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QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Apr 18, 2017 -> 04:33 PM) I'd like to see some comparisons between Avi Garcia and Kyle Schwarber. Garcia is 25 while Schwarber is 24. Schwarber is about 6 ft. tall and weighs about 240 pounds. Avisail Garcia is 6 ft 4" and I am not sure of his weight because he has lost at least 15 pounds. in any case, I believe he weighs less than Schwarber. Speed on the bases and in the outfield- No comparison. Avi has plus speed. Schwarber is a dump truck with a flat tire. Nwither is a plus defender and they have both made lawn darts of themselves in the outfield. OBP and Batting Average? Schwarber appears to a consistent .240 average hitter. Avi probably will hit for a better average this season. Would the Sox trade Avi for Schwarber straight up? I wouldn't I would trade Garcia to the Cubs for Schwarber so fast it would make your head spin.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Apr 17, 2017 -> 11:35 PM) Who is Robert's pro comp? What are the chances the Sox sign him? Yes I know I could look but 15 pages is a s***load Rey Ordonez, 1.2% sorry, just trolling. He's good, and seemingly OK chance of getting him.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 17, 2017 -> 07:15 PM) So Eric thames He piqued my interest prior to going to Korea, glad to see him doing so well this go around. Wish the Sox would have been in on him. I mean, as long as he doesn't embarrass himself over the remaining 150 games, he's already been worthy of the $5 million or so he's going to be paid this year.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Apr 15, 2017 -> 05:49 PM) So, if you remove the innings where he's pitched poorly his numbers look a lot better. I'm not panicking about Quintana, but I think people were underestimating the risk of keeping him into the season. Yeah, because it's 2 f***ing innings.

QUOTE (maxjusttyped @ Apr 15, 2017 -> 05:31 PM) People were too quick to dismiss the injury and performance risk with Quintana. Even the most consistent pitchers have a ton of risk associated with them. His peripherals are awful too, so you can't even say he's been unlucky. The only positive is at least his velocity isn't down. Quintana has thrown 17 innings this year. In 2 of those innings, he's allowed 10 runs. In the other 15, he's allowed 4. I am not concerned.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Apr 15, 2017 -> 10:54 AM) A rare boring pitching day for the minors. Personally I can't wait for Mike Pelfrey.

No one is trading for Quintana right now. There is value in speculating, but the Rockies could just as easily fall out of contention and be irrelevant. No one is going to overreact to an injury 10 games into the season. I can see talks heating up in May - that's when the Sox initial trade for Jake Peavy occurred, but he turned it down. I wouldn't even rule out a trade prior to June 1st. But that's when things get serious.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Apr 14, 2017 -> 11:28 PM) Let's all start throwing out random trade packages, because f*** it. Robertson to.... Nationals for SS Juan Soto and OF Andrew Stevenson Giants for 1B Chris Shaw and OF Bryan Reynolds Rangers for C Jose Trevino, RHP Alex Speas, OF Jairo Beras Mariners for OF Brayan Hernandez, 3B Joe Rizzo I know I have fallen out of the loop as far as prospects are concerned, but I like to think I pay enough attention to know a prospect or two from each team, and if Robertson continues pitching like this, then none of these packages are worthwhile. Aroldis Chapman, as a walk year free agent, was used to acquire Gleyber Torres, one of the best prospects in the game. The Yankees also got a huge haul from the Indians for Andrew Miller, who is on a similar contract to that of Robertson. If Robertson appears to be one of the 5-10 best relievers in the game come June or July, the Sox are getting legitimate top prospects for him. If these are all very good prospects, then I apologize.

Davidson's talent is very apparent. Also, Todd Frazier has s***ty luck. The Polanco play should have been a seeing eye single but wasn't. However, that play Dozier made was crazy. The Twins had him positioned correctly, but he f***ing smoked that ball. If Putnam stays healthy, he's going to turn into an interesting trade chip.

