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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 21, 2017 -> 01:53 PM) With the contract he has for this year, and the free agency in the distance after this season, he really doesn't have any trade value. His trade value should be equal to that of a late 2nd round pick, aka a qualifying offer. Assuming Frazier has a similar year to the one he had last year, there is no legitimate reason why the White Sox, assuming they don't trade him, shouldn't tag him with a qualifying offer. They have virtually no commitments financially in the coming years and still have to field a team regardless. If he accepts, which is a possibility, then you have your 3B for 2018 and then his value decreases. If he declines, you recoup some value via draft pick.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 07:53 PM) Might as well give AJ a call. He might be willing to mentor the younger generation of catchers. Not sure who is still a good OF fit They brought Flowers up to back up AJ and he was vehemently opposed to the idea of being a mentor. His personality is not akin to mentoring. The only thing AJ would help the Sox do is lose more games.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 03:13 PM) I don't understand them conceding by having no catcher and no DH/outfielder of note. If you are going to keep all the veterans they are keeping, might as well try to compete til the all star break. They're too cheap, however. Won't spend any cash at all. Embarrassing IMO. This team is not going to compete and there is no free agent available that would move the barometer in any significant direction.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 11:17 AM) That pen needs more than one quality addition before it is ready for a playoff run Sure, the Nats can rely on in season trades to bring in talent, but those almost always end up being expensive. Their farm system is not what it was prior to the Eaton trade either. Robles, Fedde and Soto top it, but not a ton beyond them that can land a quality reliever midseason Kelley, Treinen, Solis, Glover, and Perez are all solid, and they have a few upside arms too. I think the Nationals bullpen is good enough to start the season. If their bullpen completely fails, then they were doomed anyways.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 09:42 AM) That pen is definitely not strong enough to win in the playoffs, or regular season for that matter Washington is a very top heavy team, quality starters and regular position players, but questionable bullpen and bench Bullpen additions can be made midseason though, as evidenced by the Cubs and Indians last year. I think they are perfectly reasonable going to into the year with what they have. Ideally, Robertson kills it in the first half and increases his value.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) His response to bringing anyone in was under the context of free agents, ala Wieters. Matzek was a free agent signing. Hahn always talking out of both sides of his mouth.

QUOTE (Sleepy Harold @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 01:32 PM) Matt Eddy @MattEddyBA 55s #WhiteSox sign LHP Tyler Matzek to a minors deal. The 2009 first-rounder pitched for #Rockies in 2014-15 but spent 16 as reliever in minors Rick Hahn says they aren't bringing anyone else in and then sign a former 1st round pick, smh, make up your mind Rick.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 11:35 AM) Defensive metrics in a 35 game sample? I wouldn't put much weight in that.I've seen them both play and they're both absolutely awful. You're right in that regard, but Schwarber looks like he has a clue as to what he's doing out there, even if there are severe athletic limitations. Garcia is as lost as anyone could ever be, other than maybe Lastings Milledge.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 16, 2017 -> 08:00 PM) No he won't. He's worse than Avi out there and that's saying something. No he's not. In a total of about 35 games, he's been a slightly below average fielder. Avisail Garcia is one of the worst in the majors.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Feb 16, 2017 -> 05:07 PM) I dunno, but what they are doing is ridiculous. They traded 2 guys. What kind of rebuild is that? I want to win over anything else now, but if not, get the rebuild going. I don't see the rebuild that many of you see. I see 5-8 years of pathetic baseball ahead. This is not a short process, and if they do not feel they are receiving sufficient value for their players, they are not going to trade them. Using their forecasts and they're best guesses, they have obviously determined that trading Quintana for the packages being offered was not a net plus. How pissed would you have been if they'd gotten 2 mediocre prospects for Quintana?

