Texsox

QUOTE (knightni @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 11:39 AM) I only have 6 lists, guys. Please don't wait until the deadline until you send in your list! And I don't think I had more than 15 names.

I wonder what is said in board rooms by MLB owners about recruiting players in developing countries. Baseball is unique in that the college system isn't the only or main path to a 25 man roster spot.

Lucky me, I was a borrow when rates were high and a saver when rates are low.

Gee, you really are ambitious, the whole city? Both sides of the street?

Evenings are longer now that it's dark at 6:15

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 6, 2011 -> 12:19 PM) I saw a thread that was listed as started by "Southsider2k4" and thought "WTF"? I was waiting for someone to notice. I searched the site in case you had already posted the article and thought why not, I'll use the mother of all bumps. SS2k4 ~and~ it's not in the 'buster.

Can't really help anyone who doesn't want help

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Nov 6, 2011 -> 10:44 AM) The banks backed off on charging customers to use debit cards. Not all. I am actually more miffed at other fees my banked enacted. Plus I can move to USAA with more services at a better price.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Nov 6, 2011 -> 10:00 AM) And nobody is stopping ANY of you from inconveniencing your lives and going to the f***ing bank -- in person -- and making a cash withdraw so you can carry cash around WITHOUT having to use an ATM or Debit Card and having to pay the fees attached to them. You know, like people used to do before any of this newfangled convenience existed. There are plenty of banks and credit unions that allow you to cash checks/make a withdraw for FREE so long as you have an account with them. The only drawback is you HAVE TO GO THERE, during business hours, in order to do so. Cashless society my ass. It's cashless ONLY out of convenience. A convenience you want to use but by no means are you forced to use. What is so wrong with switching to a bank or credit union with no fees? Funny it was the same banks that promoted the hell out of using the cards.

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Nov 6, 2011 -> 09:05 AM) You think its a strawman that I look at OWS' issues with sexual assault, hypocrisy , violence, entitlement, greed, drug use, communism/socialism, anti-Americanism, anti-Semitism, ignorance and so forth and consider that to be baggage that absolutely ruins any positive influence and message they might have started with? I could provide multiple examples of each of these. It doesn't surprise me that you'd look fondly at a movement overrun with degenerates, but I'm not going to join you. You think its a strawman that I look at the military's issues with sexual assault, hypocrisy , violence, entitlement, greed, drug use, communism/socialism, anti-Americanism, anti-Semitism, ignorance and so forth and consider that to be baggage that absolutely ruins any positive influence and message they might have started with? I could provide multiple examples of each of these. It doesn't surprise me that you'd look fondly at a movement overrun with degenerates, but I'm not going to join you. Using a group that you are familiar with to make my point. Yes, I agree that a group's message becomes weakened when member(s) of the group act in these ways. Every group from fraternities to Churches have members who disgrace their ranks, I just do not think it is reasonable to reject the entire organization based on what some of their members may do. I differentiate that from groups who organize around an ideal or belief that is immoral, illegal, or unethical (NAMBLA, Nazis, etc). The Occupy movement didn't gain momentum around the belief that rape, stealing, violence, drug use, etc was good. This wasn't a Neonazi group suing to march in Skokie.

That would be a great way to run for President.

http://www.themonitor.com/news/minn-56353-...ura-moving.html Miffed by court ruling, Ventura weighs running for president or moving to Mexico

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 5, 2011 -> 10:02 PM) Tex, they can't hide behind their supposed lack of leadership. They have 'executive committees' and a power structure like the very corporations they despise, they just don't make it public and try to make a display of 'inclusion', while trying to silence dissention in the ranks. SOMEBODY is taking in the money and deciding what to do with it. People keep trying top smear the Tea Party for a few nuts, yet when a whole group goes rampaging thru a town, we just supposed to take is as an exception? Do what you want. Point to the wackos at Occupy protests and say that's the real movement and pick out the best tea party types and say that's the true tea party. That is really easy because it fits your political beliefs and view of the world. I try to apply the same to both. I ignore the ignorant and publicity seekers in both groups.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Nov 4, 2011 -> 07:19 AM) When in doubt, pick the tallest person available. I just may start there. I gave my team my goal keeper speech which goes something like this. When the other team scores, and they will, that means the ball passed by ten defenders ~and~ our keeper. If ten of you couldn't stop them, how is one person? So you turn around and apologize to the keeper for putting him in that position.

