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QUOTE (fathom @ May 4, 2009 -> 02:06 PM) Pitching to their potential is probably not a good phrase to use, as the Tigers have a starting rotation loaded with potential. Verlander, Galarraga, Jackson is looking like a pretty good 1-2-3 for them, and then you have the big time arms in Bonderman/Porcello. Contreras' potential this year, even if he turns it around, is being around a 4.50 ERA pitcher. He just doesn't have the 93-96 mph velocity he used to have. If Edwin Jackson maintains that control, he is going to be damn good, even if his K/9 never catches up to what it should be. I also think, atleast 1-4, the Sox rotation is better than the Tigers right now. The problem is the lineup. I'm not a huge fan of the Tigers lineup, but the Sox lineup is just awful right now, and if these injuries don't stop, it's going to be bad for a while. I think the Sox lineup, when healthy, is probably the best in the division. The problem is that it hasn't been healthy, and, as has been mentioned on here before, there is absolutely 0 depth within the system. I'm not counting on anyone in AAA to help the lineup this season.

QUOTE (Jimbo's Drinker @ May 4, 2009 -> 12:36 PM) Have you seen the White Sox approach at the plate. Pull the ball and fly out, every f***in time. Just for once, can we find someone to get some solid singles!!! Chris Getz says "QFT"

all you have to do to see how dominant Ryan was is to look at his H/9. 6.5 hits per 9 over his entire career, which is friggin phenomenal. He actually had two seasons where he allowed more walks than hits. That's pretty crazy in its own right.

QUOTE (Tmar @ May 3, 2009 -> 02:14 PM) It should be. With the frequency you do it, it is borderline aggravated battery. so long as bruising yourself isn't illegal, I'm perfectly fine

QUOTE (Kalapse @ May 3, 2009 -> 11:19 AM) We actually got the tying run to the plate in the form of Brent LillyBridge in the top of the 7th. He then proceeded to have quite possibly the worst AB of the season for any White Sox hitter. I remember that. Day threw a slurve on like 1-1 or 2-1, and I knew the AB was over at that moment, even though Lillibridge had another pitch to see. He's absolutely horrendous.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 3, 2009 -> 10:29 AM) I was going to lose it if JD broke his hand because we had to play the last four innings of a game that was already over. they actually got back in it even though they did still end up losing.

it's a blast from the past looking at that roster. It's mainly just former prospects who were colossal busts, AAAA players who can tear the ball up, or older players who use to be really good.

QUOTE (Texsox @ May 2, 2009 -> 08:29 PM) Wow, everyone assumed I meant Junior? Do you mean that is the only future hall of famer on the list?? I assumed you meant Darin Erstad

Alexei, you should probably hit it out of the park tonight instead of just to the warning track

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ May 2, 2009 -> 11:02 AM) According to the internets, she turns 18 on September 27. At that point in time, I will return to this thread with further comment. it's not illegal to jerk off

QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ May 2, 2009 -> 11:18 PM) cubs don't offer the protection the cards did in the lineup last year. cubs fans I know are not happy with him at all. I would say they offer more protection than the Cardinals last year.

Podsednik, 2006-08

QUOTE (tommy @ May 1, 2009 -> 01:17 PM) There is some bright news, Getz is back in the lineup, and if Anderson wasn't injured, he would be the starting CF and a number 9th hitter. Podsednik is only a backup, and yes while there are better options outside of the organization, most of us here would rather have Scott than Jerry Owens. With that said, I'm expecting the White Sox to sweep the Texas Rangers. If Podsednik is the backup right now, who starts? Lillibridge? I'd almost rather put no one out there.

QUOTE (knightni @ May 1, 2009 -> 11:28 AM) Nolan Ryan got it figured out after about 5 years in the league. He was an powerful thrower, but he pitched on a lot of mediocre teams which kept his win totals down. He was not the dominating #1 SP that Carlton, Seaver or Maddux was. He was a strikeout artist who had longevity. I wouldn't say that. In the years where his win totals were down, he was either a below average pitcher, he was injured in some fashion, or his innings were down for some other reason other than a couple later in his career. If you look at his statistics, in every year he did not win 15 games, he either had an ERA+ below 100 or threw fewer than 200 innings (whether with injury or demotions). You could make arguments that he should have won more games in '83 and '84, but the main year I look at is his '87 season where he led the league in ERA and only won 8 games. He got screwed there, but there aren't many other seasons where he did. '90 kind of sucked too, but he still won 13 games which isn't terrible, and the Rangers that year were an above .500 team.

