JohnCangelosi

I wonder how Dick Allen is going to defend this one. Of course, you can just blame it on the players. But, it seems our approach has been wrong at the plate for years, not just the last 100 games.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 12:17 PM) http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...18200429AAUZSef Yes, but are we stuck with Ozzie or do you think its 100% we can dump him to the Marlins? And if so what should we expect in return? A bag of baseballs?

What are the odds we can trade Ozzie for anything (low level prospect and his contract) to the Marlins this offseason? I'm not familiar with the trading of a manager, I cannot recall it being done often in the last 20 years or so of me following baseball...

QUOTE (hawksfan61 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 09:13 AM) There is no accountability on this team, see the Rios "benching" for being one of the worst players in baseball that lasted all of 2 days. Bruney had a nice run of magic for awhile, but agreed it is time for him to go. Someone else on the farm can get a shot at being the mop-up man/punching bag for awhile. Bruney seems to be the hairy/hedgehog version of Billy Koch, a low 90's straight as an arrow fastball that isn't getting it done.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 09:08 AM) I'm not quite sure what the metaphor here actually means, but it makes me a bit uncomfortable. LOL, it should. So should watching this team night in night out.

If you think this is bad just imagine if he didn't have 2012 picked up- Ozzie would be more bit*hy than anyone of the real houswives of NY. Enough is enough. This team is the laughing stock of the league. Every day seemingly a new group of migrants are laughingly pissing on our front lawn in broad daylight while management watches through the glass window and simply just shrugs their shoulders. Time to clean house, it AIN'T WORKING!

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 4, 2011 -> 01:52 AM) We have a problem here, Ozzie Jr. Nobody ever goes racial on here. It doesn't happen. People despise Ozzie (me and a couple others love him and want a lifetime contract for him) on here, but nobody says anything like you were quoted as saying. The site mods should try their best to contact that writer or Ozzie Jr. There never was any post about go away you Mexican. That is bulls***. There have been no racist threads on here since I've been here. If there were I'd leave forever. Yes, agreed, someone needs to contact them and fix that article now. I've been on here for 4 years and have never seen any comment even CLOSE to this tolerated.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 02:14 PM) How much more can we contribute when anything and everything sucks about this organization? Your are really going to have to take a bigger responsibility and really gut out this organization. You need a new GM. The coaching staff needs to go. Maybe save Cooper. Scouting and development needs to improve. Is there a philosophy that is consistent through the whole organization? If I had to guess, they think baseball is an offensive sport. What I see is no concept of fundamentals and extremely poor plate discipline. Within the past few years I've seen players from other teams come here only to have the worst seasons of their careers. What is up with that? Only you Mr. Chairman can fix this mess. All coaches,managers, and scouts in this organization needs to be heavily reviewed. As a fan of this team, my interest has now become only casual. This is a dull and lifeless product. Pleas don't use the excuse that if more fans show the product will improve. No one has ever bought that theory. I can't imagine the American auto industry using that theory. So please fix my team. This current group isn't working. Amen. :notworthy

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 02:01 PM) I'm missing something here. Somebody blasted me for telling Mrs. Teahen she looked good instead of the way Oney described her. Then somebody said looks had nothing to do with it even though most of her post was about looks. She thanked me for the compliment in one of her ensuing posts. What am I missing here? Where did I become evil again? Kill this post if it takes the thread in a weird direction but what is goin on ? LOL Greg, it's all good. Let me say that if anyone didn't think she was attractive they certainly should just keep it to themselves. It is true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder as she said, so let's leave it at that. The compliments Soxtalk is giving her is great but I think the larger issue is clearly Mark was prodding Oney in his Tweet. I think for her to think she could convince us otherwise is laughable. I'm sorry but I'm not buying it. And yes, for the record, I feel for her to get caught up in all of this. All that said it's too bad what's happened and it's yet another failure of this organization. Could the White Sox be more embarrassing this year? Also, any truth to the rumor the soup nazi said "no runs for you" to Ozzie/Walker last night?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 3, 2011 -> 07:35 AM) http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/news/...nDepth/26116801 Ozzie is IN, maybe OUT? This is the headline MLB video/story about Guillen right now at yahoosports, at least the baseball page. Seems to me from his reaction to the first question that now he wants an extension beyond 2012. LOL, he is more likely to get a kick in the ass on the way out the door when we deal him to the Marlins in the offseason for a bag of baseballs. Good luck Ozzie, your time has run out here in Chicago. I really liked your fire and personality as a manager but your decision making, pigheadedness and family dramatics led to your demise. Thanks for 2005, now beat it.

Ozzie will "take responsibility" by blaming it on the players and never consider it could be something with the coaching staff. I am not going to go on a tangent about Walker, as I think everything that needs to be said about him has been said. But to not tinker with the personnel or the coaching staff during this awful offensive season tells it all. Our entire management team from top to bottom is absolutely clueless or quite simply can give two sh*ts. It's probably somewhere in between is my guess.

