Everything posted by Texsox
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Penn State horror story
QUOTE (Swingandalongonetoleft @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 05:59 PM) Interesting thought I just heard a caller on Boers and Bernstein suggest is that McQueary could have been a victim of Sandusky himself as a youth. I guess McQueary was a decent football player growing up, and he could have run into Sandusky at a camp, or at his game (like the guy who just de-committed did). I think that would at least explain why he went to his dad and Paterno instead of the police with what he saw happening, and also why he wasn't fired. It's far-fetched, but you would have thought the same about the rest of the story if you didn't already know it was true. Great, now the movement to paint the one eyewitness out as a victim as well?
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Penn State horror story
QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 01:41 PM) If the victim had been Paterno's grandson, and Paterno was told that Sandusky was caught "messing around" with him, however vague, how long would this conspiracy of silence and cover-ups have lasted? If the person that was an eye f***ing witness called police, or Paterno witnessed it first hand, how long would the silence have lasted? If anyone above Paterno had called the police . . . If Sandusky choked on his vomit after realizing what a sick bastard he is . . .
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The Republican Thread
QUOTE (Cknolls @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 06:20 PM) Gotta love the Unions: If you're a parent who accepts Medicaid payments from the State of Michigan to help support your mentally-disabled adult children, you qualify as a state employee for the purposes of the Service Employees International Union (SEIU). They can now claim and receive a portion of your Medicaid in the form of union dues. Robert and Patricia Haynes live in Michigan with their two adult children, who have cerebral palsy. The state government provides the family with insurance through Medicaid, but also treats them as caregivers. For the SEIU, this makes them public employees and thus members of the union, which receives $30 out of the family's monthly Medicaid subsidy. The Michigan Quality Community Care Council (MQC3) deducts union dues on behalf of SEIU. Michigan Department of Community Health Director Olga Dazzo explained the process in to her members of her staff. "MQC3 basically runs the program for SEIU and passes the union dues from the state to the union," she wrote in an email obtained by the Mackinac Center. Initiated in 2006 under then-Gov. Jennifer Granholm, D-Mich., the plan reportedly provides the SEIU with $6 million annually in union dues deducted from those Medicaid subsidies. “We're not even home health care workers. We're just parents taking care of our kids,” Robert Haynes, a retired Detroit police officer, told the Mackinac Center for Public Policy. “Our daughter is 34 and our son is 30. They have cerebral palsy. They are basically like 6-month-olds in adult bodies. They need to be fed and they wear diapers. We could sure use that $30 a month that's being sent to the union.” According to the Mackinac Center, the theoretical public employer for whom the Haynes' work is the Michigan Quality Community Care Council (MQC3), an entity within the DCH that continues to operate, even though the state legislature has defunded it. Even the MQC3 calls the families hiring in-home health care providers "employers of providers," but these health care providers are also treated as employers of MQC3 when it comes time each month to take dues out of their Medicaid payment and send it to the SEIU. Mr. and Mrs. Haynes, of course, are both the parents (the employer) and the health care providers for their children, but they still lose money to the SEIU every month, despite having no interest in joining the union. They have been arbitrarily classified as state employees so that the union can take money from them. Gov. Rick Snyder, R-Mich., already ended a similar scheme to provide unions with new "public employees" in the area of child care. His predecessor, Gov. Jennifer Granholm, D-Mich., had classified in-home daycare providers as public employees -- a designation that forced them to pay union dues but conferred no other benefits upon them. Snyder's director of the Department of Human Services ended that program. "[We] will stop all funding and, because these providers are not state employees, will also cease collecting union dues,” DHS director Maura Corrigan said at the time. Michigan's state House has already passed a bill to prevent this sort of rent-seeking by public-sector unions, but it has stalled in the state Senate. It sounded so simple in the beginning. Replace expensive home health workers with relatives at a much smaller salary.
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The Republican Thread
QUOTE (kapkomet @ Oct 25, 2011 -> 08:44 PM) Awww, how precious. So Barackus the Great gets to profit off of tax payer money on book royalties? What a f***tard. Total f***tard! The people responsible should be fired immediately.
