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Must be bWAR. The point with players in their thirties isn’t the back of their baseball card anymore, but what can they produce going forward. Is he going to be 2-3x more productive than Cesar or Leury in 2022 when you compare their respective sticker prices?

Grandal will get roughly half the at-bats there…or Sheets, because LH. Making Vaughn a weakside platoon DH at this stage in his career is idiotic. Or you’re suggesting we will trade Sheets and be even more right-handed? Then you have all those guys like Eloy and Abreu that will need to be rested or protected at that spot…gimpy days, etc.

Sure, as long as they add Conforto or Suzuki or ANYONE who can play halfway competent defense in RF. Which basically forces a Vaughn trade for starting pitching… Yankees signed Kirby Yates, two years, $8.25 million…would have been a solid move for that Tepera slot in the bullpen.

Hahn could have admitted the mistake with Escobar…signed him, or doubled down on exercising a much cheaper option on Hermandez if they truly believed in that player turning it around. He did neither. If you could have Escobar OR Hernandez and Tepera instead of Segura coming to a completely new division and over from the NL…that would seem more prudent. Cesar and Ryan would cost nearly the exact same as Segura alone. And he balances out the RH nature of the line-up more.

Spending an unplanned $14.5 million at this spot that instead could have been part of the package for a true “over the top” addition. If we sign at least one player for over $90 million per season, then maybe we can’t as easily argue the Kimbrel and Keuchel deals blocked a much more exciting addition.

At $14 million more per season and downside approaching… If you had never heard the name Craig Kimbrel before, you would be a bit befuddled if we had added Segura to this line-up as a FA for the same exact price.

We keep asserting that 2B is so easy to fill, just like RF and DH, yet we keep throwing money at it like drunken sailors to no avail.

Why would Turner give way at SS when they can just play Lux at second?

What are Pirtates? A new Taco Bell favorite? Or your own version of Pilates? Let’s hear your own unique, individualized action plan for the offseason. And which former poster is hiding as BBaum? Come out, come out, whoever you are and tell us the name you formerly posted under and how you are so familiar with the board despite a scant total of 29 posts on this site?

How old were those players when their long term extensions ran out? How old will Baez be? 35 is not even close to late 30’s/early 40’s now, is it? It’s not going to financially hamstring the Tigers in any way, shape or form.

But those playoff numbers erased that…

Yankees. SF had a career year out of Crawford, unless they’re moving him to 2B. Yankees seem like the obvious choice, though.

But still only 35 at the end. Compare to the Cano, Miggy and Pujols deals.

Should change title to seven years instead of six. Baez 28, Conforto 29, so likely now six for for Conforto. Our seat at the party is simply 14.3% smaller than everyone else’s.

“Detroit has spent most of the past five years in a prolonged rebuilding effort but has managed to stockpile an enviable farm system that now leaves the team on the precipice of turning the corner. Young starters Casey Mize, Tarik Skubal and Matt Manning will be expected to team with Rodriguez in leading the starting staff, while 2020 No. 1 overall pick Spencer Torkelson and 2019 No. 5 overall pick Riley Greene are both viewed as top-10 leaguewide prospects and potential lineup anchors. That blossoming young core makes it easy for Detroit, a team that has previously trotted out Opening Day payrolls north of $200MM, to spend heavily in free agency this winter. Miguel Cabrera is signed through the 2023 season, but the only player on the books beyond that point is the aforementioned Rodriguez. Roster Resource’s Jason Martinez projects a $104MM payroll without Baez next season, and that’s before the likely non-tender of Matthew Boyd and his $7.3MM projected salary (courtesy of MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz). With that in mind, even if this is the last marquee move of the offseason for the Tigers — and, to be clear, there’s no indication that’s the case — the additions of Baez and Rodriguez clearly set the stage for a return to aggressive adding in Detroit. The Tigers will have one more high-end draft pick in 2022, but the goal for the team is clearly to shift into win-now mode, and the additions of both Baez and Rodriguez are notable steps in that direction. Baez has averaged a hefty 4.6 wins above replacement (per Baseball-Reference) per season over the past four years, even including that ugly 2020 campaign, and the Tigers will count on him for more of the same as a linchpin both in the lineup and on defense as they turn the page from a rebuild the fans are all too ready to leave in the rear-view mirror.” mlbtraderumors.com

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They would probably want Sheets and Burger…as they’re still likely to trade Olson. Chapman needs to build his value back first half.

One guy like Taylor or Schwarber…highly doubt we get two, and that would practically guarantee we start trading guys like Vaughn, Crochet and Sheets for 2B/SP. That’s still going to be at least $140-150 million between just those two. Also don’t see Conforto and Taylor combined, that would be closer to $160-175 million.

Thank god it isn’t Correa. Now where does he go now? Baddoo, Baez, Greene, Torkelson, Cabrera, Candelario, Schoop, Barnhart, Grossman ERod, Mize, Skubal, Manning, Alexander/Fulmer

Why would you want to cheer for one of the worst teams in baseball the next 3-4 seasons? To further punish yourself for being a White Sox fan, and basically enduring ten lost years on baseball....to another lost half decade of the Cubs? Not the most logical bandwagon switch. Maybe try USC football, or something. LSU, if you're a Kelly fan.

It has been pretty rare for young hitters to come up and dominate since Covid...but if Torkelson and Greene are as good as advertised and Correa signs (and stays healthy), they can put a scare into the White Sox. A lot depends on the continued progress of Manning and Casey Mize. That's quite a bit to go right, and they're still relying on a number of complementary pieces like Candelario, Baddoo and whoever they have catching, but you just never know. They're the kind of team who could pick up the same sort of big bopper OF/DH guys like a Hunter Renfroe/F.Reyes and all the guys the Braves brought in for the second half and suddenly have a pretty decent defense. Just depends on Correa liking Detroit and Hinch enough...AND $$$$$. The son has never opened the financial spigots like the father.

2010 and 2012 seasons (until final two weeks) were entertaining. 2014, you had Abreu added to the team and a breakout ROY/MVPish season. 2016 was nice for 33 games....and there's also the building excitement over those subsequent 3-4 years of rebuilding...to something much better than "mired in mediocrity." Now you have kind of a sense of waiting for what's next, and the organization's progress being at something of a crossroads, especially with a manager of LaRussa's age and owner at Reinsdorf's. If you're standing still this week, you're falling behind. Fortunately, most of the real contenders in the AL still have mostly been sitting it out on the sidelines, but we still have some time remaining before everything gets frozen in place.

This might be the most depressing thing I've read the entire off season, and there's frankly a LOT to choose from. But ESPECIALLY if it were to preclude addressing 2B and/or RF...his lingering presence on the payroll.

Decision-making time frame seems way too Hahn-esque.

$18 million per year seems about right, in the range of the QO but over a much longer time frame due to his age, LHedness and past results before 2021. The only question is how many of those teams who haven't yet joined the spending spree desperately need a RFer.