Dick Allen

They owned it for 4 years before anyone ever heard of Covid 19. And wouldn't you think office towers , at least multiple are kind of off the board now? It could be kind of similar to when the Sox moved into their current home. Several of the suites down the lines weren't completed until almost 20 years after the park opened. If the Sox somehow did build a park there, most of the 78 would be a construction or look like a desert probably for a similar length of time.

The Rays are paying $600 million for a 1.3 billion project. Seems similar, hotels, apartments, restaurants. They will have a dome, but costs are higher here, plus no water lines or sewer lines or electric anywhere near, even if the ground is clean, it's going to be expensive. Word is the A's are having trouble getting financing, so who knows what happens there. JR might have lost his fastball, but he's nowhere near John Fisher bad.

Which, considering the amount of residents in IL, and in metro Chicago, the overwheming percentage will never even drive by this place, let alone use it. It benefits JR and his heirs, and probably the developer. BTW, the developer has been sitting on this land for 8 years with all kinds of things that were going to be built. Yet not one shovel in the ground yet. JR to save the day? I doubt it.

When it came down to the final 3, I thought Connor had a 99.9% chance at the job.

This guy has no chance. Even if he is awesome, at least 25% will hate him. And people want the truth. The team is going to suck. JR and Brooks don't allow them to tell the truth.

Correctly would be making the billionaires pay for it.

It helps with DPs, and if you can throw, you'll occasionally get someone at 3B. Also you are a cutoff guy, so it helps. Maybe not as much as other positions, but heing able to throw is a good thing.

Depending how much money they get from the government for free, there will probably be a clause like there was for the Bears when Soldier Field was rehabbed that the team couldn't be sold for X amount of years after the build was done.

Yes, it's more expensive and local governments are actually less likely to pay for these ever growing in expense buildings. Do you really think JR thought when they built their current home, he'd be owning the team when he was 90? The South Loop has changed a bit, but you get in after the change, if the changed is for the better, things are far more expensive.

In 1985 the corner of Clark and Roosevelt was nothing more than weeds and railroad tracks that had been abandoned by the Rock Island five years before. The city needed to build the pipes, sewer lines, power lines, roads, bridges, and subway stops that would serve the new stadium. Reinsdorf wanted to keep the money from parking and concessions. He also didn’t want to pay rent on the new facility. City Hall expected the Sox to foot some of the bill. That was a non-starter as far as the Sox were concerned. Does anyone really think things have changed?

Didn’t write it was an issue. In fact, I’m betting on it. Unless JR announces in the next couple of years he’s building a ballpark on his own with some state and city concessions, we will have to go through what all these towns with ballpark issues had to go through, save Arlington, TX. Rob Manfred is going to have to come to town and tell us how the team can’t possibly compete at their current location, which we were told before, only to build them something where they usually didn’t compete despite have several competitive advantages. And people can fool themselves all they want. JR isn’t putting up his own money to build a 10 figure ballpark.

This will drag out for a while. I'd bet a lot of money that the White Sox don't move when their current lease ends. If, somehow, they do move to the 78, as long as it takes these things to hash out, and then actually build, they will, at the very least, be signing a short term extension.

No way Fisk is there.

That was a fun year. I remember back then some scout was on TV saying if the Bears had Matt Stafford at QB, they would win the Super Bowl.

Buiding stadiums for billionaires and saying how it will benefit us all is the same exercise as trickle down economics. It never adds up in reality.

The easiest place to build a new park is usually in the parking lot of the one it's replacing.

Id rather they spend all these suddenly available PUBLIC funds on fixing up areas where people already live. Maybe even building some grocery stores in areas where they have none, rather than building another area where people who already live in nice areas may move. Maybe if there is some left over, they can use it to try an lower the crime rates including murders, carjackings and armed robberies throughout the city.

You’re talking best case scenario, and that never happens when government is involved. The only people this would work out for are the current owners of the land who have owned it for many years, have had big plans, and still have no shovel in the ground, and JR. I can tell you, if the White Sox get a sweetheart deal whoever the mayor is and whoever the governor is at the time will never get my vote again. Do you even know there is a big problem with the soil? I have read one issue is there are no water lines nearby which will be expensive to get. There are other things the state and city can spend money out that will be more fruitful in the future. The stadium the built the White Sox and the Soldier Field rehab have been only benefited the teams owners.

Depends. Not the whole bill though. This is private property, If it were state or city owned land, for sure Besides if this is such a great deal for the state, it's even better for JR. Let him show us all the money it will make. . It seems hard for me to believe that haven't done tests yet. They have owned the property for some time, an d I would think purchasing the property may be grounds for testing it first.

Infrastructure. I have no problem with that. Anything else, they already have taken the state for a ride.

He's been in that same situation for many years. It hasn't changed him.

So you are saying JR is building the stadium? I'm saying, if he really wants it built, that's what's got to happen.

But he's never operated this way. And guys his age don't change their stripes. It's one of the reasons the Sox won't get it right until he steps away.

Unless JR comes up with a plan to pay for it, this is going to drag on for years. I just can't wait until Manfred waltzes into town saying the White Sox must have a new park. They need a new owner. I used to like JR, but I'm sick of watching him get free money. You gotta love the it's so hard to make money in baseball line he has on one hand, and on the other, he can't sell, his capital gaines tax will be too large.

Very little. What they have paid in rent probably doesn't even cover the upkeep. And they got a free restaurant and team store, for which they pay nothing. For all these gifts, the least JR could do is field a major league team.