Texsox

Let's write a new law. How small of a bill should they prosecute? $20, $50, $100? Basically, as soon as you come up with a number, in theory, every tax payer could short their bill that amount. Multiply that by millions of tax payers, and you will have a better understanding why there isn't a minimum before prosecuting.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 02:14 PM) Signing up with Cingular was you first mistake. Call them daily and b**** about every single thing that goes wrong and try to get out of your contract. They are basically a criminal organization as far as I am concerned. Their customer service personel use fake names, so that when they tell you they are going to do something, you can find them to prove it. Don't EVER sign up with Cingular wireless. Never had a problem with them. From time to time, I've put my "extra" phones on Sprint, T-Mobile, and Verizon and always came back to Cingular. It is probably the area you live. Verizon was by far the worst service I have had in 15 years.

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 02:18 PM) My standard reply #1 to Nuke's incessant trolling (@ Post #11) My standard reply #2 to Nuke's incessant trolling (@ Post #7) QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 02:45 PM) Fair enough. Post 13 becomes my standard response to your shrill babble. Do they still make paint by numbers kits? They could package a debate by numbers kit and include it free. Both extremes embarrass the bulk of the voters. One issue I see as a conservative Democrat, or as a liberal Republican, is both parties want all or nothing. Either you agree with everything the party tosses out, or you are ostracized. The Dem party faithful don't like to here my gun control speech, and the GOP party faithful don't like to hear my anti-death penalty stance. Neither party wants to hear me tell them to quit spending so much money, quit giving tax cuts until their is a budget surplus, pay down the debt, don't borrow from countries that don't support out values, act responsibly, quit being petty and vindictive when you lose, act like statesmen, etc.

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Nov 7, 2005 -> 08:43 AM) Some find Milton to a very arrogant and manipulative writer and other find him inspiring and love the challenges he brings to you as you read his work. It should provide a healthy stream of debates during class. But y'all know me, I hate to debate

Looking over next semester, the convienent English class is Milton of Paradise Lost fame. Anyone a fan? I'm trying to decide to take it or not.

I just went to order that book, it was listed under fiction

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) i totally agree. Just like those uppity blacks in the 1960s. They should have just gone back

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 10:27 PM) Tex, while it may indeed contain accusations about other contractors, the story as linked mentions only Halliburton. Also, if the audits are still continuing, as reported, why say these things now? You have the whole figure put out there, and only the name of Halliburton, when there may be other contractors involved, and the final tally may be less. Releasing this info to the public serves no good except to inflame an already tense region even more, and to tweak Georgie. If the audits are turning up problems, they may have a legal obligation to report the findings, I'm not certain. We've seen the opposite, where s*** hits the fan and we learn a company has been under investigation, yet the government continued to use them, and then it looks like a Keystone Cops movie. I don't think the UN, the auditors, or the US government has an obligation to cover for Halliburton. But, if as you say, it was to make someone look bad, I think it was to make the US look bad, not just the President. I am also a little leery when the press is expected to control information and only release it when it won't do any damage. I am certain Clinton would have preferred Monica to break after he was President. Using this example, the Starr investigation would have happened in secrecy, and nothing reported until it was "proven".

Mercy! What is wrong with our society when these poor women are forced to use a restroom stall. They should have been allowed to use a booth in the bar

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 07:56 PM) So we have yet another unnamed source giving info that is presumed to be true. No, that isn't the case at all. What we have is a named, international, multi agency, auditing board giving the information and their accusations. We also have an unnamed UN board member confirming and discussing possible UN actions and what they would like to do with all the contractors, not just Halliburton, if those accusations are true. It is tough to keep track without a scorecard.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 02:35 PM) Yeah, even though they're sitting on the board. Independent indeed. No one on the UN board is also on the audit team, I'm not certain where you are picking that up. There was one UN board member who gave background information to the reporter, but the UN Board member did not wish to give him name, to avoid the appearance it was an official announcement from the UN.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 02:08 PM) Yes I do. However, with their rush to accuse without anything to back it up I wonder just how "independent" this agency really is. Unfortunately, without any objective evidence this whole thing just stinks. War is popular because of all the profits that spring from it. Young men and women die, and investors smile. I wonder of we could take out the profit motive, make elected officials take the lead in a charge or two, how many wars would be avoided.

I was also thinking some of Clinton's sexcapades as well.

You do realize it was an independant auditing board that is making the accusation? Do you really want the UN investigating this themselves?

