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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 6, 2006 -> 12:33 AM) Yes you are correct with the 20/20, every player that I listed had multiple 20/20 or close (18/32) seasons and in the case of Crawford and Reyes they may not have reached that level yet but will very soon and should continue that for a good portion of their careers. But remember you have to choose one over the other, you can not be both a speed and power player. If you are a 5-tool player, you have no place on this White Sox team. Any dreams of the Sox acquiring Crawford just went out the window, because he would be dead in a week with Ozzie.

The only thing this team does is not f***ing score. Good thing we have the most dangerous offense in the league. JFC...

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:41 PM) Why would you want to hear Ozzie issue challenges to either for next year if it's most likely that neither will be on the team next year??? I dunno, to try and F***ING WIN THIS YEAR? Pretty much cut and dry to me. QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:54 PM) Tell me what do these players have in common? Bobby Abreu, Carlos Beltra, Vlad Guerrero, Alfonso Soriano, Barry Bonds, Steve Finley, Reggie Sanders, Sammy Sosa, Ray Lankford, Raul Mondesi, Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Craig Biggio, Johnny Damon, Mike Cameron, Magglio Ordonez, Ken Griffey Jr., Grady Sizemore, Carl Crawford, Jose Reyes, Shawn Green, Jose Canseco, Ricky Henderson, Bo Jackson, Craig Biggio, Jeff Bagwell, Ray Durham, Derek Lee, Brian Jordan, Eric Davis, Darryl Strawberry, Ron Gant, Devon White, Roberto Alomar, Andruw Jones, Darin Erstad, Torii Hunter, Larry Walker, Marquis Grissom, Al Martin, Ellis Burks, Dante Bichette, Carl Everett, Cliff Floyd, Chipper Jones, Derek Bell, Andre Dawson, Robin Yount, Joe Carter, Dave Parker, Howard Johnson, Ryne Sandberg, Andy Van Slyke. They were/are very productive players for winning teams. I would say 20-20 players too, but Crawford hasn't quite gotten there. So I'll say all were/are also .800/20 players are some point in their careers, perhaps better than that even.

QUOTE(Whitewashed in @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:08 PM) Yeah thats a good ERA in August, but how many quality starts did he have? How many times did he pitch 7 or more innings? He had 2 QS's in August and pitched 7 or more innings 2 times, one was a quality start. You know that an ERA doesn't tell everything. We have 3 really good bullpen guys. They can only pitch so much. There has not been a game in his last 7 starts the Sox could/should not have won. Instead, they have lost 5 in a row. It's 3 true quality starts, but he had 1 start with 5.2 IP, 2 ER, his start against the Yanks where he went 5 IP and gave up 2 ER while the umps where completely and thoroughly screwing him, one in which he went 5.1 giving up 3 ER, and one in Minnesota where he went 7 giving up 4 ER. Every one of those games was winnable. The last time Contreras truly had a start like that was August 11th. You tell me who you'd rather have, and who the mental midget is. (fwiw, Contreras also was labeled a mental midget and a no-brain, all-talent pitcher before he led the Sox to a World Series title...just sayin)

QUOTE(Whitewashed in @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 11:00 PM) Yeah, but there are reasons to why Garcia and Contreras aren't pitching like they have in the past. Garcia lost his FB and Contreras still seems hurt or at least not 100%. We all know what Freddy with his real FB can do and what a 100% Contreras can do. There is absolutely nothing wrong with Vazquez. He is a mental midget. Just because he strings a few good innings together isn't going to make me forget the fact that he can implode start after start. Lets see a few more quality starts from him, then i'll get off his back. I agree 100%, there is nothing wrong with Vazquez and his 3.43 ERA in August, his great start to September, and his 2.80 ERA in his last 45 innings. Absolutely nothing at all. Also, there are not reasons as to why Garcia and Contreras aren't pitching like they have in the past. There are excuses, and they are s***ty excuses that keep Brandon McCarthy or even Chuck f'in Haeger out of the rotation.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 10:14 PM) It's over 51,000. The only reason I'm still on is beacuse me and Wite are friends. yessssssssssssssssssssss except everytime i look, some chick is sticking her tongue out at me. WTF IS THE DEAL WITH THAT?

