Harry Chappas

Barrett said he was only throwing in the upper 80's hurt or healthy that ain't going to cut ot for him.

How many numbers fours are better? Should he have more wins, yes but so should Buerhle (not his fault) and Garland shouldn't have 14 and Hernandez should not have 7. It all evens out look at Freddy. I think he can be maddening as hell but I think he does a good job as our number four guy.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jul 16, 2005 -> 09:15 AM) Don't look now, but the Cubs are in a great position for 2006. They have a $100 million payroll now, and over $20 million coming off of the books. Yes but they have to pay Prior and Zambrano and Maddux is due liek $12M isn't he.

I like this line-up Pods Rowand / Pyz against righties Iguchi Thomas Dye / Everett every other date/ match- up platoon Konerko etc. I think they need to move Rowand into a position to do things with the bat other than hit behind that fool Konerko. I like Iguchi 2nd and Rowand 3rd with Thomas 4th.

The date doesn't work for me

It is not about giving up. It is about being consistent. Stop swining at first pitch balls in the dirt, 2-0 pitches that are popeed up or again swung at in the dirt. Fight off tough pitces by hitting them foul not popping them up or weakly rolling out. Everyone insists on pulling the ball. Our starters (all of them) and bullpen are winning games we need more consistent offense.

I think it is time to move konerko down to 6 or 7 and put Thomas fourth. konerko is now on pace to have under 100 rbi. Inexcusable if Iguchi is going to give up at bats for no just cause becasue this asswipe can't drive anyone in. Konerko and Jenks for Thome/Wagner and Cash (lots of cash)

The downside to being 12 games up....... No more KW must go threads. Maybe I'll start one over the Shingo handling.

While watching the last two games I have come to a conclusion. Neither of the Cubans can pitch out of the bullpen, should they be needed. Assume they come in with a runner on. Average/Decent speed = stolen base, not what you want late in a game. Think of the impact this had with Brian Roberts lasytyear. That isn't really even the half of it. They need time to establish themselves in a game and work with their stuff over the course of the game. In relief I think they would be a nightmare. Have either of them ever pitched out of the pen????/ I like both of these guys to round out a rotation. They can get hit around and are tough to watch from times but over-all I am fine with the five we have. Now here is my point. If we make the playoffs, both of them should not be on the roster. Every reliever can pitch in every game, you do not need a long man. This is where I think we need to add a reliever, a good one, and send Jenks down. For the playoffs, and correct me if I am wrong, we can still add Jenks to replace a starter (as long as he is on teh 40 man) thereby adding a reliever now, send Jenks down for six weeks and go at it in September with him and see what the pen has.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 19, 2005 -> 10:51 AM) Shingo is not a "long" reliever. Adkins can give us 5 or 6 innings if we need someone to eat innings. Baj was mentioned as a long man earlier, yet he's been a closer all season, so he wouldn't qualify for that role either. How does Hermanson getting hurt require getting a long reliever? I would think that we would try to get Shingo back in order if we need a closer rather than try to create one with Jenks, Marte, Cotts, Polittee , etc. Of these guys Shingo has the experience for this the rest have failed in this capacity without ever having success. Do not mess with what they are doing well. Will he get the job done? Who knows but he has done it previously. Put Hermanson on the DL reinstate Shingo and go from there. In two weeks see what happens. This makes more sense that Jenks, Adkins, Baj etc.

Why not Shingo?

The wave aside, I have no preference although I do not do it, it does get the crowd going. They shoudl do it only between inning s and when the other team is batting. Last night was very interesting. I park on the street a few blocks away from the park and there were parties all throughout the neighbothood. The tailgatign was huge as well. It really felt like a Sturday. The crowd was also great, no fights and I am in the bleachers. Can't beat the Living on a Prayer sing along

QUOTE(ceffa2000 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 03:43 PM) How many tix sold for tomorrows? I'm going tomorrow and I'd love to see the place full. AS of yesterday, they had well over 30K a game except for tomorrow which was at 19.5K.

