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Let's do an experiment and see if it helps . . . Here lies the 2008 White Sox, they fought the good battle and gave all they had, but in the end, their injuries were just too great

2008 ~ These Guys Are Hurt!

Iowa

You write so much and I cannot respond to it all.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 10:34 AM) They made him an offer of 4/$48m (IIRC) post injury. Once he turned that down, they pulled it off of the table. After the lies started, they didn't really negotiate anymore. That was a pretty poor negotiation, at least what was reported.

QUOTE (knightni @ Sep 13, 2008 -> 12:57 AM) What year was it? I'm thinking around 1995.

Jordan

I never had a problem with this whole drafting by sperm and egg donors.

QUOTE (SoxFanForever @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 11:07 AM) So the passengers can't use their phones either? I think he's thinking more the driver.

And of course there is bias in the media. There are the biases from the person who is being reported on, the reporter, the editor, the page designer, and the reader. Of all those, the reader arguable has the greatest bias and no ethical considerations to remove it. Not to pick on by buddy Alpha but I will, we all know his pet peeve (bias) is the placement, or omission, of party affiliation. That will determine, in part, how he feels about the article's authenticity and accuracy. When all of the biases line up no bias is detected. That is why liberals see the conservative bias in the media and conservatives see the liberal bias. If you gather up the million of articles that will be written this year, you will find subtle and not so subtle bias for and against each party. It is impossible to write every article neutral. Edwards gets caught with a mistress and a baby, no way that can't be a negative article, and it would be terribly wrong to try and find a negative GOP article to provide "balance". It is what it is. No need to list every REP who fathered a baby out of wedlock and silly to find some historical article and measure the column inches. If readers are interested, report more, if they are not, report less. The danger as I see it is when we remove the watchdogs. Either by force or benign neglect. The public has been well served for over 200 years by our media.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 10:41 AM) Its just flawed logic. Are the bolded statements a product of them being in a fraternity or being young in college? Do you remember these statements more because it reaffirms your shallow generalizations of fraternity members as opposed to just a college kid saying it? My guess is probably. Because in the arguments that have happened in this board over this subject, you have had many fraternity members here talk about their community service and grades, so there is no way it would be a first. I'm in a fraternity and am young and in college. I put in many hours of community service that go far beyond any "required" hours we have, and many of my brothers are right there with me. I have great grades. I'm politically active. I'm active in the community. The community knows the potential the greek system has here and actively comes to us for help, which is then obliged by ours. But this doesn't mean I don't get to have the same social exploration of any other college student just because it would feed into your shallow stereotype. Both. But from what I've seen and heard, the fraternity system encourages and in some cases required "exploration" beyond responsible levels. Forced consumption of alcohol for example. I don't believe we need to examine news stories of hazing? That sort of ritualized behavior goes beyond what would occur for non Greek students. The excesses of the past, which has led to deaths and University policies and laws against these behaviors are in part because members did not acknowledge any problems in the 70s, and 80s. As the behaviors continued to escalate, Fraternities and to a lesser extend Sororities, were given a huge black eye. I have spent time on three University campuses with both large and small Greek Societies, and perhaps on your campus fraternity members brag about the people they helped, but I've heard a lot more party tales. No doubt there is a larger social value in Greek Society. Both inward and outward for the members. As I posted before, the pendulum is swinging, as witnessed by what you wrote, and that is a good sign for everyone.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 10:26 AM) The crazy thing is that the Sox offered him more guaranteed money. Wasn't the Sox offer before the injury? I thought the Sox position post injury and surgery was no examination, no offer. Which seemed prudent to me. Anyway, as it turned out, I'd rather have JD than Maggs. I am not delusional (on this lol), I know Maggs is the better player, but I think character counts and I'll take someone like Dye any day.

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QUOTE (DABearSoX @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 11:12 AM) I don't get it...was this engineer 18 or something...or these kids just really liked trains? I mean they text with the guy? That seemed a little strange.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 10:16 AM) ya know, i'd have to say we should wait and see. I mean, no doubt this guy shouldn't have been texting while on the job, but even the NSTB said not to rush and make wrong conclusions about the actual cause. Especially if they're just using the fact that someone recieved a text a minute before the crash. My texts, both recieved and sent, come and go at various times. It's not always instantaneous. Excellent point. But even if that was sent 10 minutes before, it would appear he was still texting while operating the train. Yikes. How many more are doing that?

It would mean he grabbed a page out of Reagan's playbook. Very sad indeed.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 08:59 AM) For the record, Rock isn't the only former fraternity member on the board. I know, but Rock and I have had a couple exchanges about this. And for the record, I am a fan of the system, I just am waiting for the pendulum to swing further towards the Mission statements as written, instead of the mission statement as interpreted by too many fraternity brothers. The next time I hear a Fraternity member brag about the community service they did, (instead of buying their way out with a donation) or how it helped with their grades, will be the first. The next time I hear about a great party, how they got totally wasted, or "did" some chick at a party, will be too many to count. And former member? Shame on you. Fraternities are forever

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 08:44 AM) I hate the deafening quiet of wakes. Around my family there is usually laughing and crying, and it is never quiet. THere are a lot of variations. My will calls for hiring a comedian for mine.

I believe the unstructured time of a wake is much different then the typical funeral. There is too little time to gather with friends and relations during the funeral. It is usually too scripted and too formula. There are many variations on a wake, but I eblieve they all have value in the grieving process.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 07:58 AM) Don't worry, the government will save you! Will this effect a large number of citizens? Either directly or indirectly?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 08:37 AM) Didn't you just post something about ignoring posters based on who they were and their political philosophies? I don't think so.

QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 15, 2008 -> 07:50 AM) Lil Romeo Forbert

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 04:47 PM) again, no one is 'hunting' for pro-Dem journalists to be banned. As far as I'm concerned they are COMPLETELY within their rights to do what they are doing. and we are COMPLETELY within our rights to critique. why are you trying to 'McCarthy' us out of our freedom of speech? why do you have this conservative witch hunt to silence our dissention? Not trying to get them banned, but when what they write is ignored because they dropped an R or had the D in paragraph 3 instead of 2, it's as good as banned. The end result of the GOP strategy is you will not believe anything in the media, only what the GOP or their surrogates tell you. Then functionally you have the old TASS system.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 08:41 PM) Slumpbuster My ex-wife

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Sep 14, 2008 -> 02:58 PM) Suck. hickies