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QUOTE(Kogs35 @ May 9, 2005 -> 02:25 PM) what artical? he had to clears waivers in march to return to charlotte They designated him for assignment in order to remove him from the 40-man, thus having to clear waivers.

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ May 8, 2005 -> 09:02 PM) Uribe makes the plays he should make and Mark's outing today looks alot better. He's still not pitching as well as Jon or Freddy right now. Jon was not Jon last time out either. I think you are starting to see the pitching come down to earth a little. What is nice about that is that the offense is starting to heat up at the right time.

If you have the stuff Wells does, you either have to have some Crisco or Vagisil hidden well on you, or you have to know a hell of a lot about pitching. He is the walking, talking definition of the crafty lefty.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ May 8, 2005 -> 09:03 PM) If we get to the ALCS, I hope the Twins aren't there. Could be worse. We could actually face a team with a legit 1-2-3 combo, instead of just a 1-2 punch, with the 2 tending to be pretty inconsistent.

QUOTE(Soxfest @ May 8, 2005 -> 07:46 PM) You are correct my bad actually prior to 2004 last 2 times Red Sox won series, White Sox made the WS next year, winning in 1917 and losing in 1919 still great karma to get to WS. I still think the better karma is that of the top 5 teams on the list with leads in games, yada yada yada, that have actually finished the season, no team has won fewer than 92 games of that group. The team who did have the most, the 55 Dodgers, won the Series. So ya, go Sox.

News is unbelievably good That situation looked scary as hell.

Hawk has lots of Man-love for Man Soo

I do not like this move, at all. He gets like $1 mill guaranteed now, compared to the very little he was going to get otherwise. Why make the move? I am trying to figure this out.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ May 8, 2005 -> 01:24 PM) It's kinda like the Ivan stories. Two words Crotch guard

I am gonna pin this just cuz it would be nice to have it pinned Please do post updates...one can only hope and pray that he is alright

Tommy likey. Hopefully Zaun is not hurt nearly as badly as it looked.

QUOTE(Yoda @ May 8, 2005 -> 12:02 PM) I want Hawk back. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Pall and DJ are boring

QUOTE(TheBlackSox8 @ May 8, 2005 -> 10:32 AM) Yeah...very overrated. scroll to bottom for pitching stats. I think they have an adequate Rotation, and Bullpen. They have three real good starters right now, and two mediocre. The Bullpen is helping them a lot, as is ours. If they are overrated in their rotation, what are the Sox's rotation? Colon's numbers surprise me a little, but he has been very solid thus far. I don't expect him to continue at the sub-3.00 ERA, but he could float around the 3.00's all year and it wouldn't surprise me at all. Probably their best starter. Washburn is pitching over his head, very much the same as Duque is. His WHIP of 1.41 is higher than than his WHIP of the past 3 years(1.17 in 02, his best year, and than 1.25 in 03, a year his ERA was in the 4.60 range, and 1.33 last year, when his ERA was in the 4.40 range). His ERA is very misleading thus far. I am saying right now that if he keeps on giving up that many baserunners that his ERA will rise, much the same as Duque's will too. Byrd and Lackey are about where I figured they'd be. Escobar has made 1 start thus far, and is probably a 12-15 win, 3.50-4.00 ERA, 1.10-1.20 WHIP guy...very underrated overall. I see 2 good starters and 3 mediocre starters...and while having 5 good starters is a very nice thing to have in getting to the playoffs, it has been proven that you tend to not win in the playoffs when that happens.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ May 8, 2005 -> 07:53 AM) Well I disagree... He didn't trust Pods enough to play CF when Mr No Range was there friday and he was still sitting in LF. Oz also likes to guys get in comfort zones...hence the reason his lineup is generally filled out by position and not by who is hitting there. He does not want to even try to f*** with Pods and put him in CF for one game, and while you would figure one game would not mess with him that much, Ozzie may feel differently.

How about just 'spend a day with Ozzie' ? I'm sure you could hit the bars later on if you wanted to.