QUOTE (FT35 @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 12:58 PM) If he was traded...wouldn't he have to pass a physical!? Reyes is a stud. I feel bad for the guy and certainly hope for the best. Not if the team is aware of the condition prior to the trade. The White Sox traded for Jake Peavy while he was on the DL, and Arodys Vizcaino was traded from Atlanta to Chicago like 4 months after undergoing Tommy John surgery.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 14, 2017 -> 12:06 PM) Apparently Reyes could be out for the year, so St. Louis might jump back into the Q sweepstakes after all. Theoretically could make Reyes available in a trade too. He is easily the most interesting piece in the Cardinals system. It's risky, but ceilings don't get much higher.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 02:20 AM) Well, 0.9 WAR would be worth about $6.5M annually. I figured Carter would have gotten at least 1 yr/$5-6M somewhere. His floor is probably that of a 0 or -1 WAR player though too, and it also sort of dictates how the league views him too. A $3 million salary is that of a part time player.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Feb 9, 2017 -> 04:12 PM) And Chris Carter signing for so little is surprising as well. I mean, maybe a little surprising, but he's a guy with one tool. He can hit the snot off of a baseball when he makes contact, and that's it. If the power tails from where it is - among the best in the league - he's virtually a replacement level player, like he was in 2015 (0.4 WAR). This year he was 0.9. He has value, but he is a highly flawed player with no versatility beyond 1B and no value beyond hitting the ball a mile.

QUOTE (turnin' two @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 06:30 PM) The Twins won 59 games last season. What exactly have they done to get better? The Padres and Reds won 68 games, and again, haven't gotten any better. Brewers won 73, and haven't gotten any better. The Sox have to be pretty bad to get that first pick. To me it is more of a difference than Quintana alone can make. I agree with your conclusion, but the Twins won 83 games in 2015. What was the difference between 2015 and 2016 that cost them 24 games? Wild variance can occur in baseball. Odds are very good that the Sox will be a bad team next year, and that they will have a top 5 or 10 pick, and that they'll get a guy who will be very, very talented. The Cubs currently have the best foundation of major league talent in the league, and they never had the first overall pick throughout the course of their rebuild. The more important factor is drafting the right player.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 10:26 AM) I really think Washington tried to land free agent relievers but failed to sign any of them. Now they are sulking back to the White Sox complaining they can't pay money or prospects but want Robertson. Sox know they have the advantage because the Nats really do need him. Eventually I think they will bite the bullet and offer up a respectable package that includes either Fedde or Soto (likely Soto) plus another piece, which would be a quality move for the Sox We will eat 6-8 million of the contract to help offset some cost, and done deal I do not believe the Nationals need David Robertson. I think the two teams will bounce a few scenarios off of each other but that ultimately nothing will come to fruition. The Nationals have a decent, if unproven, back end of the bullpen, and additions to the bullpen can always be made midseason too. The Cubs used like 20 different guys and their bullpen situation was frankly less volatile than most other major league teams. I think the Nationals are going to try and find a relative bargain for a proven reliever. The Sox really can't provide that, unless the Nationals are willing to take like Dan Jennings or something.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 07:23 PM) Source: Sergio Romo, #Dodgers agree on contract. @MLBNetwork @MLB https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/827687326927106048 Nationals have to be getting desperate. Highly doubt. Shawn Kelley is very good, and their bullpen is better than most people realize anyways. Robertson is a midway point trade piece.

Not that I have any knowledge, but Avisail Garcia seems the exact type of player with whom Williams would have fallen in love and Hahn would have declined. I seem to recall the Sox wanting someone else - may have been Iglesias himself - for Peavy, but the Sox upper hands asked for Garcia over anyone else. Never liked him. Never made sense to me. I compared him to Juan Encarnacion at that point. That's optimistic at this point. A best possible scenario is Edwin Encarnacion, and thats like a 1000 to 1 chance. He's more likely to be successful as a relief pitcher than he is as an outfielder.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 06:33 PM) So we're talking about a 32 run swing? Realistically, can it actually get worse than that? Yes. Unfortunately, 3 of them reside in Minnesota. That JB Shuck loss looks worse and worse each day. (UZR/150 based on 350 PAs, excluding catchers) http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=...a&page=2_30

