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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 10, 2013 -> 05:41 PM) Wanna hit clean up? I was thinking about it. Do you think they'd let me?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 10, 2013 -> 05:06 PM) One thing I read was he was going to have to move to a corner if he could come back. I don't know if is based on facts or speculation. Surgeries on both knees and a back problem would seem to slow him down a bit. There just is nothing really out there about him other than Rosenthal saying he planned to play next season a couple of months ago. I plan on playing next year too

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Oct 10, 2013 -> 04:04 PM) I completely disagree. It DOES affect you when you are having to play this now super team, or this super team is in your division and it's a reason you get booted out of the playoffs. It's not fair to have 2 teams working together with twice the amount of draft picks and players available. Yeah, he clearly says "if you can prove collusion" (or how I read it, if it's clearly collusion), he has no problem vetoing. If it's obviously a bad team giving all his good players to a really good team, then yeah, veto the deal. Don't veto a deal just because it makes a good team better.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 10, 2013 -> 01:25 PM) The foundation is already getting some cracks on the northside. This years attendance was as low as it has been since the 90's. If the rebuild staggers, they could see some real changes up there. The thing that I don't think a lot of people understand is that the Cubs could conceivably be REALLY good for 5-7 years and not even make it to the World Series. Pat Gillick was the GM for 4 incredibly good teams and only 2 of those teams won World Series, getting 3 titles in all. Now, I think that will do a lot to get their popularity back to where it was, but the opportunity to "take back" Chicago is not out of the realm of possibility, especially if so much is tied to the Cubs winning the World Series.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Oct 8, 2013 -> 06:05 PM) I've heard both arguments. The Sox would be crazy to pay for a prospect and the Dodgers (or Pirates) aren't going to give prospects up for money. What IS crazy is paying a 4th OF'er like Ethier $72M. Thing is, they are just paying 4 outfielders X amount of dollars. With the Dodgers health concerns and the general lack of care they've shown for adding payroll, I doubt they mind paying 4 outfielders $500 million

Yeah, Josh Hamilton was 26 when he came back. Sizemore turns 32 next year and hasn't played since 2011. Regarding the risk, there'd be no risk bringing Frank Thomas into camp either, but that doesn't make it smart. I mean, maybe he Lew Fords it and makes his way back, but I strongly doubt that will be the case

QUOTE (Lillian @ Oct 10, 2013 -> 09:55 AM) You are "absolutely" right. I'll rephrase it; the Sox are unlikely to contend in 2014. Like I said, I do agree because I think they're too far away, but it's not out of the realm of possibility. I just get tired (not specifically of yours, yours just so happened to set it off) of people saying they will not contend.

Teams used to hold off celebrating until winning the LCS and World Series. Those you've actually won something. Frankly, if you win the LDS or the play in game, go out and get drunk with your teammates or something. The champagne celebration is too much for those.

I hate when people talk in absolutes. The Sox PROBABLY won't contend next year. Can we seriously qualify these statements? With what the Red Sox and Indians did this year, and the Tigers, Rays, Orioles, Pirates, DBacks, Padres, Giants, A's, and WHITE SOX have done in recent years (just to name a few), it's completely stupid to say "they will not compete." That's total BS.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 10, 2013 -> 08:57 AM) Guys play hurt all the time. He did sit out several games. It was no secret. They mentioned it several times. He was obviously limping along a lot. Professionals play, and don't worry about what it will look like on baseballreference.com. The team didn't have better options.I don't know why that is some managerial accountability problem. Marcus Semien was hitting the f***ing piss out of the ball in AAA. You're going to tell me they didn't have better options?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 10, 2013 -> 08:45 AM) I know you really have a thing for Grady Sizemore, and at one time he was a great player, but it would be a Festivus miracle if he is ever good enough to bat clean up in a line up anymore. He has missed 2 seasons and its been 4 years since he has hit .230 or had an OBP of .300. I don't want to say players are or are not doing anything, but Sizemore's career reflects the stereotypical PED user's career.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 10, 2013 -> 08:41 AM) Beckham was hurt the last 2 months. He was playing with a bad quad. Then he should not have been playing. If it's so bad that it drops his average 80 points, he's too hurt to play. I apologize, I'd lost quite a bit of interest towards the end for obvious reasons. However, hearing the sheer number of players that were playing hurt really does make me question Ventura's accountability and ability to make a stand and say "You can't play." I understand that guys don't want to sit, but you are hurting the team playing hurt whether in contention or not.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Oct 9, 2013 -> 11:49 PM) Tank and Beckham will both have breakout years in 2014. Book it. With Dayan, this was just his second season. We saw a sophomore slump mixed with injuries and exploited weaknesses. He did start making adjustments near the end of play as his health returned. Beckham was looking like an entirely different player until injuries also derailed him. This organization will not give up on these two this year. They're both going no where in 2014. Look for them to break loose. Beckham wasn't hurt towards the end of the year, and in August and September he hit .227/.304/.335/.639. With Semien knocking on the door and guys like Carlos Sanchez, Leury Garcia, and Micah Johnson closing in, you have to ask whether or not it's worth it to spend $5+ million on Beckham next year.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 10, 2013 -> 05:37 AM) His comments are 100% correct despite what some Sox fans tend to think. Yeah, I agree. I think if they went on an extended period - 10 years or so - of sustained success in the form of a couple World Series and 6-8 postseason births, you'd see a shift, but people want to watch and see the Cubs. It's similar to the Yankees and Mets in New York - no matter what the Mets do, it's always going to be a Yankees town. That's a little different thanks to the overwhelming success of the Yankees franchise compared to the historic and well-documented failures of the Cubs organization, but it's a valid comparison.