Heads, go away, I want to see Moncada dingers

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Apr 12, 2017 -> 08:02 PM) Fifth infielder? What games have you been watching pray tell I fully agree. Even if/when Moncada comes up, Saladino needs to be playing close to every day. He's a really good player. Love his approach at the plate and his glove in the field. I've long said I'm OK with the Sox tendering Frazier a qualifying offer this offseason, but he's not going to be around, so if they were to trade him and get less than the value of a 2nd round pick - we're talking a 40-45 FV player, someone you expect to essentially be a fringe starting player or bullpen arm - then that is fine. I actually haven't been this excited about the Sox in a long, long time. Also, I didn't see the game tonight, but a general "duh" observation - Tim Anderson's footwork on his throws needs to improve tremendously.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 12, 2017 -> 08:26 PM) I will take lotto tickets for Holland and Shields no problem. An org's top 10-15 range A ball high upside guy. Just need to fill out the system with depth now. The top end talent is there. Absolutely. And they should be taking shots on guys who get filtered out of systems. Just read a blurb earlier that the Giants expect to trade Clayton Blackburn. What could they honestly be asking for him? Seems like a guy that would make sense. Not a huge arm, but he's put up decent numbers, and what is there to lose?

QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 12, 2017 -> 07:14 PM) Disappointing regardless of the defense. Has to get his stuff back or he's going to end up as reliever at best Frankly, if he's a dominant reliever, that is honestly not a bad thing.

This is a good win.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jan 31, 2017 -> 10:20 PM) Wite, please explain the gaps on that graph. Apologies for the very late response on this, but these are based on likelihood of outcomes through the KATOH projection system. As hi8is mentioned, KATOH views Tatis Jr as a boom or bust player, most likely being a player who will bust based upon the track record of this type of player, but acknowledging that there's a chance he comes up and is not productive, that he is mildly productive, and that he turns into an average or better regular starting player. I'm guessing because there was a KATOH projection for him, they posted it. People have been clamoring for Kevin Maitan in a trade with the Braves, but if he were to have a KATOH projection chart for him, he'd probably end up somewhere around a 50% chance of no MLB simply because players so young are often unpredictable. If he hits this year, that chart will change drastically.

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Apr 11, 2017 -> 08:29 AM) Horizon: Zero Dawn is fantastic. Right up there with Red Dead Redemption and The Last of Us for single-player console experiences. Challenging too. And, at least as I've noticed thus far, you don't lose progress upon dying. That was always my biggest fear with any game - play for 2 hours, die stupidly, and lose all your progress. Maybe I've just been saving better, but there seem to be actual worthwhile checkpoints.

QUOTE (Soha @ Apr 11, 2017 -> 10:08 AM) My thinking is, Houston has had 5001 opportunities to trade for Q and wouldn't budge. I just don't see it happening with them. My guess is it happens to a team that hasn't been one of the more rumored teams for Quintana. Teams like the Nats, Dodgers, Red Sox (gasp!) or Cubs maybe. It will depend on how the playoff scenarios develop and who's starting pitching has injuries/underperformers, etc. I think they wouldn't budge because they didn't feel that Quintana was a big enough of an upgrade to do so, given their initial situation. A rotation featuring Keuchel, McCullers, McHugh, Morton, and Musgrove is talented enough that, if everything goes even according to plan, they'd be sitting OK, and there is potential that rotation could be very good. However, injuries can and do strike, as do struggles. McHugh is out for a while and both McCullers and Morton have been injury-riddled. If they get to a point where they are using replacement level performance in their rotation, which could easily cost them in the standings, their willingness to pay more is worth it because of how large the upgrade is.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 11, 2017 -> 10:42 AM) I'm not complaining just to complain, but thank you for your feedback. You seem to admit that he's a warm body, but when I say a different warm body would help us either lose more or win more, you seem to take exception to that. A worse minor league would help us lose more. Do you dispute this? A proven ML free agent would help us win more. Do you dispute this? Since it's the DH position, literally ANY ML free agent who was at the end of his career, or fourth outfielder type, or fifth infielder type, or.....anyone would have been fine if we were trying to win. Since it's the DH position, literally ANY minor leaguer who can hold a bat would have been fine if we were trying to lose. My point is that the the TYPE of player he is is WRONG FOR OUR PARK if we were trying to get offensive value here. Could you please respond to THAT POINT? Thank you. How is he wrong for the park? I don't understand what you're getting at. Because he is a minor leaguer who can hold a bat. He seems to fit your description perfectly.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 11:58 PM) http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/pro...sp?P=cody-asche 681 career OPS in nearly 1200 MLB at-bats. If he could approach his minor league average of 794, he might be close to a split/platoon DH, but anything sub 750 isn't going to come close to an "average" DH/RF/LF in the American League. Avi Garcia is at at 703 OPS for almost 1500 MLB at-bats. At least he still has a bit of the age/potential/late development argument in his favor. But Avi averaging 14-16 homers per season just isn't good enough with his serious defensive liabilities. Cody Asche is literally one year older than Avisail Garcia. Why do people seem to think that Asche is like a 32 year old journeyman?