QUOTE(Winnin Ugly @ May 8, 2005 -> 09:24 AM) Starting May 12th the Sox will play Balt(4games),Texas(6),Cubs(3),Angels(7), this will be a tough month.. If we can win about 13 games we will have a solid year.... How many games do you think the Sox will win If we win 13 games over this stretch, we'll have a solid year???????? For starters, Texas has very little to no pitching, the Cubs entire team is in shambles, and the Angels, I feel, are rather overrated, especially in the rotation. Baltimore looks really solid thus far though, and that is the only series that scares the s*** out of me. This stretch, compared to like all of August, is nothing.

QUOTE(TLAK @ May 8, 2005 -> 09:15 AM) Dar-tanyon Sturtze Name the last White Sox MVP prior to Frank Thomas. I looked it up and cheated, so I will not say the answer. I will say that my initial guess of Nellie Fox in 59 was wrong...if I am allowed to give a hint that is.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 7, 2005 -> 02:44 AM) Yeah, because we all know that Hendry and the Cubs always make the right decisions. :headshake Lets see... 1.) Hendry gave Maddux a ridiculous contract. If he pitches 400+ innings this season, he will earn $9 million to put up #5 pitcher numbers next season. 2.) Hendry PAID to get rid of Sosa. 3.) Hendry traded one of the Flubs best relievers (Farnsworth) for minor league scrubs. Keep in mind that one of the minor leaguers (Novoa) just blew a game for them. 4.) Hendry failed to sign a closer meaning he let the team go into the season with LaChoke Hawkins in the role again after he failed miserably for them last season. 5.) Hendry re-signed Todd Hollandsworth and Jose Macias, two of Busty Baker's favorites. Because of his Busty's veteran fetish, he starts a career bench outfielder in Hollandsworth over a young player with a ton of power and a lot of upside in Jason Dubois. Busty also loves to use Macias, who is horrible mind you, as his first pinch hitter off the bench when Dubois and Ben Grieve are available. Hendry should have known better than to sign these two scrubs, knowing full well that Busty would give them a tot of playing time. 6.) Hendry enters the season with many injury-prone players -- Nomar, Kerry Wood, Joe Borowski, Chad Fox, Scott Williamson. The injuries aren't his fault but it's just asking for trouble. 1) Agree that it was a bad contract, but you do know what you are going to get out of him. Also consider who the agent is - Boras essentially guaranteed Maggs, whose career could very well be over, $75 mill. Maggs could not have an entire at-bat the entire season right now, and he would make $75 mill, due to him being out with a hernia injury. Having Maddux is not a bad thing by any stretch of the imagination though. 2) Sosa was a cancer in the clubhouse and was well overdue to be shipped out. And he was going to get practically nothing for him, especially considering he is off the roids, was coming off one of the worst years of his recent career, and was going to make $17 mill. The fact that he got Hairston and decent prospects for him is fairly solid in itself. 3) It was not like they were giving up a god among gods. Farnsworth put up a 4.72 ERA, a 1.50 WHIP, and allowed a .260 BAA last year. He is not as good as you are making him out to be. 4) There were not a ton of closers available. Going into this year, 3 teams had newly acquired closers - San Francisco, Detroit, and Atlanta. That being said, he could have addressed it better. Trading for Urbina or Dotel were and quite frankly still are possible, but that is all up to Hendry to do. They must feel pretty strongly that LaTroy can pull a Joe Nathan and go from headcase choker to stud, but I don't buy it. They could definately use a closer to move LaTroy back to setup, but it remains to be seen if they will do that. 5) Are you questioning him for listening to what his manager feels is best for the team? Because if you are, you must also question like every move the White Sox made. Pods was brought in because of Oz, Goochi was brought in because of Oz, Lee was dealt because of Oz, AJP was brought in because of Oz, Duque was brought in because of Oz. 6) When healthy, Nomar Garciaparra is one of the best SS's in the game. You can't question the Cubs for having him, especially considering what they gave up to get him...I believe Alex Gonzalez and Justin Jones, IIRC. Wood has proven in the past that he can be a very, very good pitcher, and they gave him that contract after his 2003 season, when he was outstanding. As of right now, he is hurt, and I figure it needs some surgery to fix it. It is a questionable move right now, but if he ever listened to Steve Stone and fixed his mechanics so they are not as bad, he could be a very solid pitcher. Borowski was perfectly healthy going into this season, but is rehabbing now from I believe a broken forearm that occurred during ST after being hit in the arm with a linedrive. There's absolutely nothing you can do about something like that. He also brought Williamson and Fox in for relatively cheap, and when they are healthy, they are nasty as hell. You can't criticize him for making low-risk, high-reward signings, else you are going to have to criticize every GM in the majors. And finally, not resigning Clement to a 3-year, $2(1/4/7...can't remember which it is) mill deal after having seen what has happened to Wood(thank you for making that point for me, I had not thought of that), and having seen what he did in the second half last year makes it even easier to see why Hendry and the Cubs would not resign him. I was personally very relieved to have seen that the Sox had underbid the Sawks.

