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QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 07:18 PM) I never assume Santiago will ever get the chance to start. Clearly Ventura has some issue w/ Santiago in the rotation, considering how hard he tries to waste him in the pen. God forbid they go with a guy who's put up a good ERA and a better WHIP in the rotation while adding a left handed arm to the pen who can also go multiple innings at a time. As of now, with Peavy out, I too think it would be wise to give Santiago an extended stay in the rotation.

One is MLB Draft, one is just the Sox. So there

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 03:31 PM) Malone came back on the Dan Patrick show this morning and said he was messing around with Dan because he knew that Dan has a "man-crush" on MJ. He said MJ would definitely be in his starting five, but he won't say who he'd take out because Dan refuses to have a serious conversation. I don't think Dan refuses to have a serious conversation, I just don't think it's possible to have a serious conversation with Karl Malone

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 11:23 AM) To the best of my knowledge sports are segregated, but the segregation ironically is that men cant play on a woman's team. If its just about the best players, why cant guys play in the WNBA? This is absolutely 100% the truth. In fact, I think men have it harder because there are clearly jobs that they might apply for that they have no chance in getting simply because they're a dude. For instance: Hooters server Professional cheerleader (keyword there being "professional")

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 12:03 AM) I don't really care about rebounds. A 6'8 260 pound F is supposed to be a better rebounder than a 6'6 215 pound SG. But LeBron is no doubt a better passer and has better court awareness than MJ. Jordan: wait for the double team, find the open man. LeBron can do that and run an offense (ala Magic). Which is why comparing Jordan and LeBron is silly to begin with. They are not similar style players. The most recent player who played a similar game to Jordan was Kobe, and Jordan is quite clearly superior to Kobe. You compare LeBron to Magic Johnson, and, to me, there's no debate which one of those two is better - that being Magic. It was unreal how good Magic was. I still don't think anyone can hang with Jordan, in their primes, one on one. An incredibly talented and versatile scorer who also played incredible defense? No chance anybody beats him. The only guy who might is Magic. QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 09:22 AM) Karl Malone certainly remembers Oscar. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-don...-002126880.html lmao. Worst top 5 list I've ever seen. Sorta wondering why he didn't pick himself...five times.

QUOTE (2nd_city_saint787 @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 04:49 PM) Throw in Trent Edwards and Jordan Palmer to the mix as well...Wasn't Edwards decent at one point? For like 8 games, he was a poor man's version of Chad Pennington. Then he got knocked around a bit, and turned into "Captain Checkdown" which was an actual nickname. There's a reason guys end up playing for like 14 different teams, and it's because they're smart enough to be a capable 3rd QB (aka, they can breathe and throw a football) but the idea of him ever being a guy you might have to count on at some point for more than 2 plays is frightening. I hate Trent Edwards as a QB so much, and I loved the pick at the time. He is just a terrible, terrible QB.

QUOTE (Cerbaho-WG @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 11:22 AM) Yes, because people were calling for Flowers' head two weeks into the season. People were calling for Flowers' head before he had played a spring training game as the official starter at catcher

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 5, 2013 -> 11:43 AM) I think the fact that Bartolo Colon is in his third or fourth prime, probably all aided by roids, is one of the biggest laughers out there. Oh sure, guy was out of the game for a bit, but no big deal. He's awesome again naturally! He re-figured it out! What a gamer! The f***ing 40 year old has 42 strikeouts against 4 walks on the season with a 1.05 WHIP. This is a guy who couldn't get any one out from 2006 to 2007 and only started 25 games in 2008 and 2009. Then he magically misses the 2010 season and comes back with the Yankees. Since then, his age 39 and 40 seasons have been the best he's produced statistically since 2002 with the Indians/MONTREAL EXPOS. GMAB. This is so blatantly obvious I hope he's banned for life. You're trying to tell me we should be suspicious of guys who go from averaging 89 MPH with their fastball at age 36 to 92 MPH on their fastball at age 38? Why? Are you going to try and tell me that Barry Bonds used steroids too?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 4, 2013 -> 11:21 PM) Puig FTW! What a monstrosity. That first homer leaves, like, any park in America.

