Texsox

A single glove freaks me out. If he added a couple sequins, it would really be creepy.

QUOTE(Mr. Zero @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 06:41 PM) You guys banned him already, at least show the decency to not talk behind his back. He asked ManofSteel to post he was coming back. I only mentioned he was the expert on American Dad and wished he was around to offer insight. IIRC he knew way more than anyone about the new series. He was the first to post the link to the new series and download the preview.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 05:39 PM) Beastly said he "did a lot for us" and I'm stating that we never got anywhere with Ordonez. We've never gotten anywhere with Buehrle or Frank either, but at least they are class guys who don't take their cheap shots through the media like Jagglio is doing. He knows damn well that KW didn't bury him, so he should keep his mouth shut. Look at the quotes in the paper, Maggs has run his mouth while KW has handled this situation with class like a professional. Buerhle spoke lovingly about the Cardinals and Frank has spoken about being mistreated and the club not showing respect. The Club alllowed an All-Star player to leave with zero to show for it. You would think the guy single handed stopped the team from a World Series. Geez, he got a better deal somewhere else and took it. No one is calling Hermanson a greedy sob for turning down his last offer and becoming a free agent. Give the guy a break.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 05:33 PM) Like take us far in the playoffs...oh nevermind we never got anywhere. We talking about Buerhle, Frank, or Maggs?

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) Dye, Hermanson, Podsednik, Vizcaino, Hernandez, Peirzynski, Iguchi > Percival, Ordonez The realities of small market spending in baseball. Instead of having those guys and Maggs, we have to settle for one or the other. A problem teams like the Yankess and Red Sox wouldn't worry about.

QUOTE(Frank the Tank 35 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 03:44 PM) I don't think anyone has touched on this subject yet, so... The problem with homeruns is that they're rally killers. Once someone hits a homerun, the bases are again empty, and the pressure on the defense and pitching has lightened. Having runners on base puts constant pressure and more tension on the other team's defense and pitching. Errors become more costly because they can score runs. Hanging a pitch is an even bigger mistake because instead of a having to hit a homerun to score someone, only a single is necessary. It becomes harder for a pitcher to concentrate when he has to think about the guy on first or second stealing. He has to work out of the stretch, etc, etc. This team was designed with the '03 Marlins in mind, especially since Ozzie saw it work firsthand. I could personally care less if this year's team doesn't max out on homers (although I would like to see Thomas hit number 500 in a Sox uni) because with the speed on the basepaths that we now have, we should be able to score just as many runs or more. I would rather have the runs on the scoreboard than runners on base. You eliminate double play possibilities as well. The goal is to score runs. You are correct it does take some pressure off the pitcher, it also takes pressure off the hitter. He doesn't have to worry about hitting behind the runner. Protecting the steal, getting out of rhythm with tosses over to first.

QUOTE(Yoda @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 05:13 PM) "Is that you Osama!?" Family Guy still looks better though. that was good.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 05:12 PM) Although his money grubbing of late has made me sarcastically start referring to him as Whore-donez, I'm trying not to forget his contributions to the White Sox over tthe last 8 years. So who is going to bring the "Whore-donez" banner to the park and get on TV so I can live vicariously through them? Ligue and his kid are available

QUOTE(Man Of Steel @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 03:19 PM) and btw texsox, KnuckleSox IMed me and told me to tell you "Hes coming Back" but I dont think he is, but he told me to say it so I did Why would he want to come back, he's got his own site now

First of all, the UN has been political from the very beginning. An early split was over membership. Some wanted any and all countries, others did not. With money, power, and prestige, come corruption and selfish interests. Both on part of individuals and from countries. The rich and powerful wanted control, hence the security council and the permanent members.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 03:18 PM) Losing what little credibility they have would hurt them a lot. I don't think he'll see 6 or 7 either. I think there's a good chance he won't see 2, 3, 4, or 5 either. I think he plays 2-4 or 5. He may be spending some quality time as DH, which isn't so bad. Baines enjoyed a nice long career after he couldn't play the field so well.

QUOTE(YoungstownIndians @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 03:09 PM) Hey man even in the PM I sent back to you I said you could! I am here to post. Thats it. The sig is just there! And I got the right to say I hate the Sox. Even without a link! How about a weekly Tribe update? It would be nice to read an Indian fans view of the central. Think the Tigers wll be a factor?

