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Does he know Oscar Colas or Hector Gomez?

Let’s first depress his value by 25% so that we have to include Vaughn too. Or Robert, Montgomery, Colas and Vera.

And Gausman, the other candidate for first in fWAR…just a bit more expensive. Were the Sox ever connected to him, even like, once?

Much more athletic, plus defender, more pop and playoff experience.

Bard just signed an extension…fwiw. Rockies seemingly the most easily appeased fans in baseball. Consistently top 7-10 in attendance every year without playoff expectations.

Nobody cares about their rankings as much as they did 10-20 years ago. But fine, they won't trade a first rounder to replace another first rounder by the same team. Bringing Gio Gonzalez back five years too late after trading him twice was bad enough.

Well, making Tatis Jr. cry for 2-3 days straight after his trade and then throw out all his Sox gear certainly motivated him into becoming a $340 million player lol...so maybe Hahn should take a GM seminar on how to motivate his OWN players.

Well the other reading of that is everyone on the White Sox other than Abreu with a guaranteed contract doesn't put in the off season work, either. Or they bulk up the wrong parts of their bodies...not concentrating on the legs enough. Rodon has already produced more than enough fWAR in just four months to make that deal a massive win for SF. Then they will get an even bigger payout trading him...as they aren't forced to desperately chase the postseason like the White Sox are right now.

Let's see the price for Montas first. Castillo is already off the table. Syndergaard isn't throwing much harder than Giolito last season. And Colson Montgomery is not a Top 50 guy yet, he's still in that 85-100 range. Colas isn't there yet, either. (Or well behind Avi Garcia's positioning in that Tigers' trade to the Sox, and lacking big league success as well. Then again, he didn't sleep with anyone's wife and basically force a trade to maintain clubhouse peace.)

If they trade for him and give him Giolito's extension would be perfectly fine with that. But that requires Montgomery Colas Vera...at least one if not two.

Still two less than Judge since the ASB for those three combined (just Brown v. Sox)... Sox are surely in there with plans for Correa, Judge and Trea Turner. Not that Correa has exactly earned his $35 million or whatever.

It would be interesting to see "billable hours" for Sox related business the last 72 hours on the mobile phone accounts of Hahn KW Haber and especially JR...

Or Lilian...

White Sox refusing to take back Madrigal in package holding things up lol.

Looks like Rodon is gone based upon the postgame reactions. The White Sox will add a bunch of bargain/second tier names but that's what got them in trouble this offseason. Plus the bargain prices didn't exactly turn out to be bargains. Only Cueto, Harrison and Graveman have been solid...with Cueto the only clear winning move.

immediately cancelled his vacation plans with Ashley last November after the QO was declined and immediately set to work on proving his worth to the rest of MLB. Built a pitching net/bounceback setup in his backyard that week and started throwing every day on his own. Work ethic. No number to quantify or measure it. Seems we keep inspiring players to perform better once they leave. Luis Gonzalez, Mazara and Yermin to name a few. Interestingly, his work ethic, weight and seeming unwillingness to pitch with pain and injuries were some of the concerns expressed about him. Meanwhile we are stuck with Lynn, Grandal, Kelly, Pollock, Moncada, Jimenez...and even Abreu wasn't sure he wanted to play much longer after this season.

Rodon is toast, lol. Looks like he is desperately pitching to get traded to a contender other than the Sox in the next two days.

Showing him off for a trade? Not much time left for that. Obviously Rodriguez injury looks pretty fortuitous for Jared. They have been playing musical chairs with their lineup but have solid defense, enough pitching and that amazing one run luck this year as well as last. Led MLB last year and second at 24-13 this year to the Astros at 18-9.

Or he ends up with the Twins or Guardians instead since both teams have the necessary prospect capital to pull it off. And yeah, the Braves were still under .500 at this point last year. We won’t hear that about one quadrillion times, will we?

Don't think the Nats could take Kelenic back as top player for Soto...would have to be 2/3 guy, depending on quality of the other two. But then Seattle might be without Julio Rodriguez now for awhile. White Sox Phillies Blue Jays Padres Cards all desperately battling for postseason this year. Not sure exactly how to describe the Guardians and Twins' sense of urgency. Baltimore as well.

Thats the base running you expect from the Sox.

Trying to sell out for more power and overswinging?

Two excellent defensive plays prevented really game breaking inning there.

But can't afford no offense from that spot either.

Andrus has always been a Top 3 defender.