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QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 12:55 PM) One reason I have Insurance through the Knights of Columbus: They ar the only insurance priovider that covers a baby in the womb. Just FYI. I assume that is life insurance and not health insurance you are speaking of. Plenty of health insurance plans cover the baby in the womb.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 12:32 PM) If not a White dominated society, which I suppose is correct, then what's the other option? What constitutes an equal society? What could possibly occur which would change a Lexus Dealer's prejudice, or a neighborhoods misconception of a certain race? Several of the options you listed are impossible to improve. However, if a middle-eastern individual feels he's been unfairly discriminated, there's laws enacted which forbid racial profiling. If a political candidate believes his progress is being held down, then he can seek justice. I agree various approaches to creating an equal society are wrong, but seriously, what approach would be beneficial to everyone? Perhaps nothing but time and a population shift. But one step is for "whitey" to recognize it still isn't a level playing field. Pointing smugly to Bill Cosby and others and thinking society as a whole doesn't have a problem, that it's the minorities fault, isn't going to help. Cosby is right in that there are problems within the black community as well, and they must be addressed. But the rest of society shouldn't see that as an excuse to stop trying and fix theirs.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 12:10 PM) I agree that affirmative action, wherever it's practiced, is wrong. I also agree in principle that proprety taxes being used to fund education creates a lopsided playing field but I'm kind of at a loss as to how to remedy that. Seems to me that any other funding formula would create a zero-sum game regarding education dollars. One proposal here in Texas that is being talked about is creating some standard school building plans. Why re-invent school each time a district builds a new building? Have some standard plans and create a statewide building fund to build the schools. Texas has a Robin Hood program where some schools share their bounty. The money then has to flow through the state. I've been on the fence with school vouchers for some time. I do not want a program that pulls money out of public schools without pulling students out. I think every taxpayer has an obligation to fund public education. I also wonder what good vouchers are if private schools are allowed to set admission standards. Our public schools are forced to accept any student under 16 years of age. Why place the school at another disadvantage?

QUOTE(winodj @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 12:46 PM) You know, in the right light :puke

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 12:08 PM) I don't believe that way. The fetus has the same rights, IMO, conceived in rape, incest, whatever. It certainly is a lot cleaner position logically and consistently. Not any murkiness, no wavering. And I respect that. I also think it is very easily justified. One problem the Pro-Choice has in this debate is the polar opposite of that position would be abortion, is OK whenever, for any reason. I don't believe many American's truly believe late term (3rd trimester) abortions are morally justified. So the pro-Choice group has to paint some moving line that no one can agree on.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 12:35 PM) Which should tell you something. Why didn't the ACLU sue to keep this stuff out of the classroom? Genesis (the Bible book, not the Phil Collins led band ) was "taught" in my son's Freshman Honors English Lit class. Interesting placement of creation. I do not think it was a coincidence that Genesis was selected. If these Muslim, or Islamic, or whatever customs are presented in a World History context, I do not see the issue. If this was a weekly, school scheduled, program, like a morning Christian prayer or grace before lunch, I will bet the ACLU would have been involved. One time vs. everyday I believe is one crossing point in this debate.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 12:01 PM) Want more? How are these the "state" establishing religion? There is a moving line in all this. What is an acceptable form of prayer in a school and what is not? If I pray by facing the nearest bronze object and humming and you hold hands and whisper, and he needs to go outside and face wherever, is the school obligated to accommodate each of us? Where should they draw the line? If we accept my Church as being "acceptable" and therefor allowing me my prayer tradition, and don't accept yours, who chooses? Should the schools decide on a case by case basis? Should we look at how many kids of that faith are in the school, and if it's only one or two, they are out of luck? Should the government choose and create a list of religions tat are acceptable and those prayer traditions are allowed and all others are not? It is far easier to reject all or accept all, than to pick and choose. I do not want my religion placed above anyone else's, nor do I want it placed beneath. I prefer equal footing for all and if that means rejecting all forms of prayer in schools, I will accept that.

QUOTE(ChiSoxyGirl @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 11:32 AM) Why, yes. I have seen every scene in this movie. And I love it.