Makes me think... It is physically impossible for a human to count to 1 trillion. And if memory serves correctly, it would take 98 years to count to a billion without stopping.

QUOTE(Whitewashed in @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 10:13 PM) The best pitcher minus one inning left out that one inning tonight... if that makes sense. Nice to see him do good, but I would like him to do this more often. More realistically, eliminate that one bad inning. We will see, I'm sure as hell not going to praise him for one great outing. I'd like to see Contreras stop pitching like s***. Beggars can't be choosers. I'll take a bad inning from Vazquez every other start rather than a s***ty start from Garcia or Contreras every f***ing time out.

Ya I definately thought I was in the biggest group ever...and then I found a newsfeed protest group that has like 33,000. Hell it gained like 200 members in like 2 minutes, I was just like wtf

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 12:16 AM) Aw, wite, why exaggerate? You're the only Sox fan who lives in nowhere. Really, are there even 20 people in both of the Dakotas, combined? i hate you guys lmao

QUOTE(daa84 @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 04:55 PM) dustin hermanson, to this day, is the biggest unsung hero of the 2005 white sox....no he didnt do anything down the stretch and in the postseason, but people forget that this guy had 34 saves, and converted like 24 of his first 25...while shingo had 6....so dustin coulda ended up with 40 saves for us...not to mention not giving up a run in his first 24 innings or something....just saying as far as regular season heroes go from last year...dustins right up there What made him more awesome was that he understood his role once he got off the DL and Jenks was closing. A lot of pitchers would have been offended by it, but he just took it and did what he could for the team. Hermanson is pretty much awesome.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 04:04 PM) Of recent Sox players I would like to see as coaches, he and Sandy would top my list. And you know how this organization likes to bring players back to coach. I think pornstache would make an awesome coach, but then again, I think he'd make an awesome anything.

If his fastball looks anything like his sideburns, we'll be fine

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 02:25 PM) BMAC is better than Freddy and Javy. Putting him in the rotation would improve the team immensely. Agreed on Garcia. The Sox could throw Thornton out there and he'd fair better than Garcia, assuming he can locate one offspeed pitch well enough. I don't buy that he's better than Vazquez...Vazquez has turned a corner in the 2nd half. I think he'll be fine the rest of this year, and he'll win 15-18 games next. I also don't buy that'd he'd be worse than Contreras. Until Contreras goes on the DL and/or stops throwing from the side, he's a bad pitcher.

And it does Sweeney to start Just saying...

