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Happy Birthday youngin'

Up to my ass in alligators. I'm leaving on Saturday for a week in the mountains and all the last minute details have me running all over the area. I've had a couple run ins with ncorgbl and really wish they hadn't killed the thread. Can someone PM or summarize who he really is?

You have no style

Are these personal visits or are you being recruited?

As long as he trades minor leaguers for major leaguers I don't think he can get fleeced. It seems the Marlins either finish last or win a WS. I'll trade a couple years of hell for WS bunting hanging from the Cell.

Exactly. The ability to close is what separates the good teams from the rest.

As I was trying to follow this, all I could think is we need to find this guy I remember from ESPN's boards. I think his screen name was ESPNJoe. He'd be a great match for Juggs. They could go on and on about some obscure theoretic concept.

A west Texas cowboy was herding his herd in a remote pasture when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced out of a dust cloud towards him. The driver, a young man in a Brioni suit, Gucci shoes, Ray Ban sunglasses and YSL tie, leans out the window and asks the cowboy, "If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, will you give me a calf?" The cowboy looks at the man, obviously a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, "Sure. Why not?" The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dell notebook computer, connects it to his AT&T cell phone, surfs to a NASA page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite navigation system to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo. The young man then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshop and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg, Germany. Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilot that the image has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses a MS-SQL database through an ODBC connected Excel spreadsheet with hundreds of complex formulas. He uploads all of this data via an email on his Blackberry and, after a few minutes, receives a response. Finally, he prints out a full-color, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJet printer and finally turns to the cowboy and says, "You have exactly 1586 cows and calves." "That's right. Well, I guess you can take one of my calves," says the cowboy. He watches the young man select one of the animals and looks on amused as the young man stuffs it into the trunk of his car. Then the cowboy says to the young man, "Hey, if I can tell you exactly what your business is, will you give me back my calf?" The young man thinks about it for a second and then says, "Okay, why not?" "You're a consultant." says the cowboy. "Wow! That's correct," says the yuppie, "but how did you guess that?" "No guessing required." answered the cowboy. "You showed up here even though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked; and you don't know anything about my business........Now give me back my dog."

Without knowing exactly what is on the downstairs computer, that sounds correct. Remember if you are going to share the printer on the downstairs 'puter it must be on.

But should everyone who he's ever known have their lives open books as well? This is an ex-wife and children who are being embarassed and potentially harmed. Is there a balance? They are hwe records also. What has she done to deserve this? She divorced him.

No we aren't making light of it or ignoring it, we had well over 50 posts crying about Mariotti's coverage. We're doing something.

I think the true test will be when he faces major league talent After this weekend, Yankee Stadium will seem like a quaint homey field.

Ok, everyone convinced me. There have been a ton of fights at Hawk games. A ton of fights at Bears games. Brewer games are crazy with fights. People get shot at Wrigley. College games are fight filled. The Cell is just like every where else and I'm an asshole for expecting Sox fans to be better. Personal safety and abusive language is not something that should keep families away. No problem. I just have to learn to be more tolerant.

Hell, I would have ran back and deleted

No, I figured as long as I was two or three ahead of you, I was fine

you asked, I assumed you couldn't find my post.

I do not see any value in arguing that another stadium has more problems. Would it help the Sox if more people attended games? Would more people attend games if fans were not getting their noses broke? If so called fans were not screaming profanities? You can argue all you want how other venues are just as dangerous, but the bottom line, people stay away from the Cell and attend games at Wrigley. Maybe characterizing Cub fans as yuppie drunks on cell phones actually helps their attendance. I'll even agree that Hawk games are now filled with fights. Maybe that is why the Hawks ranked 27 of 30 teams in attendance? Behind some big hockey markets like Phoenix and San Jose2003-2004 Attendance Numbers And the Bears were 24 out of 32.

for steff, I'll repost

I posted my solution and you said bull s*** and pointed out how violent sporting events are for the fans at other stadiums.

How will we know how Diaz will pitch against major league teams?

So just print on the tickets, attending sporting events may result in a broken nose, stiches, and your kids being exposed to X-rated language. It's your risk.

All during the 1988-1995 time frame. Bulls games, old stadium, second balcony, center court, last row. Easy to climb out under the railing, never had to worry about fans crossing in front. Never saw a fight. Hawks, mezzanine, blue line, player's bench side. Never saw a fight. Bears, always picked up tickets either through a broker so never in the same location. Saw a fight when a guy's girlfriend/wife was hit by an ice/snow ball during a Vikings game. Are you claiming then that families should just accept that violence will happen at sports events? Listening to f*** You and witnessing fights is all just fun at the ol' ball park? I'm not saying everything is safe and kid friendly, I just see it as a problem, you (JimH) do not seem to. I read and re-read your post and still do not see what your solution is besides saying hell, other stadiums are worse.

One thing that needs to happen is for Sox fans to not accept this behavior. If 20 people complained about the language instead of 1, things would have been different. I think we still have an image as the "Worlds Biggest Saloon". Our owner at the time even promoted it that way. That just takes time. Nothing we can really do about the next thing, but more season ticket holders would help. When I was attending Bulls and Hawks games, I had season tickets and of course got to know everyone around us. If a casual fan got out of line, there was a dozen or two to keep it in check. Good Sox fans cannot just stick their heads in the sand and pretend we're fine. I dislike reading negative stuff about the Sox as almost anyone, but when we load the damn gun and point it to our heads, why blame anyone in the media for pulling the trigger? When my kids were growing up, they didn't know the Sox played at night. I would only take them to day games. There is a huge difference in the fans between our day and night games. And finally. I had never seen a punch at a Bulls, Hawks, or Cubs game. Saw one at a Bears game in 1987. I have witnessed at least 20 shoving and punching fights at Cominsky.