QUOTE(winodj @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 11:48 AM) Except if you read the story, you'll find the ACLU was not at all involved in this case. So your point is what? My gut tells me if this was thePassion of Christ being portrayed, the ACLU would be more willing to get involved. I want an even playing field. I don't mind learning about other world views (religions) but treat mine equally with the rest.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 11:36 AM) I have no issues with abortion in cases of rape and incest ( a morning after pill can deal with that easily ) or in order to save the life of the mother. My issue is with people who use abortion as a last-ditch effort at contraception. That's wrong in my view. I think that is the view of most Americans, and I basically agree with that. The part that gets troubling is why does the fetus of a rape victim have less rights than the fetus of a lust victim? If we turn it to the mother's rights, then the last ditch contraception situation would then be ok, because it is for the mother.

QUOTE(mreye @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 10:59 AM) Or smoke? Or drink? The courts have already decided that smoking and drinking are ok :banghead illegal drugs are not. This is a tough ethics quagmire, that I cannot sort out. It is easier to take a black and white approach, and perhaps that is why we have so much division on abortion. Any sort of in-between approach seems hypocritical at some level.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 11:16 AM) If you want to hear a prominent black tell it like it is then listen to Bill Cosby. You're all familiar with his recent speeches, i'm sure, in which he encourages black people to stop blaming "whitey" for all their problems and get their own house in order. That's the message they need to be listening to rather than to blame their troubles on some fictitious racial conspirasy. One thought: Would any white person in America want to change places with a Hispanic, Black, Asian, or Middle Easterner? Who has the better career chances? Who can walk through a shopping mall without the clerks getting suspicious? Who can move through a scanner at the airport easier? Who can walk into a Lexus Dealer easier? Who can run for office easier? Who can drive down a street without causing attention? All in all, we are still a white dominated society. We have come a long ways, but to believe there isn't much more to go, is wrong. I don't believe in financial restitution for Civil War era crimes, or some of that b.s. I believe many of the approaches we are trying are wrong.

These policies never go from A--------> Z immediately. They went from A

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 10:49 AM) Some of those things I don't think the wrong answers even link to anything. How can those companies afford to give away all that free stuff? I keep clicking on your avatar hoping for some free stuff, but never anything

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Jan 13, 2005 -> 09:20 PM) There have been times when I found a great picture and thought to myself how great an avatar it would make. Every time, I realize I could never dump Alizee. Having one around is perfect, two is too many. Don't ever change. I think a height and width limit would be a great idea. I also think we need some sort of general agreement of what is and isn't allowed. Recognizing that many of our members are posting from work, or on a family computer, or in a public access point, makes me believe something around PG_13 would be best. I know they can be turned off, but wouldn't it be better if they could be left on without embarrassment?

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 09:28 AM) These things make me laugh I never guess right :banghead .

Why is it that when the bakery split English muffins (and what makes them English?) that one side is cut so thin it automatically burns in the toaster and the other side is too thick to fit in the toaster?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 07:10 AM) I'd be interested in more "reception quality" type of information. YAS, you are in Kentucky, it takes 3 or 4 years for the signal to reach back that far

I think it is in Maggs best interest to delay signing as long as possible to give the knee time to heal. I suspect we'll be reading small leaks about Maggs alowing teams to look over medical records, Maggs running for this team, whispers here and there until Late April or May. I just don't see him wanting to sign for a couple more months.

Just what we need, more members :rolly

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 09:10 AM) Lupica has a way of looking at things and getting right to crux of the matter. I've always respected that guy, even if I didn't always agree with him. Great writer. I love his work.

Link here

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 14, 2005 -> 07:01 AM) Today's column on the steroid thing. I heard a report last night that mentioned that most players, including entire teams, were pushing for full testing. I got to thinking about the White Sox, that no Sox players were suspected (Frank ) and that they may have acted with the support of the White Sox ownership who wanted to bust the guy across the city. :sosasucks

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jan 13, 2005 -> 09:43 PM) They need to change the law and make an example out of her. Either way she is going to rot in hell. One of the cornerstones of our justice system is we do not make laws retroactive. Interesting that you have to be a Doctor to kill a fetus. You have to go to medical school and take an oath to do no harm, then you can kill a fetus. If you are unskilled, it's a crime. I guess it's a crime to do it poorly and ineffectvly. If instead she decided to sky-dive, ride in the rodeo, etc. would that be a crime?