QUOTE(knightni @ May 7, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) There were holes in the 93,94,00 teams. The 05 team has its problems as well. the 83 team won 99 games and was solid all around. The 05 team has problems right now, but they are solid up and down. I believe I can say right now that they have no holes at all from top to bottom. There are potential upgrades, but there are 6 atleast-serviceable guys in the pen, and there are like 2-4 good pitchers in there, whether or not you are counting Politte's hot start, or if you are also counting Shingo's slow start into that. It can still be upgraded though, because while someone mentioned that Billy Wagner would look good....you know what, people know I like him and want him in the pen, so I'm just not even gonna continue on with that thought. Also, as about a bajillion people pointed out, it is May. This is probably the best Sox team ever after 30 games though, so atleast we have that going for us.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ May 7, 2005 -> 08:45 PM) Question: What SoxTalk posters grandma dated Gary Peters? Whoever it is has a helluva claim to fame. Yours? I need a yes/no answer before I can move on, so EDIT: f*** it, I'll throw one out anyways What year was the only year the Sox won in the triple digits, how many wins was it, and who was the manager?

Just to add to what Critic said... The Sox biggest margin of loss was 6 runs, that to Cleveland in the 3rd game of the season, and that was just cuz Vizcaino sucked ass that day. The second biggest margin of loss was 3 runs to Minnesota in the Johan game. The other 5 have been by 1 or 2 runs. That is pretty incredible.

One time, there was a fire in my town, and Man Soo came and rescued everyone(and of course someone is going to take a shot at NoDak here for sure) is in the building. He then got a cat that was stuck in a tree out of the tree Sorry, couldn't resist Man Soo is the s*** anyways though. I am enjoying all these real stories.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 7, 2005 -> 01:54 AM) So there's a difference between Maddux being crappy to start the season while Clement was lights out and Maddux being better in the second half while Clement struggled? Clement ends up with a 3.68 ERA on the season while Maddux ends up with a 4.02 ERA but Maddux was hands down better than Clement? I don't get it. When did I say Maddux was hands down better than Clement? I don't recall that, personally. It may have come off that I thought Maddux had a better season than Clement last year, but in all reality, I do tend to think that. I'd rather have a guy that pitches well for me over a period of time when I absolutely need him to than a guy that will pitch well when the wins are nice and all, but they are not nearly as important(and I have never been a fan of the thought process that wins in April are just as important as those in September...if you are in contention, or are leading a division of some type and the race is close, wins in September are more important than wins in April) I do recall saying that you should not resign a guy that choked for you down the stretch. If Jon Garland put up a 5.50 ERA in the second half of this year, would you still want to give him a 3 to 4 year extension on his contract, especially if him pitching poorly was a reason we did not make the playoffs? It is very, very, very easy to see why the Cubs did not resign Clement.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ May 7, 2005 -> 01:50 AM) So you are basically saying that Maddux struggled in the first half of the season while Clement struggled in the second half of the season. What's the difference? All the games count so a win in the first half counts as much as a win in the second half. By the way, Clement still ended up with a lower ERA than Maddux last season. It's not Clement's fault that the Flubs' offense never scored any runs for him. Maddux struggled to the tune of mediocrity. Clement struggled to the tune of being bad, as in worse than average.

QUOTE(qwerty @ May 7, 2005 -> 01:47 AM) Clement would have had another surgery if he resigned with the cubs within a year. Isn't that obvious? Actually, knowing the Cubs, it would be like elbow soreness, pulled muscle in the forearm, strained muscle in the forearm, and then a minor surgery called Tommy John that they have to perform that takes a small amount of time of a year and a half to recover from.