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QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 23, 2013 -> 12:57 PM) The depth and breadth of the rights and freedoms we enjoy is scary when people like this push them in ways only a small percentage of the people agree with. And that's what scares people the most - to this point, he has done nothing that's illegal. Like I said, they do want to evict him and condemn his house due to a lack of running water, but with the backing of the National Socialist Movement, he'll have the funds and support to get that installed if necessary. The scary/ironic part of this is that African Americans make up only 1.2% of the population and, other than Native Americans, it's the "whitest" state in the union, yet 1 of the 12 residents of Leith is black. What are the odds of that?

Relevant http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/the-quality...-cy-young-race/ The more I think about it, the more I really think Sale deserves to win the Cy Young this year.

http://bismarcktribune.com/news/state-and-...1a4bcf887a.html This has been going for a little while, but reached it's point of highest tension this weekend when Jeff Schoep, head of the National Socialist Movement - pretty much the Nazi party - decided to pay a visit and back Cobb's plan. Leith itself has talked about trying to get Cobb evicted from his premise (as he has no electricity nor running water in his home) and they've also talked about removing their local government and becoming a part of the local municipality of Carson, ND, with its massive population of 250 or so. I really don't think there are many people from ND who are happy about Cobb being here, and he's actually a wanted criminal in Canada. This is only about 2 hours from me and I too feel that he can GTFO. He said "I think there are more racist people in North Dakota than you would believe (sic)," which is so obviously true given the support he received.

I even f*** this up I suck at life right now guys

I can't do anything right this year. Boldin sat on my bench week 1. Started S. Jackson, Wilson, Nelson, Garcon, and Lacy. Vick and Garcon sat last week. Started Cam, S. Jackson, Wilson, Boldin, Nelson, and Lacy. Gordon and Cam sat this week. Started Vick, Wilson, McGahee, Nelson, Garcon, and Boldin. I mean what the f***

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 23, 2013 -> 08:51 AM) I know he's on a winning team but that's going to be a tough deal to get done. Basically a DH, .785 OPS on the season, owed $13 million next year. Effectively that's a tiny, tiny step up from trying to trade Adam Dunn. They can sell the idea that he can still play a bit of catcher though.

QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Sep 21, 2013 -> 12:39 AM) Is Prince putting on the pounds? Umm

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Sep 23, 2013 -> 08:18 AM) Teams that are +2 or better on turnovers for the season are 28-4 Teams that are -1 to +1 are 8-16 Teams that are -2 or worse are 10-25 Jets are the outlier in that they are -6 in turnovers but 2-1 They should be 1-2 and could have been 0-3. That team has had a rabbit's foot up their ass all year.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 23, 2013 -> 08:43 AM) He's still under contract next year right? You're right, he is. If nothing else, they should look to trade him because I agree, Cabrera won't stay healthy at 3B. Too much wear and tear on his body.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 23, 2013 -> 08:33 AM) I'd expect your right with one big caveat... he has to move to either 1b or preferably DH to do so. Like Frank. He's going to be destroyed at 3b and you can already see it happening the last 2 years. More and more injuries piling up by the time August/September roll around. Oh I agree, which is what you'll see happen next year. There's no way they bring Victor back, even as good as he's been.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 23, 2013 -> 08:22 AM) Did Tom Kelly ever have a team with substantial numbers of veterans play this sloppy? Did he ever have veterans whose play deteriorated this rapidly from solid to sloppy? In 1992, they went 90-72 and had a team that played pretty well overall In 1993, they went 71-91 and the only signficant piece they lost was John Smiley. He saw his veteran players perform far worse that year then they had in the past. Tom Kelly didn't have a winning season from 1993 through 2000. I'm actually with Marty on this one, I don't think anyone on the planet could have saved this team. At the end of the day, you prepare your team to the best of your abilities. These guys have made these plays in the past, so why is it suddenly on Ventura when Beckham or Ramirez can't field a grounder? That's like saying it's Ventura's fault when Konerko gets old or when Tyler Flowers strikes out. That's BS.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 20, 2013 -> 11:28 PM) I agree with greg here. Verlander, Miggy and Prince are 3 of the best in the world. It's totally loser thinking to sit back and wait for them to get worse in order for the sox to get better. Sounds like Bulls fans - "No, we're not really better, but Wade's knees are going to give out at some point. Then we've got 'em!!!" Lame. Prince Fielder has an .830 OPS. Best in the world. Verlander's ERA, walks, and homers are up, and his groundball percentage, strikeouts, and velocity are down. At best, he's been the 3rd best Tigers starter. Best in the world. Oh yeah, these guys are beginning to leave their prime years too and the Tigers have them locked up for at least the next 6 seasons. And if you want proof of Fielder falling off, just look at his father. Cabrera is different because he is much more hitter than any of these other guys. I expect, if anything, for him to transform into a Frank Thomas type as he ages, where he begins to strictly hit for more power when his bat speed slows down. Perhaps he becomes an average hitter rather than power. Either way, I do expect him to age well.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 22, 2013 -> 11:41 AM) Remind me what year that was again when Ozzie won 60? It must be nice when the non-performing employee get to decide whether he stays or not. Because there's a huge difference between 62-100 s***ty and 72-90 s***ty? Especially when the Sox actually dealt players away at the deadline this year as opposed to re-signing everybody in 2007 (except like Mackowiak and Iguchi). There has been an incredible amount of bad luck this year as well as some untimely injuries as well. The idea that Ventura just didn't try this year or perhaps even sat in his office hungover playing on his iPad is silly. By all accounts, the guy cares and works hard, and sometimes it doesn't happen. Many people here wanted Tom Kelly brought in to manage the Sox at one time or another, yet he lost at least 92 games 4 straight years 1997 through 2000. No one ever questioned his ability to prepare the team.

