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QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 05:51 PM) Did you even read the link: Indictments come at the drop of a hat. I guess the Black Sox were convicted no questions asked because they had an indictment against them. Oh wait no they didnt. http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1446555 A lot of people are going to be sad when Bonds is not guilty, whats funny is none of the legal experts on ESPN seem to think that its such a slam dunk. Most are saying its a hard conviction and very strange it took so long, and that relying entirely on Anderson may be risky. Do you even care that he has used steroids?

Funny that some people do not care he's guilty, only if he can be convicted.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 05:23 PM) (my poem: inspired by jim and his clearly LSD induced poem about finding love in all the wrong places) this I'd expect from Southsider or the Kap(tain) but I must admit it got me a-laughin' The more I did think, the label was never fitter It's like having first try at the pick of the litter... Indeed there are many things that people can mutter but 'tis as they say, "there goes Jim, the pumpkin Fu#$er"

So many thoughts. First off, if ex-cons cannot get jobs, they will commit more crimes. So in general I support hiring ex-cons. But I also believe making an "error" on your application should be an immediate adios, you're fired.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 04:35 PM) Convict. We have things like the pound etc to take care of stray animals. If we let people just start shooting cats, dogs, etc, where does it end? It is legal in Texas to shoot ferel cats. Just like shooting hogs, deer, javelinas, coyotes, doves, geese, and other animals.

It just gives the Bond's apologists more to apology for. Go away Mr. Bonds.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 03:57 PM) As White Sox fans, I think we are pretty used to this. Money is a big factor even though the White Sox have spent more money than most teams. One bad move makes a bigger difference for the White Sox than for other teams. Just think of Matt Clement. Many here thought he was a perfect fit for the White Sox in 2005, and supposedly the Sox made a competitive offer. If he would have accepted, chances are there wouldn't have been playoffs in 2005 let alone a title, and revenues would have been very different. This team would look a lot different just because of that one move. It does take some of the excitement out of it, but it also shows that spending the money can pay off in the long run if it brings a winner. Who would have thunk 3 years ago the White Sox could put a team on the field that lost 90 games and still drew nearly 3 million. And how do we know that not spending a couple million stopped the 2000 team? It's an impossible argument, based on a huge unknown to the fan, how much could the team actually spend. And I don't think one bad move hurts the Sox more than other teams. Clearly the team can afford a payroll in the top 20% of MLB teams. It's the teams with a $60 mil payroll that can't make mistakes.

http://www.themonitor.com/sections/border/ Just in case anyone is interested in the coverage regarding The Border Wall, where it really matters, on the border.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 03:46 PM) I think it's not discussed because it's obvious Hunter/Rowand/Jones in CF makes the 2008 Sox better than the 2007 Sox. It's not really a discussion that needs debate. Giving one of those players a 7 year deal to play CF is another story, one that is good for 200+ posts..... But for many, the most important difference between the three is money.

Maybe he stays the token REP so the Washington Post can point to him and claim to be balanced.

I really do not want to beat this into the ground, but when we spend 90% of our time worrying about how a player will fit into the payroll, and 10% how they fit on the field, it seems out of whack. We really do not know how much they can spend. The payroll always feels fair, but who knows. I also think it kills the casual fans and kids from becoming avid fans. But hey, debate on. It takes armchair GMing to greater heights, and that's good.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 12:17 PM) While a fair question, it's not that simple, and you know it. I know you don't like hearing about the $ and how much a player is making/worth, but it's part of the game, now more than ever. You can ask the question, "Which guy makes us better" but there are a few different ways to look at it. -This team has payroll restrictions, simple as that. While Hunter could provide better numbers than Rowand, at what cost is he providing them at? Because the Sox have Hunter instead of Rowand, do the Sox have to trade away another expensive piece to pay for the production Hunter is providing? -What about in 2012? 2013? You don't want to think about it now, but there have been numerous threads about how Jose and his contract are basically unmovable right now, and how he is tying up 10 million that can be used elsewhere. Can you imagine the threads about Hunter and his 15+ million that he is making when he is 36? Is that going to make the team better? It's just not that simple of a question. Great reply, I just like to remind people where the team's media coverage really matters. On the back page of the newspaper, not the business section. If you knew the team had higher profits in 2007 than 2005 would you be ?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 01:25 PM) Well if they miss out on the large mix, this is what you will get at soxfest. Hawk at Soxfest "You know who I think is going to have a superstar breakout year, Jerry Owens. I am so glad that Kenny was so wise not to sign a guy to a large crazy contract. I mean I love Aaron Rowand and Torii Hunter is a superstar, but something about speed. You know speed doesnt slump. Stats don't tell the whole story of a players worth. Dont tell me that you hit it, tell me when you hit it. Remember the magical season in 05, what got us there. That would be Scott Podsednik and small ball. I love Ozzieball" I can hear it so well

One year from now and Rove will be just another liberal whore in the media.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Nov 10, 2007 -> 08:24 PM) I think that one was from Jim's retirement village's annual Olympics.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 01:21 PM) My God... Half man, half tree. grrrrrrroooooooooooooosssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!

Raking leaves, what a pain tall palm trees, line my lane Cold front blows, down to sixtyfive. Good to be alive my polyphonic prose

CBS sportsline is freaking out. They are sending me three emails a minute with old game starts and finals.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 11:41 AM) If you're that much bettter than the other team, it's a no win situation. If you take a knee, it's like taking pity on the other team and it comes across as arrogant. If you continue to score, it's seen as running up the score. The bigger issue for the better team, especially at this point in the season, is balancing playing your starters, keeping them sharp, and potentially running up the score or resting your starters at the risk of hurting your team's chances in the next round.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 15, 2007 -> 11:55 AM) The question is going to be is Rowand worth 12 million to the Sox? Or is Hunter worth 15 million to the Sox? Those are all questions Kenny will answer for us, shortly. Is the question ever which guy will make us a better team?

Thank you. Great analysis

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 13, 2007 -> 07:19 AM) When was the last time the Sox were outwardly looking to spend huge dollars on a FA? Its been a while. It will be more interesting what the under the radar moves are... Bingo! I have total faith that Hunter will be running around center field at the Cell next season. I just think it is a very low chance it will be in a White Sox uniform.