded at the deadline. What this suggests is the offers for Samardzija were about as good as he is pitching lately, as Coop is a KW guy and confirmed spy. Kap said due to this relationship, there is no way the Sox would try to sign him and no way Shark would stay. This is about the 3rd group I have heard who still think Shark can get $80 million, but even if that is incorrect supposedly Shark is so uncomfortable in a White Sox uniform, there is no chance he would take the QO. He also was th first White Sox pitcher since Jon Garland in 2004 to give up a grand slam and still get the win.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 03:26 PM) Whoever decided it, he made a mistake. Eaton has a few bunt hits recently. That was probably his plan. As much as people b**** about Robin and bunting, he's normally very low on the list calling for bunts. In fact, one year, historically low.

QUOTE (Saufley @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 03:11 PM) Coaching staff changes? Yes!! But, we know they have been too loyal to the White Sox franchise and JR won't fire them. Maybe one, maybe Steverson. JR should be more like Steinbrenner. Firing everyone all the time. Wait, he seemed to hire Yankees.

The start of the drive to the playoffs.

Brady cheated and smashed a cell phone. Goodell wanted to try to make up for other poor decisions by suspending him 25% of a season. They used the NFL appeals process. That changed nothing. Went to court, were told to work something out. They didn't. Brady gets off with nothing but a legal bill. It's over. Move on. Play football. Watch him get hurt for a few games when he should have been sitting. I don't like Brady as much as the next guy, and the Patriots do seem to have a lot of scandal follow them, and I don't think that's jealousy or unluckiness. But at this point, enough with deflated footballs. Lets talk about how bad the Bears will be.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 01:29 PM) Seems possible, but for his own interests, it's possible the whole year with the Sox has been a giant headache for him. I don't know that, but maybe he wants to get out of Dodge. I think you take away the things that don't matter, his ND football career, his long hair, his weak facial hair, you realize what is there is a guy who can throw pretty hard, but so many pitchers throw 95 these days, and on days his secondary pitches are working, is tough to face. If anything goes wrong, he's meat. He's usually around the plate.

The mid May signings don't seem to work out well for many.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 01:24 PM) FIP not matching ERA is not 100% defense related, some general luck is factored in there as well. Like it or not it's a way better predictor of future performance than ERA is. But if you want batted ball data taken into account, use SIERA instead, which is an even better predictor than FIP. Samardzija's FIP since the trade deadline is 5.34 anyway, it's not like the advanced stats have liked him much either. The only luck is the luck they get to face him. He's Javy Vazquez with a lower K rate.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 01:16 PM) Pretty sure he wants nothing to do with the west coast again If that is where the money is, I'm sure he would go at this point. I was thinking Yankees, but all those games in Yankee Stadium wouldn't be so good.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 01:13 PM) Serious Q: what does it take for the White Sox to not offer him a QO? Is he there already? They will offer it to him. Some team will give him a longer term for $16 million a year, even if it is for 2 or 3 seasons. He might even be decent for a season if he goes to the correct team. I'm thinking Cardinals or Giants.

Wow, who would have guessed this result? Send his agent some champagne. You dodged a bullet RH.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 12:56 PM) Definitely not a lot of soft contact against him this year Just like last season when some wanted to claim Belisario "unlucky". They were hitting ropes off him at a greater rate because he was meat. Samardzija, except for that string of solid starts right before the All Star Break has been hot garbage.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 12:47 PM) Huh? I'm pretty sure FIP doesn't like HR balls either. His FIP is 4.08, his ERA 4.85. I have watched most of the games. I don't think defense costs him 3/4 of a run per 9 innings, over the number errors do, which is already built into his ERA, unless they want to set up in the seats. Although that is still a HR.

QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 12:41 PM) One of the following will be written after the season about Samardzija Bruce Levine --- he pitched through injury most of the season due to his loyalty Joe Cowley-----organizational turmoil caused him to lose focus and drive for organization Rick Telander ------pressure of contract status leds to lackluster performanace Dan Bernstein------Cooper no Bosio; Kenny no Theo; Reinsdorf no Rickets; Sox Fans no clue Levine has asked him several times about a possible injury as an excuse. Samardzija has answered he was fine each time.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 12:36 PM) He didn't allow a run in the first inning. He will in the second or third or fourth and his FIP will be low because the White Sox don't have outfielders stationed in the bleachers.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 09:34 AM) Sure, but he's right. Most fans aren't catlike corner infielders who can react to a laser hit into the stands. The reality is that to a lot of people, the game itself isn't the only attraction at a baseball game. Now your effing phone shouldn't be one of them, but somebody could just as easily get hit while paying a beer vendor. There's no good reason the fans should be in danger. Just put nets up, it's common sense. Where do the nets stop? I would venture to guess the White Sox are currently being sued by someone hit by a ball in the upper deck. It seems more people are getting hit and injured now than ever before, and IMO, that has to do with cell phones. Email, pictures, internet...people aren't paying as much attention.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 3, 2015 -> 05:50 AM) Yeah, I'm starting to think they'll never find these guys unless they slip up majorly like they confess to someone they trust and someone over hears them, yada yada yada. I wish more info came out about the initial pursuit. Did the cop decide to go after 3 guys alone or was it 1 and during the pursuit, 2 other showed up. I could never put myself in his shoes but I personally wouldn't go after 3 guys in the woods alone. It's very somber here and I guess I'm just doing what ifs to think it could've all been avoided. I think the only way it could have been avoided is if GI Joe didn't do his job. If they really are hanging out in cornfields at night, they have to be tired, hungry, and dehydrated. That is why When I hear they were searching there, it seemed suspicious to me. They probably got in their vehicle after the shooting and drove away.

I just have to figure the perps are long gone by now. Probably watching the hunt for thm on TV. I hope they find something in the cornfield, but I can't see how a day later they would be no farther than 5 miles away.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 2, 2015 -> 10:22 PM) I said, "I forgot s***ty Beckham was playing." Did I say Why was he playing? No I did not. Doesn't matter, you have wanted him in if it meant Alexei was out, which is exactly what happened. Your wish came true and it still got a complaint from you.