He gets one more year at the very least. Ozzie had a year like this and they won a division the next season.

Mine did only in the sense that I said BRADY SUCKS BUT NOT REALLY HIS RECEIVERS DO THOUGH. Still, I apologize sincerely.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 20, 2013 -> 04:29 PM) Right, so from a front office/roster building perspective, luck had EVERYTHING to do with it. Yes, this is right. The part of the season where numbers drop off that isn't luck are when the replacement players come in, Purcey for Thornton, Rienzo for Peavy, and Garcia for Rios. When you make those moves, you EXPECT to get worse because your talent level has worsened.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 20, 2013 -> 04:26 PM) Yeah you know what? f*** it i'm on team Miami! I need Mike Wallace to be productive, so I join wite. I have a feeling this bandwagon is going up in flames, but it'll be a f***ing blaze of glory

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Sep 20, 2013 -> 12:38 PM) LOL. No. I will bet you 4 internet dollars

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 20, 2013 -> 02:18 PM) haha just kidding. he was burning bibles. it's ok now. release him from custody. I obviously think that's just as bad. People can believe what they want to believe, but these kinds of public display produce are absolutely unnecessary.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Sep 20, 2013 -> 02:43 PM) Yes, this is so important for everyone to understand. That was either in The Book or Baseball Between the Numbers, right? It's also critical for the anti-SABR crowd to understand what you mean when you say "luck" there -- it's not luck that determines those events on the field, it's a player's distribution of performances. From a front office perspective when trying to project how its team will perform, event distribution "acts as luck" because it cannot be reliably predicted. So he's not saying players just run out there flail around and get lucky or unlucky, just that where their successes or failures fall and how they coincide with those of their opponents is beyond the player's control. A .300 hitter will get the hit 3 out of ten times, but which three of those ten will be hits is effectively random when trying to make a projection over the course of a baseball season. Front offices need to be confident their team's talent is within those error bars, and then it's up to the players to go out and succeed. Run this season over again, and the Blue Jays and Red Sox might switch places. AA and his team put enough talent on the field to compete, that just just didn't compete. A lot of little things can ad up in one direction or the other over 162 games. This also brings about the idea of "clutch." In almost every circumstance, there is no such thing as "clutch." Guys will have "clutch" seasons but they will also have seasons where they are not "clutch," when in reality their numbers will not be signficantly different. Now, you can surely find areas where some guys are better or worse, but at the end of the day, Dunn's splits with RISP - .224/.395/.457/.852 - and with no one on base - .238/.345/.496/.842 . The other thing it brings up to me, and this was read in Baseball Between the Numbers, which is a BP book, is that Mike Redmond hit like .500 in his career against Tom Glavine. There are extreme sample size issues though, and while Redmond may have had a bead on Glavine, over time that would have evened out and Redmond only would have been a .300 hitter (or whatever) against Glavine in his career. When you hear people (Hawk) say "he sees him well, he's 4 for 9, 2 of those hits left the yard," you should say to yourself "that means absolutely nothing whatsoever because he could just as easily go 0 for his next 3 and suddenly he's not even hitting that well. These two were both way off topic, but they popped into my head right away.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 20, 2013 -> 12:31 PM) None actually, I quit 2 months ago to try and get a better job. I changed the time and date and now facebook works but still wtf.....Can hackers turn on computers??? I was joking, but to answer to your question, yes they can.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 20, 2013 -> 02:13 PM) If you Abreu and McCann, Dunn gets better pitches. So do Avi and Dayan. Those 5 combined provide massive power. Enough that you can probably live with Gordon, Alexei, Semien, and ADA. De Aza is second on the team in home runs, silly. Ideally, he is your #2 hitter and he reverts back to the .280/.350/.400 guy he can be and someone with better on base skills leading off. In my world, that's Semien.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 20, 2013 -> 01:24 PM) Why would you want to keep a player who nobody would offer anything of value for? Who said want? This is predicated upon smart business practice. Frankly, if the Sox could get someone to eat his whole salary, I'd do it for nothing and I think the Sox would too. But, if you have to pay them to take him off your hands, and you don't have a suitable replacement, why would you not just keep him? There is also the possibility that you can actually "buy" a prospect that you believe in so much by eating the rest of his salary for August and September and getting a C prospect out of the whole deal. Maybe you can get a big arm with massive control problems and you can attempt to turn him around. If Adam Dunn were an onion, you'd see the skin, declare it unedible, and throw it away.

Can someone explain the difference in doing this and calling a black person the n-word or throwing a burning effigy/cross on their lawn?

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Sep 20, 2013 -> 12:24 PM) 1. The Sox aren't winning anything with Dunn next year. 2. Keeping Dunn and letting Konerko go makes no sense marketing wise. Sox fans don't like Dunn. 1. Prove it. You cant. 2. Sox fans like winning more than anything else, and they've proven this time and time again. You are going to win more with Dunn than you are with Konerko at this point in their careers, point blank.