QUOTE(UC76 @ Sep 5, 2006 -> 01:16 PM) All I'm saying is that McCarthy has not pitched like a phenom. A 4.23 ERA with 6 losses is very mediocre. Yes, I realize he has had to adjust to the bullpen. And yes, Ozzie may not always use him as best he could. But I don't fully buy this argument. If you're a great pitcher, then you adjust. You move into whatever role you're needed in and you pitch your ass off. Can you pitch or can't you pitch? Well, if you can then go out there and dominate if that's what people say you can do. Come on now. Papelbon isn't a reliver. He was brought up as a starter and is expected to be a starter again. But in the meantime, he has pitched lights out. Dominant. That's what phenoms do. Look, for just a second toss aside the role McCarthy has been in and look solely at what he has done WHEN HE HAS BEEN ON THE MOUND. 4.23 ERA and 6 losses. I'm not saying he isn't good. I'm just saying that, at this point in time, I'm a little disappointed in what we have received from the guy who is supposed to be the Chosen One. I was expecting more from a guy who we were told was the Second Coming. If we weren't spoon fed how great he was then I could just chalk it up to him being a young guy. But he's talked about like one of the best young arms in baseball...but there are young guys out there being dominant and McCarthy has been average at best. Maybe when he's a starter again we will see all the greatness we were promised. I hope so. And yes, I'm still pissed off about last night, which is influencing me. Papelbon has overpowering stuff. McCarthy has NEVER had overpowering stuff. So the guy isn't a phenom. That sure as hell isn't gonna stop him from being a damn good starter for the next 10 years. Only he's gonna stop that. Give him a year...hell, give a ton of a guys a year. People talk about trading Vazquez, trading Garland, trading Anderson, trading Garcia, not picking up Buehrle's option...give them some friggin time before we jump to conclusions. Vazquez has been our 2nd best starter in the second half, Garland's been friggin money since his horrendous start, Anderson's been one of the more productive bats in the 2nd half, and while I do agree that Garcia needs to be traded, I've made that judgement based on what I have seen from Garcia all year. People were also talking about not picking up Buehrle's option, but while he never had a month where his ERA was over 11, he's ALWAYS had atleast 1 horrible month every year of his career. That wasn't necessarily directed at you, but the board in general. I'm just completely sick and tired and fed up with people jumping to conclusions because a player has 1 bad game, 1 bad week, 1 bad month, 1 bad half...you need these guys down the stretch, and if you were to constantly change the roster, the team would never gel. Atleast right now, they have the, ehhh, potential(I guess...?) to gel and perhaps make a run. I don't think it's going to happen, but you never know. Come the offseason you can worry about it. (Garcia should have been traded at the deadline. It seemed pretty clear to me and the rest of the board that he had just lost it, but I'm sure KW was fielding offers for him and just didn't get the right one. Atleast with Freddy you know you are going to get consistency, even if it is consistently mediocre)

LOL. There was talk before the season about how McCarthy may struggle while in the bullpen due to him just not having good bullpen stuff, along with his preparation routine as a starter. You look at most relievers and see guys who rely on very good stuff and due to their very good stuff, have good command. McCarthy has good stuff, but it is not otherworldly, and as a starter, he relied heavily upon his command and his ability to control the strikezone and keep hitters off-balance. As a reliever, he never has the opportunity to establish his command, and he is usually thrust into 1-2 inning outings where he is put into situations where he is likely to fail. He cruised through the minors, came up last year in August and September, and shutdown the Rangers and Red Sox lineups when they were at full-strength. He may not look like Santana, Liriano, Verlander, or Bonderman, but he's pretty goddamn good...just not as a reliever.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 04:03 PM) I really just don't understand it. Every other day there is a new thead poking fun at how much "kool-aid" people are drinking. It's a joke. Why do you people give a s***? YOU PEOPLE? WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN? (20 Sox fans appear out of nowhere)

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 11:30 PM) And last year I felt he was a piss poor manager as well. The man has some serious flaws when it comes to his managerial techniques but the worst part is he's far too stubborn to ever learn from his mistakes. The point of history is to learn from our mistakes, not to take nothing away from them and be doomed to repeat them. Ozzie didn't listen in history class.

that was definately a hell of a game. Atleast Miami lost. There is something about Miami that I just can't stand.

HEY DID ANYONE SEE AJ STIFF THE SAW SAWX FANS, THAT WAS HILAR HILARIOUS

To bring it back to music, all of the current members of Pearl Jam were also in the Temple of the Dog project.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Aug 31, 2006 -> 07:41 PM) It all depends on September. Dye keeps up this pace for another month, I'll lay you very solid odds he'll win. Vlad the Impaler won in 04 with a dominant September that propelled his team to a division title, despite the fact that others had more home runs or higher averages than he did. If JD puts up September Numbers similar to his August numbers, and this team makes the playoffs or even better wins the division, I think he'll have a real, real good shot. If this team wins the division, not only will I seriously do snow angels naked, but Jermaine Dye will win the MVP.

QUOTE(CanOfCorn @ Sep 4, 2006 -> 05:05 PM) I'm sorry, is this the same Ozzie Guillen that won the World Series with this Sox team last year? The same one that starts Rob Mackowiak in CF, yep, that same one.