How many of those names would be being busted based on double jeopardy? I see Colon and Cabrera on that list as guys who have already served a suspension.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 30, 2013 -> 04:04 PM) I enjoy distancing myself from Soxtalk for awhile and then returning and reading through posts by the same members (often year to year) who cannot seem to recognize a White Sox team for what it is. I don't know if immersing yourself in every pitch of every game and then coming on here to discuss it every day removes you objectivity, but it's troubling in some cases. This is not a well constructed ballclub. They will not be winning in the playoffs. I'm guessing that, to some degree, this post is directed at me. I do not believe this team will reach the playoffs, and, as currently constructed, I think they are barely a .500 team. The offense lacks any sort of dynamic "playmakers" if you will that most teams have, there's a lot of average talent, and there are a ton of players that go to the plate with terrible approaches. I don't know if that's a coaching staff thing or a bad player thing or both, but it's disturbing. It's been this way for a number of years now through coaching and regime changes and still seemingly the White Sox have only had a competent offense once in the last 9 years. The seemingly lack of direction towards the future is distressing as well. The bullpen is worrisome as well. It's an area that can be fixed quickly with good trades, shrewd waiver pick up, and ballsy signings, and not by spending $19 million on Scott Linebrink. That is something that likely won't happen this year, though there's time. That said, there's not a ton of talent, aside from Reed, Crain, and Jones (who, while struggling, still has very good stuff) in either the majors or AAA. As I mentioned earlier, I like Jhan Marinez, but he's struggled this year too. I liked Gregory Infante and Sean Tracey too, so guys that impress me out of the pen don't exactly have a good track record. The rotation is awesome, and there's great depth there. I've suggested trading Axelrod to the Brewers for some relievers (which I'd still do right now without hesitation), but he's piece that can be traded for a reliever or two, and the Sox have other guys who may be converted to relief that could work (in AAA, specifically Castro and Rienzo, but there are obviously others too). This team as currently constructed I believe is a long ways away from competing, but I don't think it's as far as most people want to believe. You need 3-4 guys who can put up an OPS in the .775+ range, with 1-2 of those in the .850+ range. The rest need to be atleast at .675 or above, and you want your OBP to be atleast .325 as a team. If they could get that, they'd start winning a lot more games. There are going to be options this offseason to fill some of those holes that will be expensive. It's better to fill those holes cheaply than to spend too much money on it...and that's what she said.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ May 30, 2013 -> 04:02 PM) Free Santos Rodriguez He's pitched in 9 games for 14 innings and has allowed 12 walks. Don't think the control is there yet. You're better off giving Purcey a shot. QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ May 30, 2013 -> 04:05 PM) Troncoso 21 IPs only 14 hits surrendered....WHIP at 0.86. Has been saving down in AAA & he can not be anywhere near as bad as Omo. He's also only struck out 14. The nice thing about Troncoso would be that he'd throw strikes. The problem is that his strikes end up landing about 450 feet from home plate. I honestly don't care if they give him a shot, because he can't be worse than Omogrosso, but guys usually don't figure "it" out at the age of 30. I am still surprised the club is carrying Omogrosso, even if he is just a mopup guy. He's 29 years old, has gotten blown up this year, and his ERA in AAA is 5.40. His peripherals are good (about a 4 K/BB, K/9 >9, HR/9 of 0.85), but some guys don't have it. I'd like to see them use Jhan Marinez a little more as he impressed me when he was up last year, but play some musical chairs until you find one that works.

GONNA LOSE THE BP CUP FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HISTORY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

QUOTE (JoshPR @ May 30, 2013 -> 03:29 PM) LOL ! My bad I slipped big time on that one! Thanks for making look silly! Major brain cramp! Thanks little hurt too don't know why in the heck I tought it was other way around I tried to be as nice and factual as possible without being like "hay stoopidhead ur an idiot LOL." Hope I did an OK job.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 30, 2013 -> 02:24 PM) I haven't seen many comments about George Brett taking over as the hitting coach of the Royals. Does this means Moustakis and Hosmer will now be cured? One thing I don't understand about their move is the guys he replaced are being reassigned to the minors. If they are bad enough to be fired, why would you want them messing with your prospects? Just more pine tar and stories and George Brett s***ting his pants

I have been the owner that has let the dogs run up to other dogs/people before and it has never been intentional. The first time, it was my sister's dog (she has two but this was her male). A guy came out of his house and was loading up his truck and the dog took off after him (I'm pretty sure because he thought he was my brother-in-law). He's a gentle giant though and wouldn't do anything, but I corraled him, got him inside, and apologized profusely right away. The other time was our dog, who growls and barks a bit more but usually isn't aggressive. A couple was walking a poodle looking dog and my dog ran right up to it and they got in each others faces, started barking, and I got in there as soon as I could. Got him in the house and apologized profusely again. For me, I just didn't think the dogs would run out, but they did, and neither of them have been outside of a fenced in area with me since that point. It's embarrassing as hell though.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 30, 2013 -> 01:31 PM) Over Navarro? Really? I think it is pretty close Navarro takes it. Navarro with the White Sox - 102 G, 87 GS, 25-43, 6.06 ERA, 542 IP, 1.69 WHIP, ERA+ 76 If you must know, Dunn's OPS+ as a member of the White Sox is at an 84 OPS+