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 06:07 PM) Good article by Olney about what FA has turned into. Since it's insider, here is an excerpt (all I can provide) The agent touched on a damaging part of the trend for free agents: Because so many players have to settle for one-year deals this winter, almost all of them will be looking for spots next winter, increasing the flood of players looking for jobs. The greater the supply of available players, the more that the salaries are depressed for players who aren't the elite free agents. "When 80 percent of the players get 20 percent of the money," one agent said, "they will realize that the system that they bargained for was horrific." Clubs that are going to lose have no incentive to spend. As a result of the tens of millions of dollars gleaned from television and MLB.com deals, teams no longer have to rely on attendance as their primary source of revenue. Clubs have no incentive to spend money on players to improve their ability to compete, and some teams are choosing to keep their money rather than make their clubs incrementally more competitive, or spend on a name player like Napoli. I don't buy what the agent is saying. Players are looking for one year deals so they can have a good year and net a multi-year deal. They do not "have" to settle for a one year deal. I have no basis for this other than deductive reason, but to assume that Jose Bautista didn't have a multi-year offer in the range of $12-15 million is absolutely ludicrous. http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/01/blue...e-bautista.html As the story goes - $17 million guaranteed, $18 million mutual option, $500K buyout, attendance bonuses, and a $20 million vesting option for 2019. I feel the Jays caved in, not the player, in this regard. That mutual option has about a 1% chance of being picked up by both sides, so he will receive $17.5 million to play for one year in Toronto. The qualifying offer is $17.2 million. How is that unfair to the player? Teams are making multi-year offers. Players are declining those to attempt to cash in later. Ask Matt Wieters and Colby Rasmus how that worked out. They are probably mentioning 1-2 WAR players like Chris Carter, Mike Napoli, Jason Hammel, and the like, for having not signed yet, even though it's February 4th. "Well, you're a 1-2 WAR player with a lot of reasons to question your long-term health as an employee of this organization." Carter does not make near enough contact nor play enough defense to justify a multi-year deal, Mike Napoli is old, and Jason Hammel has consistently been a dud in the second half (career ERA: 1st - 3.99 2nd - 5.06, FIP: 1st - 4.05, 2nd - 4.48, xFIP: 1st - 3.98, 2nd - 4.20) and has never thrown 178 innings or more in a season in his career. Beyond that, clubs that are going to lose absolutely have incentive to spend. The Cubs brought in Scott Feldman on a 1 year, $6 million deal and acquired Jake Arrieta and Pedro Strop. They have no incentive to spend EXCESSIVELY, but they have incentive to spend. I have not read this article, and don't want this Filibuster'd, but this sounds like a bulls*** excuse from a union executive b****ing about his members not getting "the money" "they deserve," wholly failing to understand the rapidly evolving market that is the MLB in general. As boring as this has been, this offseason has probably seen the most amount of reasonable and justifiable deals in the history of the league. If we are really questioning the Kendrys Morales deal as one of the worst, then I think we've reached a new peak.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Feb 3, 2017 -> 02:26 PM) What does good defense even look like? It's been so long

Here's Eric Longenhagen's comments on Fernando Tatis Jr: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/prospect-re...n-diego-padres/

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jan 29, 2017 -> 01:29 PM) If Frazier makes it to the point that the Sox have to decide whether to give him a QO it will shock me. If Frazier repeats his 2016 performance, I make a qualifying offer without batting an eye.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 28, 2017 -> 03:21 PM) Your post doesn't make any sense. They'll have tons of money to spend. Why not bring him back for a couple years to sell tickets and provide a veteran presence for all the young guys? It does make some sense. I understand the value of having a guy like Frazier in the locker room and on the field to help show young guys how hard they have to work, practice, study film, and whatever else. On the other hand, you are also removing potential value from a rebuild in getting a younger player in a position to succeed Frazier at 3B while also removing any potential value you may get from Frazier in a potential trade. I would take this year by year. Under the new CBA, you can only a qualifying offer to a player once, so I'd let this year run its course, keeping Frazier available in a trade but only at the price of a late 2nd round pick (say a 50 FV player and a lottery ticket), and if no one bites, you offer him a qualifying offer. If he accepts, you have him for 2018 too, and if he does not, then you recoup the value, even if it's a year later. At that point, a 1 year, $18 million contract is not going to kill the White Sox.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jan 28, 2017 -> 02:08 PM) Any other Busts at Number 1 besides D. Young? How do you rate a bust? Jurickson Profar and Matt Wieters, jump out, but Josh Hamilton (with the Devil Rays) and Ben Grieve could both be there, as well as Rick Ankiel and Jay Bruce. As far as #1 prospects go, those guys were disappointments, but they were all fairly solid MLB players at one point or another, as was Delmon Young. Also, Brien Taylor is probably the biggest bust of all time. https://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prosp...spects/all-time