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 01:49 PM) I stand corrected Tex. Since the U.N. has proven to be extremely adept at plundering Iraq ( they did it for 8 years so they at least have experience on their side ) they should know theft when they see it, evidence be damned. The only thing Haliburton has been caught doing wrong is overcharging on fuel and the Congress made them pay for it. Until they come up with some concrete evidence the U.N. needs to keep its collective mouth closed because they are the only proven thieves between the 2 of em. So who should blow the whistle? If the UN discovers that billions are missing, what should they do? Wouldn't keeping their mouth shut be corrupt and covering up?

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 01:40 PM) I dont disagree that the book is divisive ( thats probably why I can't wait to get my hands on it ), I just get tired of hearing the lefties in the media paint the right as the dividers while leaving the left untouched. We're on the same page on that point. And it is a bi-product of politics in America. I don't remember when it happened, but all of a sudden, people started defending crappy behavior and government because it was "our side". If you vote for a guy, and he screws up, you should be *more* upset. Instead, we feel like we need to defend the guy and the opposition wants to pile on any minor infraction. When supporters demand more from their candidates, then we'll get back on track. That will not happen because there are no multi million dollar campaigns and radio shows calling for it.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 01:43 PM) My experiment is a failure. I was hoping someone would say "you're kidding right" but everyone overreacted and came out blazing with the "cruel and unusual", "you're a pshyco" tack. Come on Tex, even I can't agree with something like that! But it seemed so you . . . I was hoping someone would point out that since we kill criminals, isn't something like chopping off thumbs less harsh and reasonable?

Nuke, riddle me this. A city lines up and starts chopping thumbs off petty criminals, is it in Iraq, Somalia, or the US?

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 11:53 PM) Funny how leftists like you are so quick to believe reports of American corruption stealing money from Iraq which are written and dissiminated by an organization ( The U.N. itself ) which wrote the book on corruption and stealing money from Iraq and did so for about 8 years. Never mind that the source is 10 times as corrupt as the corporation which is supposedly doing all this theft. Never mind that there is no evidence in their report, just accusations. I do agree with 1 of your points though. The dumbing down of America IS nearly complete. It is YOU and those who think like you who are leading the charge. You wrote it's not our money, what did you mean? Which is better quick to believe, investigate, and determine what is correct or quick to ignore and make excuses? The GOP has their ditto heads defending anything and everything. How did Republicans think before the GOP Radio Network? Now Rush tells it on his show, and all the GOPerheads shout ditto Rush, bow, and say it must be true. Nice to see you are keeping score and as long as Halliburton isn't as corrupt as other companies, they must be OK. The GOP doesn't want you to believe any media sources that criticizes it, and you take their party line hook line and sinker. The GOP wants the Judicial branch to not use it's Constitutionally given rights and has been mounting a activist judge campaign for years. Talk about rewriting the Constitution! Let's say Halliburton did steal millions from the UN. Who can make the claim and have you believe an investigation is necessary? The UN is 10X more corrupt, so they can't. The media has a liberal bias so they can't. I guess Chaney's old company just gets a pass.

QUOTE(Mercy! @ Nov 6, 2005 -> 01:04 AM) If they'd cut off his thumbs, then he wouldn't have been able to open those little cans of cat food. Then they would have had to send the cat to the Mayor of Las Vegas to raise. And you know he would probably have the animal declawed at the first signs of trouble. And the thumbless guy would have to go on welfare and be supported by all those hard-working, thumb-choppers. Silly Mercy!, there would be no welfare. Work or die.

Some good advice from the mayor of Las Vegas, "cut off their thumbs". If France had the death penalty and just rushed these rioters directly to the electric chair the same night, the rioting would end in one night.

I have to score this Mercy! 2 Nuke 0 Play on this is fun.

they should have cut off his thumbs

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 04:24 PM) First of all it was not our money. Second of all, there is no evidence included in their report, just accusations. Third. Halliburton was punished by Congress and forced to pay fines when they got caught overcharging. This report is total nonsense. LOL. First off I vote for individuals, but you all play ditto heads and vote for any GOP who happens to be on the ticket. First the GOP gets you to denouce one third of the governement, the Judicial branch. Then they get you to ignore any media that criticizes them. Then they get you to defend anything they do because it's your guys. Now you'll defend any GOP led business??? :headshake The dumbing down of America is almost complete.

A man came home from work, sat down in his favourite chair, turned on the TV, and said to his wife, "Quick, bring me a beer before it starts." She looked a little puzzled, but brought him a beer. When he finished it, he said, "Quick, bring me another beer. It's going to start." This time she looked a little angry, but brought him a beer. When it was gone, he said, "Quick, another beer before it starts." "That's it!" She blows her top, "You b@stard! You waltz in here, flop your fat a-ss down, don't even say hello to me and then expect me to run around like your slave. Don't you realize that I cook and clean and wash and iron all day long?" The husband sighed. "Damn, it's started!"