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They’ve tried to do this every season since 2005 ended with a WS trophy. Not working. Change the tier they’re looking at, or change the evaluators.

Severe 5.9 fWAR falloff to 3.1, just turned 32. Two years ago, was at 3.8...but also mixed in a 2.3 season (with Detroit), which has been his floor since leaving the Astros. Seems to be the exactly the kind of risky move the franchise hasn’t taken since Adam Dunn. Of course, this also keeps Abreu at 1B for at least the 2020 season, while they’re waiting on Vaughn. Probably puts them at the mid to high 70’s in wins if Kopech and Cease take major steps forward. Still need at least one more starting pitcher, another bat and one high quality right handed reliever to squint and think they’re an 81-85 win team. Would be the end of Collins, basically.

https://sports.yahoo.com/red-sox-ownership-goes-awol-223332526.html

How much do we blame on DD, how much on Ilitch's free spending ways? In reality, the Tigers were a relevant team as long as they had a motivated Verlander...the trade to Houston and especially the owner's death really killed that franchise, moreso than DD. I mean, he kept Detroit in the forefront of the AL for nearly a decade, including two World Series appearances and countless trips to the playoffs. Let's see what they get out of Franklin Perez, Jake Rogers and Daz Cameron as well.

So we're saying it wouldn't be worth another World Series trophy if we were to be in the same position as Detroit and Boston today? Because with Mize and another overall #1 pick next season, the Tigers' situation is going to improve appreciably. And, for all we know, the Cabrera contract was just as much Ilitch as DD.

Kosuke Fukudome's still available.

Guess we don't have to worry about another player going into the HoF wearing a Red Sox hat despite spending more of his career with the White Sox. DD would never come to Chicago unless they were opening up the purse strings. But at least we'd finally get a GM who wasn't completely risk-averse and wasn't just sitting on top of all the organizational depth in the outfield, but actually pursuing some creative trade avenues of acquiring additional talent for the rotation/bullpen.

He’s done far better work with the Expos, Marlins, Tigers and Red Sox than the track record of anyone in our current front office.

You’re forgetting Bogaerts.

Since Takatsu and Iguchi were our last two Japanese players, maybe you’re going to have to send the scouting videos to KW.

The quest for LH hitting knows no boundaries.

Pretty soon we can have our own Crime Scene Investigation program...

The White Sox have no clue how to go about signing lower budget guys. Historically, the overall value in terms of $/fWAR for superstars has always been better than for the next level or two. Of course, that’s only about 2-3 players every offseason, this year, Cole and Rendon. But I guess we’ll have another 38 games to watch in 2020 and see firsthand if the Twins and Indians can pull off the trick of competing with limited/mid or small market budgets. It took internal guys like Kepler and Polanco stepping it up to really turn the Twins around. We have six positions theoretically covered, so simply need 1.5-2.0ish contributions from RF, DH and catcher. The pitching staff is the much bigger question mark.

Fine, then be the Twins in 2019. The problem with that is coming up short in the playoffs and who’s capable of actually picking 2nd/3rd Tier free agents like its 2004-2005 all over again?

Colome was a trade...

2.4 fWAR with a -15.1 on defense

B-/C+ because of the lack of progress in the minors beyond the obvious top guys. If Collins is actually for real, it COULD become a B. That said, we still have major questions about every aspect of pitching beyond Giolito and still don’t have a very solid RH bullpen option other than Colome, who will be gone after next year. Everything rotation-wise hinges on Kopech and Cease. And Herrera is the Amazon rain forest. As for position players, Anderson’s defense this year is partially negating his nice offensive breakthrough in what projected as another 20/20 season. Same thing with Jimenez. Unless we go back to GregStats, he will struggle by ANY type of WAR measure. And how much of McCann’s offense is sustainable? The clock is ticking. The scary part is the Sox have consistently failed at finding even replacement level hitting out of RF and DH for seemingly a half decade or longer. That’s supposed to be the easy part. Up the middle of the diamond and 3B are the premium positions, which should be covered for the first time with the delayed arrivals of Madrigal and Robert.

https://www.mlb.com/news/mike-shirley-named-white-sox-amateur-scouting-director https://sportsmockery.com/2019/09/the-white-sox-have-a-new-director-of-amateur-scouting/ “Mike Shirley, in addition to being a White Sox crosschecker, has been a personal hitting instructor for kids (11-17 year olds) in the Indianapolis area. He knows his hitting. Let's see if that influences his future picks for the White Sox.” joshnelson You won’t find much better job security than working for the White Sox. Shirley’s been with the organization for 20 years. Here’s Hahn on the promotion of Shirley. “We are incredibly pleased to be able to promote Mike as the new director of amateur scouting. Mike has spent two decades in our organization, serving in just about every capacity within the scouting department. He is a very well-regarded and versatile scout with a substantial evaluation track record and a facility with objective analysis.”

Valentin was the best baserunner in recent Sox history for someone lacking blazing speed...very instinctual, like Kris Bryant.

Jose Valentin, who learned elsewhere.

NO NO NO. He finishes hot and then he ends up being penciled into the 2020 roster again.

In the end, you have to get two stud players out of those deals instead of merely saving on payroll. We all knew how volatile the ceilings and floors were with Kopech. Lopez is likewise proving to be an enigma, and then there's the debate about the back-end of the Sale deal being way too weak (should have held out for a better 3rd player instead of taking two wild cards back.) Someone like a Chavis who at least had the ability to hit.

Felt like Belle had most of his big numbers in garbage time that one prolific season he put up for the Sox... Abreu is what he is at this point. A decent value for $8-12 million, but a waste of resources at anything over $14-15 million.

The worst part is they thought Palka (defensively) or Jay were legitimate answers...or Cordell/Engel/Tilson. Just more bad talent evaluation.

We couldn't have offered him that amount...but he's definitely contributed positively to their wild card chase when healthy. With Hahn/KW basically admitting they don't have enough money to keep all their guys internally (like Moncada or Giolito) and spend huge in FA, it would have been shocking had they shelled out $40-50 million for a 3-4 year extension...especially with 4.5 prospects (if you still include Basabe) stacked up at that position in Adolfo, Walker, Rutherford and Gonzalez.