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 30, 2013 -> 01:01 PM) This post made me look up his stats to show how truly bad he was and his numbers surprised me. The 5.02 ERA is ugly, but his WHIP was only 0.98, and opponents hit .157/.259/.333 off him, which is great. It seemed like everytime out there he gave up a walk and a homer, but that's not true of course. The 5.08 career minor league ERA, including 195 BB in 233.2 IP and 1.61 career WHIP indicates a different story. He's had about one effective season as a reliever (last season), and he still walked 20 in 34.1 IP. I do not mind saying that he can't get anyone out and can't find the strike zone. His minor league track record has proven as much.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ May 30, 2013 -> 12:59 PM) Those Michigan f***ers really love to grasp to anything. Just remind them that the SOX were the last only AL Central team to win a WS and they can shut the f*** up until they actually win a game in the WS. ;-) Oh yeah and tell Mr. Triple Crown to take the bat off his shoulder. Fixed-ed. The Twins were in the the West in 1991.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 30, 2013 -> 12:27 PM) I didn't realize he was injured. I just assumed he was in AAA because of that whole "can't get lefties out" thing. I think you mean the "can't get anybody out, can't throw a beach ball in the zone" thing

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 30, 2013 -> 12:20 PM) wow The 2005 White Sox were 13-44 when they gave up 5 or more runs. Typically, when you have a weak offense and a strong pitching staff, you are going to lose a lot of games where you give up a lot of runs. These sorts of results shouldn't be surprising. Perhaps a good sign is that the 2013 White Sox are actually outpacing the 2005 White Sox in percentage of games allowing 5 or more runs, if barely (35.2% to 34%).

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ May 30, 2013 -> 02:07 AM) See leave it like that and Sox lose. I hope you mods are happy ! Maybe we can salvage the last game if you change it now. We'll try it your way

QUOTE (mataipaepae @ May 30, 2013 -> 12:00 PM) I am relaxed. I just see a team with a ceiling of average. we have a very fine pitching staff, but our offense is very inept. so why not use our pieces now to improve for next year? I am not talking a fire sale either. I am saying that our base to base running is clogging the offense up. and our homerun or nothing is really slowing us down. I love paul konerko, but if he can bring back some very nice pieces why not look into it. I bet a team that is challenging would love to have him. and would give up something of value as well. You hang onto them because you will lose absolutely nothing by trading them in July as opposed to June. The offense needs to get better, but there's plenty of time for that to happen. We always point to 2005, but that offense was not good. Among starting players, only Konerko, Dye, and Iguchi had OPS+'s above 100, and Iguchi was only slightly better than league average. The Sox current offense is more than capable of duplicating those sort of numbers. I'm willing to give that time to come around. Where they do need significant help is in the bullpen. We thought this was a rock solid group coming into the year - Reed, Crain, Thornton, Jones, Lindstrom, and Veal. Two of those guys have been complete flops this year, two have been very mediocre, while only two have been pretty stellar. Santiago is back but, against my craziest thoughts from last year, he's been seemingly far better and is far more valuable as a starting pitcher. If this team is to make any move, they should try out and/or acquire some new arms for the bullpen because as currently constructed, it is by far the team's biggest downfall. Because of how poor it is, hitters are trying to do too much and pitchers are pressing and trying to be perfect. If they get some stability back there, other guys will settle into their roles and relax. And s***, if those guys flop, then either move on to the next, deal them again, or hope they pitch better next year.

God I love Adrian Beltre. I wish he had spent the last 10 years on the Sox http://imgur.com/a/kwPzi#0

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 30, 2013 -> 11:40 AM) Is there some Beautiful Mind logic to having Peavy bat 7th? Or Flowers anywhere but 8th? My ultimate lineup for the Sox De Aza - CF Ramirez - SS Viciedo - LF Gillaspie - 3B Konerko - 1B Dunn - DH Rios - RF Flowers - C Keppinger - 2B this is better known as the "Tommy Tutone Lineup" 8 6 7 5 3 0 9 2 4