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Catch All Anything Thread
Modern Warfare 3 has been released in Iraq and Afghanistan as "The Sims"
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All New Soccer Thread ~ All Levels ~ All Leagues
The point I made this morning when I was talking to my AD was by blaming every bad call on the referee, you shield the players from any responsibility. That leads to sloppy play. The sloppy play leads to more calls against you.
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Republican 2012 Nomination Thread
Well shucks, if y'all want some slickster politician who can smooth talk ya, well then Perry isn't for you. You know we already got that. I guess we can just keep that feller and his fancy words that speechwriters come up. But if you want a God honest man for president, one that will occasionally, like all of us, slip up, Perry is still your best option. You know, he kind of reminds me of Reagan . . .
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Penn State horror story
QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 02:21 PM) Just to drive this home tex, if one of your scout masters told you they saw a boy get raped, and you told your superiors, then continued to see that man around business as usual for years, and then a scandal hit showing that he was continuing to rape boys... people may ask that you no longer hold that duty. And in that scenario, you didn't get raped, you aren't going to jail, you just lost your job. Poor you. You are clearly the biggest victim here. Joe Paterno was the most powerful man in Happy Valley. Without a doubt. Within his football administration was a man serially raping young boys in large numbers, none yet completely known. At some point, he was told about this. No criminal charges were ever filed against this man. The public gets notified. He loses his job. The serial rapist being around is the problem here. All those that knew are tainted. You can't move on without removing that stain. Hopefully, those victims can. But no, I don't care that poor Joe Paterno has to retire comfortably in his old age. He is not the victim here. Good point. And just to drive this home, if you saw a boy get raped and you didn't call police, you just told someone else, then find out the man continued rape boys, will you say, hey I told "the most powerful man in Happy Valley", don't blame me? And Joe isn't the biggest victim, that is a disgusting statement to make and blatantly unfair to even insinuate that I would believe that. What I have said is Paterno is being portrayed as the second biggest villain here, the written wrath against Paterno exceeds that of Sandusky. I see Paterno's responsibility behind that of the GA, the AD, and the university president. Right next to the dad. As I read additional reports from prior to 2002, I am agreeing with his removal. But I really wish the wrath that is being placed on Paterno was instead placed on the eye f***ing witness who did not call police.
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Quietly so no one sees . . .
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 08:47 PM) Can't we agree that's what poor people are for? Depends, maybe to nations fighting a war.
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Republican 2012 Nomination Thread
QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 08:21 PM) haha, what a terrible prediction from texsox BTW, I think we can all agree that Perry needs a teleprompter, just like the savior Obama who doesn't speak without one.
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Republican 2012 Nomination Thread
QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 08:30 PM) hasn't Cain's main accuser been involved in like 20 lawsuits over the past 5 years? kind of weird don't you think? I thought there were several more.
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Quietly so no one sees . . .
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 11:56 AM) And that's the way it should be. But you can't really be saying that some do not deserve protecting?!
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Republican 2012 Nomination Thread
QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 03:56 PM) If someone was shouting "look! this woman accusing Cain of SH filed for bankruptcy in 1998....GOLD DIGGER!" then i'd agree with you. But as i've explained numerous times, look at the whole picture. IMO she's full of s*** and looking to cash in on the opportunity here. Are you also suggesting that Cain didn't do anything wrong?