Let's see, some teams in dire need of bullpen help, Yankees, Red Sox.... I'd hate to see the frisbee come back to haunt us although I get the feeling there is an impending trade for a reliever, Eddie G. Seattle is a big Japanese hotbed and they have Ichiro. Shingo did well for us and I think this would be a good move for him. Wheather Iguchi and he are friends or not, they had a-lot in common and had to be friends. Somehow this had a big impact on Timo sticking around. This makes no sense.

How do Vizcaino and Jenks stay yet Shingo is let go. This does not make sense to me I really do not see how we are a better right now.

Imagine how many RBI Ordonez would have this year hitting fourth and how many Konerko has. I do not like Paul Konerko. With the guys he has in front of him he should have around 80 RBI not 60.

My point was more toward the accolades he seems to go out of his way to shower upon former teammates.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 06:28 AM) Konerko came to the Sox in 98 or 99. Who was a better player than Magglio since that time? Mark Buerhle or Royce Clayton

For tax purposes this is a charitable contribution for the the $10K less the fair value of the services provided. Seeing as JR does not do this for a living, there is $0 allocateed to him and they did not rent anything out nor is there a value for standing on the field so for this they get a $10K charitable contribution on their taxes. If they have money and were going to contribute to a charity anyway, what the hell. These things are all for White Sox charities correct? If they pay this and get some sort of reception, the fair market value of the reception is removed from the $10K.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 15, 2005 -> 10:48 AM) In a sense it would open up a spot for Ross Gload and I think to an extent Gload can do similar things to Carl Everett. Of course thats a rather large risk because I tend to think Carl is one of those guys that keeps the team loose (but I could be wrong). If Gload can do similar stuff for us as Everett why couldn't it do far more cheaping, younger and longer term for another team??? I think he may be the guy moved as he has to have something done with him by Monday as this is when his rehab stint ends.

I have yet to go watch JR play a baseball game so he personally never has nor will he ever affect my decisions regarding the white sox. Blame Schueler for the white flag, he made the f'ing trade. If you think JR can spearhead a full scale lock-out (94) your an idiot. This point has been beaten to death so far it is disgusting. The things he does for players, yes he pisses some off, and for the community as a whole is increadible. Blame him for the Balck Sox scandel while you are at it.

Boston with Schilling as a starter and Foulke closing is tough. We will not see this New York's rotation is a disaster. Cleveland is beatable, the toughest of the three but beatable. Relax and forget about the A's they are hot and we ae done with them.

A couple of things. Without selling another ticket, the Sox will draw 1.9M fans this season not bad. Do not confuse bandwagon fans with fans that are more willing to shell out dough because the team is winning. People that go to 0-3 game normally now are going to 5-7. As well as people with an option Navy Pier - Sox Game (families, tourist) are going to Sox game now rather than Navy Pier. That does not make them Bandwagon fans. I was at 21 games last year. This year I have been to 19 and have 10 more games in hand, will end up around 35-40. Did I hop on the bandwagon. There are different levels of fandom.

No one is confusing Konerko with Keith Hernandez. Yesterday was nice. I like Konerko and wish he earned his $10M. If he and Thomas at the end of the year put up numbers worthy of $10M/season. We will walk away with this divison.

I have been posting this since mid April. ANY other REASONABLE (Dye, Everett, Crede, Uribe, AJ, Rowand) player on this team would ahve better numbers than konerko. He was a main reason we failed in 2003 and is keeping the offfense stagnant this year. Look at the runs Pods and Iguchi have scored and look at konerko's numbers. He is there to drive these guys in and he does it by default not because he is a good hitter. He can scoop really well and throw but has zero range. As for next year, Thomas, Dye, Gload and Everett are your RF, 1B, DH combos next year unless konerko takes $24M/6. The pressure is on him as Thomas and he are the only FA's of note in the offseason and a-lot of arb eligibles. Who do you think they will resign????? If konerko isn't a clubhouse leader, you need to be in there to decide this answer, I feel he will be gone to the Braves or Mets (Doug M.)???????? Lee plays everyday for the cubs and he is carrying his weight, why can't konerko?