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Nov 5, 2011 -> 09:48 PM) I get what you're saying. Don't generalize. Don't assume they're all bad because I still don't know all of them. I get that point. That still doesn't mean I can't make a decent argument that this movement, whether it was rotten from the start or simply coopted by the worst of the worst, is bad for America. I don't think it's going to induce any positive change and it's only going to sour the current state of affairs. And at worst, it's going to get people killed. Think about it...would you tell me not to call the Nazi Party an evil organization just because Oskar Schindler was a member? You wouldn't make that argument. There can be bad movements that have a few, or even many, good people. It doesn't mean their ultimate effect isn't a destructive one. Agreed.

I am not defending the idiots, and there are many. But most are just there for the spectacle and like mentioned earlier are professional bums. But to dismiss the other half as also being idiots and rapists, and God knows what else is a gross over generalization. The past couple decades have shown corporate America at its worse. Starting with outsourcing even low paying jobs overseas, mismanaging their companies to the point where the American tax payers had to bail them out of destroy the economy, while giving their top executives salaries well beyond even an ace pitcher. The high unemployment rate is a huge stress. I know some very good people who were out of work for over two years. Some enjoyed the vacation at our expense, some were desperate for a job. Then companies admit to placing working applicants ahead of the out of work!? Yeah, I understand the frustration against corporations, especially in the financial services industry.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Nov 5, 2011 -> 09:13 PM) I doubt half the guys from my list make it. It's such a wide spectrum to choose from. I'm guessing only one or two of mine will make it, and they were ones I had near the bottom.

Who is in charge of any movement like this? Who is there to denounce them? OK, I denounce them! You denounced them, so I guess people are denouncing them. Where there are crowds, there are idiots. This movement in particular attracts some really idiots. And those are the ones making headlines because they are committing crimes. There are people cooping this for their own agendas. I can sit here and match you post for post where people in outstanding organizations do some pretty despicable things. That doesn't mean every soldier, cop, teacher, tea partier, etc are bad. There are many more Americans who agree with some of the protesters who can't be at the protests.

Hey Sparky, you shouldn't need to get that close

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Nov 5, 2011 -> 05:50 PM) These people are savages. If you're not already seeing that this is a movement of the most despicable scum, people who are violently intolerant, criminal and disruptive of the lives of normal Americans, then you're just delusional. Speaking of despicable scum, people who are violently intolerant, criminal and disruptive of the lives of normal Americans, we can add guys like the 5th Stryker Brigade of Fort Lewis, Washington, who are charged with the wanton murder of Afghan civilians in Kandahar last spring, or Army Lt. William Calley, or Capt. Daniel Nilsson, or Kevin Lee Flippin, or CMDR Jay Wyle, or . . . I'll point out that what all these people have in common is being at the fringes of the groups they are associated with, and rejected by good and just people everywhere. I would not paint the entire organizations with the same brush.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 5, 2011 -> 05:33 PM) Most of them are LaRouchies and they were all asked to LEAVE, not embraced by the rest. Where is the membership applications? Who decides who is, and who is not, part of these movements? Tea Party or Occupy?

QUOTE (God Loves The Infantry @ Nov 5, 2011 -> 05:50 PM) These people are savages. If you're not already seeing that this is a movement of the most despicable scum, people who are violently intolerant, criminal and disruptive of the lives of normal Americans, then you're just delusional. Taking a fringe idiots and convicting everyone seems a little extreme.

useless to ignore this thread. Of course it simultaneously defends and convicts me as a rotten thread starter.

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QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Nov 5, 2011 -> 01:52 PM) Tex, the two groups are NOT the same. Only if you group the crazies in one group and exclude them from the other.