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Republican 2012 Nomination Thread
QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 08:21 PM) haha, what a terrible prediction from texsox
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All New Soccer Thread ~ All Levels ~ All Leagues
So this morning grades came out and I lost seven players, including three starters. We were playing the first round of a tournament. It was the worst display of sportsmanship I have ever witnessed at a kid's game. The fans of the other team, parents and coaches, were yelling obscenities, accusing the ref of accepting a bribe, etc. Six of their kids received yellow cards and one red card for swearing at the ref or complaining about calls. Four of the parents were removed from the field. We were losing 0-1 with about six minutes to play. I look up from 3/4 of a field away my keeper was getting a yellow card. I ask why and learn he was sitting down. OK, I forgot to tell him about that one. My second and third string keepers were suspended for academics, so I had no one. I grabbed a kid thinking it's only for one play. As he comes to the sideline I hear him say loudly, what the f***?! Well, now he's going to be sitting longer. The ref comes over a minute or two later and reminds me that I can bring him back in. I explain he used foul language on the sideline and would not be returning. Thirty seconds later my striker is down in the box and we're getting a penalty kick. 1-1! The obscenities really begin to fly. When we go to penalty kicks I put my keeper back in the game. The other coach starts screaming that he had gotten a red card and can't be playing. The referee explains it was only a yellow card. The coach screams, no it wasn't or he would have been back in the game. I am about 10 yeards away and say, "I don't tolerate yellow cards from my players so I sat him for the rest of the game to teach him a lesson about sportsmanship" and walked back to my kids. The other parents started mocking me. We won the toss and elected to go first. 3-3 in the first set. Then we went to sudden death. We made the first one, they hit it right at my keeper. Victory. We lined up and waited, and waited, and watched them get on the bus. I spoke with the team about being winners 168 hours a week. Called the other team losers. And started planning for the game(s) Saturday.
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Penn State horror story
Just to be clear. If someone tells you they saw a crime, it becomes your responsibility to make certain it is investigated.
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Penn State horror story
QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 07:10 AM) I just heard news of the firing this morning. Without question, it absolutely had to be done. I'm doing face palms over some of the posts on here arguing the contrary. He was the head of the program under which this occurred, and in many ways, "the most powerful man on campus." Talk about a "lack of institutional control": When something this heinous happens, those at the top bear ultimate accountablity and must pay with their jobs. His contract was up anyway, and he "retired" just hours before. BFD. Sorry, devils advocates. In the real world, this was an absolute no-brainer. Wrong. In 2002 Sandusky was not employed by the University and it did not involve any current University students.
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Penn State horror story
QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 10, 2011 -> 03:00 AM) Am I the only one who thinks making Joe Paterno out to be a child molester is QUITE a reach? Also, am I the only non-PSU student that believes they should have just let Paterno finish out the season? I do as well. The GA didn't report a crime he was an eyewitness to. He was the #2 person at fault here, #1 being Sandusky. He told his dad, his dad didn't tell him to go to the police. That makes me wonder exactly how he was describing what he saw. Are we really to believe that the GA told his dad I saw this guy raping an 10 year old kid. If that is the case, that he absolutely believed he had witnessed the rape of a 10 year old child, he should be locked up for child endangerment. I pin the non reporting to police blame on the eyewitness. If he wasn't certain enough to report it to the police, I have a difficult time placing more blame on either his dad or Paterno.
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Republican 2012 Nomination Thread
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 09:06 PM) You stole that from a political cartoon. Rick Perry?
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Quietly so no one sees . . .
You have to hate how the world lets down the defenseless. The poor, the kids without someone to protect them.
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Jesse Ventura may run for President
QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 02:12 PM) lol, that's funny, I haven't seen a Pollo Loco but we have KFC and Church's Chicken. The first one I went to was in Reynosa, Tamaulipas. Charcoal grilled deboned half chickens with a fresh salsa bar. They open up along the border on both sides. Hmm, I may have to take a run this weekend.
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Republican 2012 Nomination Thread
QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 07:05 PM) There's a GOP debate on CNBC right now Paid for by the Re-elect Obama campaign
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Republican 2012 Nomination Thread
QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 07:05 PM) There's a GOP debate on CNBC right now Paid for by the Re-elect Obama campaign
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Penn State horror story
QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 04:08 PM) An 8 year old was raped in the shower. If that's not your first action, it's the action you ensure happens after you report. There's no if's about it. Paterno, and everyone else in that sick college town enabled it. Are we talking about the eye witness, his dad, or Paterno?
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Penn State horror story
QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 9, 2011 -> 03:59 PM) That's not really how our legal system works. He has to comply with any police investigations if he witnessed anything, or he could be charged with obstruction. But we don't go around arresting civilians for failing to report crimes. But we fire and destroy a career and reputation of anyone he might have told about it. God, we're screwed up in this country.