Over Loney's last 3,596 plate appearances, which includes this past season, he's put up splits of .280/.336/.404/.740. Over his last 4 full years in LA - excluding the previous 2 seasons - he's put up splits of .281/.341/.411/.752. There's not a lot that inspires confidence in these numbers whatsoever. Loney is a guy I want the Sox to avoid. Maybe he did figure something out with his swing, but I think the Sox need to let someone else deal with that. He's not going to make much of a difference in the Sox fortunes. Frankly, I'd rather see them let Wilkins start as opposed to bringing in Loney.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Oct 9, 2013 -> 04:36 PM) It might be less then you want but offense is down 15% in baseball, the main culprits by position are 1st base, 3rd base and SS. Everyone there (1st)is old or injured . Funny how when runs were down and everyone was hitting worse Loney got better.Is the pitching in the Central so much better than the East ? There's a lot of RH pitchers in our divsion and Loney is capabe of being a .300 hitter full time. Yes, we need more bats around him to make him more productive and I'm hoping that happens too. I really can't see him being a goat if he hits near .300 hits 15 HR's and drives in 80 and shows a lot more range in the field than Dunn and Konerko. He wouldn't be a goat if he did that. The problem is that the odds of him doing that are incredibly small. On top of that, the track record of Rays players leaving the team and underperforming or flat out sucking is extensive. Keppinger, Upton, Kotchman, hell, even Crawford have all been poor after leaving. I'm probably forgetting a few too. I don't know what it is they put in the water, but guys go crazy down there and then bomb elsewhere. That alone is more than reason enough for me to not want any of their fluky, 1 year wonder players.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Oct 9, 2013 -> 04:06 PM) So you expect his avg, obp ,and slg. to drop below his career average in the Cell ? I expect at least a 285.avg 340obp. and .420 slg. if not higher. In today's hitting environment, I absolutely do. Even if he put up .285/.340/.420, that is still less than what you want from your 1B, especially on a team as devoid of talent as the Sox are offensively.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 9, 2013 -> 03:35 PM) I was surprised to see Bernie Pleskoff saying good things about Micah's D from yesterday. Said to be smooth on the double play too. That'd be good. I still want to see him continuing to hit, but he sounds like a nice prospect. I'd love to see Semien stick at 3B, but really, if he can play 2B and Johnson can be a super sub kind of player, it would not be a bad thing whatsoever.

QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Oct 9, 2013 -> 03:01 PM) Ah, I was under the impression they already was and that they were waiting to announce it. I don't think so. I think they wanted teams to submit silent bids so they could get a gauge interest in him and get some idea of what they should ask. They also want to know which teams will actually seriously be involved with him. If they just accepted the silent bid, there'd be nothing stopping teams from colluding at that point and saying "We'll give $1 mill per year for 20 years" or whatever. In fact, I'm not sure he's even a citizen or if he has his work visa yet, either of which are required to sign him.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Oct 9, 2013 -> 01:02 PM) I haven't spoken to them ... too soon are the only words I can think up as to why ... but there is little doubt in my mind that the people I once knew are gone forever. I cannot even fathom what would happen if this was me, it would rob me of my will to live, or care about anything ever again. It's a total mindf***. You not only lose the child you've thus far put 15 months into raising, but you leave it with a person you believe you could trust the most and find out how sick and twisted they are and how could you ever trust anybody with your child again? This is about the worst thing that could ever happen to a person. My sincerest sympathies.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Oct 9, 2013 -> 02:33 PM) An extra O on a post is no big deal. if that was printed on many shirts that would be hilarious. And deadspin has put a lot of those types of shirts up, so it wouldnt surprise me if it happened

QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Oct 9, 2013 -> 02:57 PM) When are they going to announce whom he signed with? When he signs with someone

The SSS article is pretty awesome too

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Oct 9, 2013 -> 02:12 PM) Girardi signs a 4 year deal with the Yankees. Nailed it

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Oct 9, 2013 -> 02:07 PM) If Semein could stay at third this would be perfect for the Sox. Eventually get Micah at second and trade Beckham a year or two from now. With Leury and Avi. Thi team will have major speed in 2 years. I also really think that Thompson make an impact in a couple years. There are people who don't believe Johnson will stay at 2B and that his hands are a little rocky. The comparison I came up with was Emilio Bonafacio. Regarding Thompson, if he can become a 4th outfielder, Drew Stubbs type of player, it'd be a success.