Dick Allen

Like what? And you really think the White Sox will attravt all this? Why hasn't it happened yet? There's no market for office towers. Residential is saturated. The 78 isn't the only place hoping for some action. Lincoln Yards can't get anything built, and that's probably a more desirable place to live for people living in higher end units. The plan is all a pipe dream or they would finance it themselves. I wouldn't want to live too close to a ballpark. Too much noise and traffic. Look what's going on in Evanston and Wilmette over something lime 6 concerts a year. Plus is almost guaranteed to cost significantly more than they now claim. Who pays that?

Right and the 78 has 500 million TIF. JR wants 1 billion above that. Good luck.

Amazon creates jobs. How much greater of a head count would the White Sox have in the South Loop. Vs. Bridgeport?

But this deal doesn't do that. Taxpayers are on the hook for shortages. The debt is going to be well higher than before, and there were shortages. And the sales tax in the 78 pays off JRs Park. Those spots will take away sale from businesses not in the 78 where the sales tac theoretically goes to the greater good.

If this was several years ago when Wrigley was going through its reno and Ricketts determined Wrigley Field was not salvageable, and came up with the same plan. I’m guessing most of the people who think this a good idea for the state, and several of them don’t live in the state so couldn’t crare less how IL spends its tax dollars, would be up in arms. i am a White Sox fan. I think the site is better than the one they are at now. I go to games and this would be closer. I work in the loop, above Union Station and this would be very convenient during the week. Everything about it is great except who pays. It would be shameful to give JR this money with all the things that need fixing in Chicago alone, and while he already has a viable home that he helped design.

They will build office towers, which are now dinosaurs. Apartment buildings where most new apartment buildings are half full. And they will be high rent, so those renting in Linoiln Park, Streeterville, the Gold Coast, might move there. So those neighborhoods lose out. Build some bars and restaurants. If people go there, they will be spending money they would have spent elsewhere. Will they get a grocery store? That would be nice, but a good portion of the south side is currently a food desert, and apparently there are no public funds to build a few. jerry got a park built for him 35 years ago. To his speciations. Now he can’t make enough money, please build him another one. They offered him development in the GRF parking lots. He said no, He makes money on the parking spaces. The state did build him free of charge a team store and restaurant. And JR gets all the profit. Unfortunately that isn’t enough for JR to compete with the Clevelands , and Kansas Citys , and Detroits and Minnesotas. The economics part is all a play on words. No new tax, yet there is a new debt that has to be paid with tax money. Hotel tax, locals don’t have to worry about it. Except when there are shortflalls, and with bigger debt, potentially bigger shortfalls. Plus the sales tax there goes to paying down Jerry’s park? There goes the argument that the new neighborhood would be a boon for the city and state.Jr and the developer have many billions of dollars. They have the TIF money. Do the rest themselves.

I think it looks nice. But I’d only need it for baseball which is more than most Chicagoans and Illinoisan need it for, which clearly would be mediocre if ownership didn’t change. I don’t know why anyone would give him that money with how little effort he has but into being anything but mediocre for 43 seasons. But we let JR build a state of the art baseball facility, and look what we got? Letting him do it again would be like letting Rick Hahn generally manage a rebuild after he showed you he had no clue how to build a team. And the area would be mediocre for years. They are banking private business will want to build because the White Sox are there. So it will be a ghost town at worst, a construction site at best for the first several seasons after the park is built.

It’s a $1 billion ask on top of the $500 million TIF that covers the site. For more mediocrity.

If this thing is such a money maker why aren’t JR and Related building it themselves?

I wish someone from the state would tell JR that clearly we aren’t going to be subsidizing $1.7 billion ballparks. He should understand as he doesn’t play on high end free agents.

You have a 100 loss team , projected to be awful. You have very few young guys ready. Yet you sign a bunch off crappy players for clubhouse and leadership reasons. What does that say about your manager?

Eddie Jackson always talked a nice game, but man , he looked like he was afraid of people most of the time.

The Reds paid this guy $22 million last January not to play for them.

It's all year. I posted something about this a couple of months ago. Numbers and names are smaller. Teams with pipping in the front, the pipping will be much tighter. But if you want a jersey, they will have plenty of old ones discounted.

That's been my point. How is Korey Lee going to get much from Stassi and Maldonado if he's hundreds of miles away in Charlotte. Hows the new catching coach going to help him?

the story said there was no muzzle flash. People didn't run, and the injuries would have been more severe had it come from the park. The crazy thing is how 2 bullets can travel around a mile , let alone how ever high they went up,and wind up so close together.

Not yet, but listening to the newscast, it is how it's going down.

JR is popping the champagne today. Not only can he say, see it wasn't my crack staff. Now he's got a we have to get out of this dangerous neighborhood argument.

What he did wrong was have an OBP slightly over .300. That's showing up your teammates.

So was I, and all I did was watch.

When is the announcement the Sox will be changing their main color to Royal blue? When the Royals traded him to Milwaukee several years ago, they got Brett Phillips. Sox won that trade.

Pedro thinks he earned being where he is. Does he realize he was hired by baseball's Moe, Larry and Curly?

You know what really makes a Super Bowl parade even better? People getting shot.

There is no way it's close to a done deal. As a White Sox fan who thinks the new park and location are pretty cool, and as a citizen of Chicago who already had to fund a couple of shortfalls with this tax, I would rather they reallocate the funds this tax creates when the GRF debt is supposedly retired in 2029. How about spending it on getting some of the 1500 cops lost they last 7 years replaced, and making it a better place to live? No new taxes, we have more cops would be a win.I get the TIF money is going to be spent by someone, but this thing is going to cost a s%*# ton more than that. If they say $9 million now, it's probably closer to at least $15 billion if it ever gets built. One potential funding source would be to use increases in property taxes to pay debt on the project, which also would likely require a change in the law.

so you think TIF money is going to be the ask? I'm saying they haven't even mentioned how it's going to be paid for yet, because they are going to be asking for more than anyone has ever asked for before probably times 3 or 4. All so a billionaire who hasn't put the fans anywhere near first the last decade and a half, can have more money when he dies. This will be so drawn out, unless JR and Related shock us all with tons of private financing. And we know that isn't going to happen. And even if it all means some other billionaire with get the funds, good. The State and City have already given JR billions if you think about it. If they don't built GRF, JR goes to Tampa? How would that of worked out? Plus he pisses so many people off, he sells the Bulls before their dynasty. I know its corny, but JR owes us something.