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 03:09 PM) The options vest. If he meets those requirements, the options vest. I can't see why the $105 mill couldn't be made while only playing 2 full years. Tex, that is plate appearances, not AB's. If he has 470 AB's but 70 walks, the options still do vest as he has 540 PA's. I just wonder if Detroit wouldn't intentionally have him not play during those last two years if he isn't producing well. It wouldn't surprise me, and I actually think it would be the wise thing to do. That (not playing him) was mentioned on one of the Tiger's boards. The downside for the team is they loose credibility with other players if they want to include incentives for other players. One homerun short of $500,000 and worry about getting benched. The only way these incentives work is both sides need to be fair. I doubt he'll see years 6 and 7.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 03:04 PM) How about throwing monopoly money at him? That has always been one of my favorites. the classics never go out of style.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 03:02 PM) If I am understanding it right, the last two years are team options. I think the max they are stuck with is $75 mil. It isn't optional if he meets some games played or AB goals. I think it's 135 games played the previous year or 270 over the previous two. There is also an AB target. I wonder if walks count in the AB target.

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 02:47 PM) From the Overheard in NY page: Gen X Girl on cell: ...yeah, totally. It's like, last night, I had sex with this guy and the condom broke. And like I'm ovulating. And I like totally can't remember this guy's name. Whatever. --M31 bus friend: "think of the richest guy you slept with the past two weeks, and that's him"

QUOTE(Queen Prawn @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 02:38 PM) C) none of the above. agreed. We could have one round of boos for all the greedy a$$holes like Hermanson who switched teams for more money.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 02:35 PM) He did have the surgery in Germany but the rehab was done in the US with a physical therapist. Usually only the physicians get the credit but anyone who has had back surgery especially when it has progressed to the point where there is muscular atrophy the rehab is also very important. However your point is well taken. Many of the more famous physician are outside of the US partly due to the freedom they have to do procedures not approved in the US. Agreed, the after care is often as important as the surgery. My point was this Doctor was the only one to diagnose the condition accurately. It was just mentioned that the Doctor that Maggs used is well known to soccer players. I assume that knee injuries are common in soccer players.

He was able to stand up and walk. That's a good sign.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 02:04 PM) Ah, ok gottcha. We, mere Message Board posters, knew the Sox were done with Maggs WELL BEFORE the Boras hire. If this reporter was really tapped into his story, he would have known ties were severed long before the Boras hire. Maybe he's just implying it signaled the end to the casual fan, because it was over well before that. With the injury there was a slim chance, at least officially, hadn't both sides agreed to discuss the situation after the season ended? Anyway, hiring Boras was the final straw IMHO. Any hope was squashed on that day. Which leaves Crede IIRC as the only Boras client on the roster.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 01:56 PM) The decision to not sign with the White Sox was made before the Boras hire. Signing Boras was to assure he'd get the most on the market, knowing full well he wants nothing to do with the Sox and Kenny and co. want nothing to do with him. Just MHO. Exactly. Which is why I was wondering why you disagreed with

QUOTE(mreye @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 01:52 PM) She was on Fox News today. She looked like you would probably imagine. Were you unable to eat after seeing her? Did you have nightmares? Maybe you could sue her

With the history between Boras and the White Sox, it was a signal that Maggs wasn't interested in a White Sox contract. It is not secret that Reinsdorf and Boras don't see eye to eye. If Maggs really wanted to stay with the Sox, he could have picked anyone but Boras.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 01:26 PM) It's off-topic but let's finish it. I didn't read anything suggesting the school did not provide a tutoring resource over the summer. It's common for tutors to be available during summer school so I find that kind of odd. But let's say your assumption is right. In the absence of a resource the teacher has in effect assigned a take home test. That is likewise not uncommon in universities over breaks. It's a useful means to do skills assessment on students. Even if they seek help on thier own that process will increase their aptitude. So assigning such work is not unjustifiable. What is unjustifiable is grading that work. As long as the teacher assigns such work as Pass/Fail where as long as a reasonable effort is made to work each problem the student passes then the assignment is both reasonable & justifiable. But if the teacher assigns a grade that would impact the student's GPA then I would agree with the student's right to sue the school on that basis. No take home test should ever impact a student's GPA. This was a High School class, not University. At least in my kid's cases, the assignment counted towards their grades. Again, the summer reading I agreed with.It is difficult to try and finish a 600 page book during the school year. It is a great way to introduce longer works. Kids who transfer in are at a big disadvantage, and we have a lot of transfers here.

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 7, 2005 -> 01:03 PM) Unfortunately.. they were not given the choice to express their suggestions. Unfortunate? I think it was fortunate and here is why. If he was going to be able to play under the current contract they should have been involved. Once it was clear that he was not going to be playing under his current contract, I think the team did the smart thing and stayed out of it. This way Maggs has no one to blame but himself for this course of treatment. Imagine if the Sox recommend a treatment, it goes poorly, and they don't offer him a contract or arbitration? Wouldn't he have a right to complain? The club did the smart thing and stayed out of it. Now if he was under contract for 2005, or there was a chance he could have still played in 2004, the team should have been involved every step of the way. But get involved with a person's treatment for no reason other than you may want to offer him a contract? Not a responsibility I would want to have.