ah s***f***

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 1, 2009 -> 12:41 AM) You're getting on a guy for pitching great for 27 years? Yes, there is a distinction between a pitcher and a thrower, but Ryan was both. Did you see his stuff? Yes, I've seen footage of Nolan Ryan. And I have never said he pitched great for 27 years, you said that. I said he was an above average pitcher for 27 years. And besides that, I'm not getting on him about being an above average pitcher for 27 years. Nolan Ryan has been idolized as a Greek god of throwing a ball, when there are almost countless others I would have rather had than Ryan. The fact of the matter is that there is a lore about Nolan Ryan because he could throw a baseball 120 MPH, his arm stayed attached, and it did so for 27 years. He was a damn fine pitcher, but I will never call him great. What's most incredible about Nolan Ryan is that he holds five damn near unbreakable records (WP, H/9, BB, K, and no-hitters), 3 of which are far and away winners - BB, K, and the no-nos. He was dominant when he was on, but I would honestly say that, if I could combine pitchers from past and present, that he is some crazy hybrid of Jack Morris and Kerry Wood, though he had the longevity of a Greg Maddux or Cy Young or whoever pitched a s***load of seasons.

Scott Podsednik hasn't been anything close to his 2005 self since 2005. If anybody thinks Podsednik will be anything but a placeholder is dreaming. The only thing that is generally true about Podsednik is that he's a better player than Jerry Owens.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 08:37 PM) you're suggesting that pitching is one thing, when it's more than one thing. for some it's power (Ryan), for others, it's finesse (Maddox). Some great ones combine both (Pedro). But to me, it's all pitching. Ryan threw a pretty devastating curve, by the way. If all he ever had was a fastball he never would've gotten out of the minors. and regardless, I still don't think he was that good. He was an above average pitcher for 27 years.

Bills are supposedly going to be running a no-huddle offense. If anything, they are going to be a fun team to watch.

QUOTE (False Alarm @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 03:54 PM) http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=8804 i don't think their statistical profile is very similar, and i don't remember sweeney having a longish swing, and i had the impression that danks is a much more natural CF than sweeney with quite a bit better speed. thought it was interesting info anyway. Ryan Sweeney had 32 XBHs his entire season in A-ball, and that went down to 26 when he moved up to AA (where he only hit 1 homer). Jordan Danks is already 1/3rd of the way to reaching that first total in one month. I'm not worried about his power at all.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 01:26 PM) Wow. Are you... Seriously? Yes. He had 8 years where his ERA was below the league average (ERA+ of less than 100) and only 7 where he was a very good starting pitcher (ERA+ of 120+). He was a very good starting pitcher that pitched forever, but that doesn't mean he was an absolute stud. I'd also say that Bert Blyleven was a superior pitcher to Ryan.

QUOTE (scenario @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 12:44 PM) A young Nolan Ryan? Where does THAT come from? Greinke has pinpoint control and can throw the ball anywhere he wants in the strike zone. That's why he's successful. Nolan Ryan averaged... for his career... walking 4.7 per 9 innings. He had a couple of seasons where he averaged 6BB's per 9. Ryan's claim to fame was that he could throw it by anybody... when he got it over the plate. Two completely opposite styles IMO. I actually don't think Nolan Ryan was that good of a pitcher. He was a freak of nature, he was intimidating as s***, and he has several great stories to his credit, but to me, he looks more like Jack Morris than an all time great pitcher; it's just that Ryan pitched 9 more seasons than Morris.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 12:25 PM) I would like to point out that I am fine with the Jim that we've seen thus far... but I don't see Thome putting up much better production this year than what we're seeing... .772 OPS. I would bet a case of beer he puts up an OPS of .850, give or take a few, assuming that he's healthy

QUOTE (103 mph screwball @ Apr 30, 2009 -> 11:06 AM) With all due respect to Thome and Big Frank, the next Sox DH should be capable of playing a position as well. It would give Ozzie the flexibility to rest people via the DH slot and would be injury insurance. Having that guy on the roster who can do nothing else but DH is too restricting on a 25 man roster with inter league play. If said hitter can put up an .850-.900 OPS, I could care less if is missing an arm. I have no problem with the DH not being able to field a position.

only one of Podsednik and Lillibridge should ever be in the lineup at the same time. I'd rather take my chance with Betemit hitting right handed over those two both being in the same lineup. Also, one thing this team really lacks is a good right handed bat off the bench to hit LHP. Corky has done fine so far, but he's almost certainly never going to pinch hit. I know Ozzie loves having 12 pitchers, but if you get rid of Broadway for a guy who can actually hit LHP (Frank Thomas comes to mind, but he can't do anything in the field, and having two DHs on the roster doesn't accomplish a ton), the team improves immensely.