First if this really was Lauren, I think all of us at Sox Talk wish you and Mark the best and we hope Mark can revive his career in Toronto. I cannot imagine the pain of being a woman and insulted publicly on your looks- that cannot be easy. Secondly, to say that Mark's tweet WAS NOT about Oney is a bit insulting to our intelligence. It was. 2+2 = 4. I realize it is your job to defend your husband in this matter and stand by him, which is what you should do of course, but I think the majority of us with half a brain can connect the dots. Personally I think Oney is an idiot and I've grown tired of the Ozzie regime in Chicago. I found Mark's tweet to be funny albeit a bit uncalled for and a cheap shot. Nevertheless, I don't think any of us are going to run and protect the Guillens or Oney on this board. Their actions speak for themselves. As long as Mark keeps his mouth shut from this point forward I can't see how he would ever be considered the "bad guy" in this entire situation. My advice is for him to keep quiet and let the Guillen's bury themselves on their way out the door in Chicago.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 03:49 PM) If Ozzie gives that order, whomever the Sox pitcher is should lob a lollipop at Teahen. When asked about it after the game he should say, "I had to follow my manager's orders, but my heart wasn't in it." I was thinking that he'd call one of the September call ups at that point and have them drill Teahen. Someone who wouldn't dare challenge the boss. Just a thought, would be interesting if the situation presented itself and Ozzie knew he was on his way out the door.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 11:54 AM) Found it! Here's his original post: I don't mind Dunn being the DH but I can't believe how much the Sox overpaid for him. s***. When you consider that the Sox could get a much better hitter like Vlad Guerrero on a two or three year deal at $ 6-7 mil per or even Thome on a 1 year deal for $ 4-5 mil. and Thome's better at 41 than Dunn is at 31. There's just no way that Dunn as a DH and not even close to being one of the best hitters in baseball or even a valuable player should command $ 14 mil. per year. Pujols will get $ 25 mil. per and if he was only a DH he would get much less and he's three times the hitter. It's just a huge overpayment. And, now how do the Sox convince Konerko to take less money than Dunn when he is clearly a far better baseball player. It's pretty sad to flip through that thread about the Dunn trade--how excited people were about it, and what it turned out to be. I recall a quote along the lines of "mark my words, this will be the biggest bust in White Sox history" type of thing. I could be wrong, but I remember a statement along those lines.

IIRC we play the Jays at home the last series of the year, which are surely to be meaningless games. If Teahen sniffs the field somehow don't be surprised if Ozzie calls to drill him as his parting gift to Teahen and this organization on his way out the door. There is my "bold" prediction for the rest of the year.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 09:01 AM) WHITESOXRANDY! I don't know if it was a case of him just throwing s*** at the wall...but he looks like a genius so far. He wanted no part of Dunn from the moment we signed him. Thanks. Yes, indeed, he looks like a genius. I'd say everyone on this board loved the move, and based on stats, why wouldn't you?

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Aug 2, 2011 -> 07:27 AM) As he should be. In fact... IMO he hasn't bragged enough on this board. Now the curiosity is driving me nuts. Who was it?

Fathom called it best regarding this team saying it was "fools gold" after our winning play after the break. I think the worst case scenario is playing out right now in front of our eyes...I am counting the days until we see regime change for the Chicago White Sox.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 1, 2011 -> 10:03 AM) He has been back plenty to brag. I don't know how you missed it honestly. Ok, I missed it. Can you tell me who?

Who was the soxtalk poster who predicted that the Adam Dunn signing would be the worst move KW has ever made? And he made it clear on this board in April and I think most people thought he was nuts. How true this is playing out right now. He's seemed to completely lose it and God only knows if he'll get it back. He's not getting any younger. And regarding his swing, he's always had a long swing, a lot of K's and a lot of HR's. His problem this year seems WAY beyond his swing to me, although I know it's not getting any quicker as he gets older, but remember he's only 31

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Aug 1, 2011 -> 09:28 AM) Do this, Jake. If he can go 5 IP with 0 ER I'd be more than happy. Then we turn it over to the 'pen. Prediction: Ozzie marches him out there after he's clearly done and his final line is 6IP & 5ER

QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 1, 2011 -> 01:52 AM) Now that's where you draw the line. What a disgusting human being - he's lucky that my kid wasn't there. It could have got real ugly. Agreed. Alex Rios is a horrible baseball player and probably a horrible human being, at least that's what you get the feeling of after watching that video.

QUOTE (Soxnews @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 03:41 PM) In the past few weeks the White Sox have come close to having an over 500 record. After a few wins in a row the team always seems to get back to 500, but then loses one or two putting them a couple games under again. Wil they be able to reach have a winning record after playing the Yankee's? Follow me and the white sox at www.whitesoxnews.blogspot.com This continual self promotion is not going to make you any friends on this board, FYI

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 03:43 PM) With the Yankees and Twins coming up...feels like it's about time for that mid-summer losing skid. Well it is August tomorrow right? Just about time...

QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jul 31, 2011 -> 03:37 PM) So glad Rios gets to make the last out Is it poetic justice or what? Does it officially end the season as well? Seems a lot of us had hopes of retooling at the deadline with the talent we have.