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 05:08 PM) Yea I know Moncada won't do it... but if he would try to play the outfield in the minors and it worked out, that would help the team more than he could as a second basemen. That would replace Jacob May with Moncada in the line-up and leave Salad in the line-up instead of putting him on the bench when Moncada comes up. Then send Yolmar to the minors or lose Asche or Leury and bring up a LH bat to platoon with Davidson at DH..,,Delmonico, Hayes or Rayburn. IMO, both Moncada and Delmonico would behoove themselves and the Sox if they put an outfield glove on down in the minors to see if they can handle it out there. You are saying Moncada and Delmonico should do this. I think you mean to say Hahn and Hostetler and Grudzielanek and whoever else should have them do it.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 03:58 PM) What I'm essentially saying is a powerless hitter with no wheels, average on base and poor defense has no chance of developing into anything Even a .150 hitter capable of jacking the ball 17 times out of the park on pure muscle would produce more runs than this guy could and we might see something out of that person that might be more valuable than a dead end guy in a spot The league composite last year was .243/.320/.400/.720. Cody Asche for his career is .239/.298/.383/.681, and it is not unreasonable to think he can improve. If he doesn't, he'll be playing in the minors for someone within 2 months. It really has been that long since the Sox had a rebuild that people forget that guys like Asche are the exact type of player you take a chance on. There is literally no downside of playing him - if he sucks, he helps the Sox lose, which helps. If he plays well, you either have a piece that you can look towards in the future or trade away, which helps. If he shows no signs of progress during that time frame, you release him. It's really simple.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Apr 10, 2017 -> 03:05 PM) My question truly is - what is the upside. In literally a perfect scenario, what does Asche produce? .270/.320/.380/.700 with no defensive upside and potentially a liability? What the hell is that? In a perfect scenario, he is a league average or better hitter, which is plenty valuable.

Just for reference's sake: Asche - AAA - .297/.359/.491/.850, 20.2% K, 8.2% BB, 644 PAs Davidson - AAA - .232/.314/.410/.723, 29.2% K, 9.6% BB, 1967 PAs And Cody Asche is 9 months older than Matt Davidson. I'm not saying that Cody Asche is going to be anything special, but he is a perfectly reasonable player to be giving at bats during this rebuild period.

QUOTE (AJUribe @ Apr 9, 2017 -> 11:45 PM) Basically Q is going to be awful for us because it is simply impossible for him to care when he knows he's getting traded and it completely effects his entire psyche. Hahn's a ballbreaker and l think he'd rather sit on Q before taking a penny less than his preseason asking price. Gee, you're right, Quintana sure was awful on Sunday.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Apr 8, 2017 -> 01:27 PM) I don't care if this comes back to bite me, but I think Saladino is a legit everyday major leaguer player. He's a much better hitter than a lot of posters give him credit for. I think value wise, he could ultimately be a poor man's Zobrist. Good contact skills, good eye, a bit of pop, and he's athletic enough to play around the diamond. His walk on base skills haven't shown up as much at the majors yet, but I think they will over time. He's worth keeping around.